We Need to Inform Our Hunting Buddies!

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Can someone point me in the direction of a caliber that's effective on deer, but not past 100 meters, and is less powerful than .223 (since that's too powerful). . . anyone? ::crickets::

I, too, find it extremely hard to believe that the Brady Bunch brass knows about this moron. Even if they've authorized the guy to run a blog in their name, they're not this stupid; the guy can't even maintain the same point for more than a couple sentences. There's gotta be something screwy going on here :scrutiny:

However, I welcome them to continue with this campaign, as it's nothing but good for us.
 
oh wow...

:rolleyes:

I know Oleg has already made some "hunters, you aren't untouchable" graphics, but this just has so much ammo to use against the Bradys we have to take advantage of it. Just slap some quotes from this over pictures of hunting rifles and your good to go.
 
Now, now. I'd imagine that if you position a Barrett just right on the tracks you could probably do it.
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Alongside the track, more like, so as to shoot chunks out of the wheels. That might remove enough of the flange on a wheel that it wouldn't stay on the rail properly, but it could also end up with a flat side that just slides along the head of the rail. Then there are at least seven other wheels on the car, with their flanges happily inside the gauge.
I'll go out on a limb, and say "possible, but not probable." (But I am not a carknocker, nor do I portay one on TV.)

Then again, with these undetectable plastic Saturday Night Special machine guns, somebody could shoot off all eight wheels from one side of the car!
Oops, getting sarcastic again, ain't I? :evil:
 
Alongside the track, more like, so as to shoot chunks out of the wheels.
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-sigh-

I meant the act of the train hitting the weapon itself might do the job. It was a joke about how big and heavy they are. Of course, it's not so funny if you have to explain it.
 
Dang what kind of bullets do I have to load up my .50bmg with to de-rail train cars???? ---garrett1955
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Those would be the nuke tipped ones. They're expensive but worth it. :)


Respectfully,

jkelly
 
Durruti, I understood what you were getting at.

Guys, if you have a myspace account, don't leave any comments. I see that there are five comments now. I'm afraid that if they notice how stupid it is they might take it down. If they take it down no one will believe us.
 
I think the expansion of the Shall-Issue CCW movement will do far more for the A2 cause than just about anything else -- for one thing, a lot of urban folks will get involved in shooting than other aspects of the hobby. Exposure to other CCW-ers will lead them into recognizing that the Second Amendment involves far more than self-defense.

The other thing I've stumped for is getting the small agrarian family to recognize the same thing. My experience has been that far too many think that "Gun Control" is an urban issue and doesn't affect them. What the heck, they can shoot off their back porches all day long if they want to.

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HAHAHAHAHAHA:

100 X "Evil Eye" Sniper Scope!

Sinister Bipod of Death!

The Rifle Sling of Doom!

Choose between the "Black Plague" Polymer Stock or the Wooden stock with "Extremely Naughty" varnish!
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Love it!


One thing I like doing is asking them which rifle looks more dangerous, my AR or my single shot 45-70 Encore. Obviosly the black rifle looks more dangerous, then I show them the rounds they fire and the expression on their face at the size of the 45-70 is priceless.
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Love it!

And too many more HAHAHAHAHAs to quote.

Loved the scope picture.
 
They're creating another class of rifles....sniper assault rifles. This is your typical hunting rifle, if the brady bunch and the media can get all of the sheep to buy into this crap, they'll try to ban them. This guy really show's his ignorance, spewing all of the canned media talking points, ignorant talking points from ignorant people. The fact is ALL CENTERFIRE RIFLE CALIBERS WILL PENETRATE A BULLET PROOF VEST, THEY WERE NOT DESIGNED TO STOP RIFLE ROUNDS. His assertions about the 50 cal are way overblown as well. What an idiot.
 
They didn't wait long until they started picking up on the Zumbo jumble. It's pretty low that they've turned to doing this, but here it be:

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?f...&MyToken=0cfb5419-ba4f-4fc4-8048-ff9d638d2ac3

Sunday, February 18, 2007


Even Remington's top gun writer agrees on Assault Weapons

With important writers such as this on our side, it is clear that we have a cultural imperative to remove dangerous terrorist rifles from our streets, and our woods.

Jim Zumbo is a writer for the prestigious Outdoor Life magazine and represents the views of America's true sportsmen. He is also sponsored by Remington.

http://outdoorlife.blogs.com/zumbo/2007/02/assault_rifles_.html
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That should read "he WAS sponsored by Remington" I guess the Bradyites didn't catch that the entire hoopla was because it upset so many firearm owners.

The comments are funny. Even on myspace, tons of pro-2A people came to the rescue, even the illiterate 13 year old kids that can barely type. Brady comments basically consisted of personal attacks, such as
That is disturbing. Her profile is listed as sixteen and you look like a child molester. Sorry, our blog comments are not a singles pick-up area.
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Yes, great rebuttal. You singlehandedly defeated all Pro-2A arguments with that zinger.
 
The hunters have been notified.
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Yes, yes we have. Oh.. where oh where to begin with THIS blog. I found the AR one sad, but now they are just assuming all hunters are Bubba's. So, let us begin, shall we?

along with the powerful gun lobby that wants your children and your law enforcement officers to be at risk from these weapons of mass destruction.
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Now, short of afore-mentioned nuke tipped .30-06 rounds, how does a 5 rd mag bolt action suddenly become a "weapon of mass destruction"? :scrutiny:
Has anyone sent this... person.. a dictionary link? Other day it was "assault weapons" which apparantly has the new defination of AR's only. He/she failed to mention little things like golf clubs, ball bats, kitchen knives, wive's rolling pins, etc.

the 30.30 caliber, was responsible for penetrating three officers' armor ...also capable of puncturing light-armored vehicles, ballistic or armored glass, armored limousines
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I grew up with a 30-30, nice round to a point, still own one but just how silly is this? Perhaps the general public is not aware that the round is quite old and the "light-armored vehicles" he/she refers to were covered wagons vs the open carriage type? Or the armored glass was installed on the ole town bank.. ya'll know, the ones with steel bars mounted outside. Apparantly, some group or another needs to start handing out the real facts instead of this.. dribble.

even a 600-pound safe with 600 pounds of safe armor plating
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So, when empty, your 600lb safe weighs in at 600lbs? Thank you for clearing that up, now I don't have to remove everything from mine to get a comparison weight. If it sounds moronic in your head DO NOT go ahead and type it hoping it'll read better, it won't.

Sniper Rifles can be equipped with precision optics above even what the Military uses
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So can a pellet rifle, which I've heard once this is done it should now be considered a sniper rifle.:rolleyes: To correct you, "can" should be replaced by "should". Probably just a typo on the OP's side. Sweet, we have stuff that even the U.S. Gov't doesn't have access to! Just the other day I was commenting on how a Nikon scope was marked- Restricted:For Civilian Use Only!

enabling them to engage targets at distances of well over one hundred meters.
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Good Lord, I hope so, or else you should REALLY consider an upgrade of equipment.

Is there a pressing need to be able to kill with accuracy at that distance?
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Why, yes.. yes there is. Deer are some mighty sharp-eyed creatures, amongst others, of course.

Oh, and least we forget my personal favorite of the evening:

Designed for distance shooting, they are useless for the ranges at which game animals are normally shot, and when used on sporting sized game at range they often just wound the animal, inhumanely forcing it to die slowly while the would-be hunter tracks it to finish it off.
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This little jem of intelligence just goes so remarkably far towards de-bunking his own statements. Can't have a weapon that precision kills humans but remarkablely only wounds deer and coyotes. :banghead: And we all know, a prairie dog weighs much more than a frieght car hence the .50BMG need.

Why don't these people just go play with something else more useful? Like freeing up space on various deathrows' to show other CRIMINALS that it won't be tolerated any longer? I have a sinking feeling these are the same ones screaming how MY firearms need to go so they can be safe yet are outside prisons screaming for the stay of execution/pardon of some axe-murderer. :fire:

I am going to print that blog out and attach a nice and hopefully sensible reply. Then I am going to hand those out to everyone I know, maybe take a short trip to the local college also. I think it is time I do more than merely send in various cash amounts to different groups. If anyone has any links to refuting evidence of his comments, feel free to PM them to me so I can incorporate them into my handout.
 
Large caliber Sniper Rifles such as the .50 Browning Machine Gun can derail freight cars, shoot down aircraft and helicopters, damage vital ground equipment such as power substations
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Derail a train? HAHAHAHA!

I cant beleive these guys want to be taken seriously! C'mon, a sling has no place in hunting and therefor should be banned? what does a friggin sling even have to do with anything?

Nice add by the way, that made me laugh.
 
I'll keep saying it, Politics is about perception by the uninformed. While we make jokes about the train and the .50, some voter in the city who has no idea about firearms, just formed his stance on the issue.:(
 
Actually, I believe this to be legit, and possibly approved by the Brady Campaign brass. They are so technically clueless, they may well not understand the implications of this essay. After all, these are people who apparently believe that a pistol grip, when affixed to a rifle, facilitates firing from the hip, and that Teflon helps to penetrate Kevlar.

In other words, perhaps even the higher-ups think that Grandpa's deer rifle and a modern police/military sniper rifle are in some way fundamentally different from one another in terms of general range, accuracy, and power, rather than in a merely cosmetic fashion. They probably don't understand that banning military calibers leaves numerous calibers, many more powerful than .308 or .30-06, unaffected. I expect they don't realize that there are no prohibitions against AP centerfire rifle ammo because essentially any centerfire rifle ammo, including many calibers over a century old, is de facto armor-piercing, at least in terms of body armor.

There are enough extreme absurdities in this blog entry that even the most blinkered and tendentious antigun extremist might be a little skeptical about it, but who knows? The Brady Campaign is not known for its technical sophistication and is no stranger to alarmist sensationalism.
 
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I meant the act of the train hitting the weapon itself might do the job. It was a joke about how big and heavy they are. Of course, it's not so funny if you have to explain it.
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Yeah, sorry I was slow on the uptake there. (Psst . . . Hey, I was trying to outsmart the bad guys. See, once the Brady Bunch has banned all the ammo and other stuff that "has no sporting purpose and is nothing but the weapon of choice for drug dealers blah blah blah," then the gangsters will have no choice but to lay their .75 cal. Sniper Machine Gun on the track in order to derail a train and rob it. And that might work! :D )

The best part about the Brady bunchs myspace site is under the part where it asks about kids it says...
I DON'T WANT KIDS.
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That's a relief. Clueless people shouldn't reproduce, anyway. And I think the blogger's picture is next to "clueless" in the dictionary.
 
The "sniper rifle" can defeat body armor, bullet proof glass and up armored Humvees, but it only wounds animals?

"They are too big and heavy to take to the field. Designed for distance shooting, they are useless for the ranges at which game animals are normally shot, and when used on sporting sized game at range they often just wound the animal, inhumanely forcing it to die slowly while the would-be hunter tracks it to finish it off. "

Maybe our soldiers and Marines need to go into combat with a deer draped over their bodies in order to defeat the dreaded sniper rifle.
 
The "sniper rifle" can defeat body armor, bullet proof glass and up armored Humvees, but it only wounds animals?

"They are too big and heavy to take to the field. Designed for distance shooting, they are useless for the ranges at which game animals are normally shot, and when used on sporting sized game at range they often just wound the animal, inhumanely forcing it to die slowly while the would-be hunter tracks it to finish it off. "

Maybe our soldiers and Marines need to go into combat with a deer draped over their bodies in order to defeat the dreaded sniper rifle.
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I got a better idea. We could give all our troops bipods and slings, then no more guns are needed.
 
Am I the only one that think's it's satire? Clearly it's too absurd to be real, "50 BMG derailing freight trains" come on...
 
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