What do you think is the worst guntrope in media?
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The whole racking/cocking of a gun on the draw is annoying.
What's worse are the myriad of incorrect ways actors hold the gun. I typically see a gap between the web of the hand and the tang of most pistols. "Teacupping" is very common.
I must give kudos to Fringe. The main character holds her Glock 27 correctly and keeps her finger off the trigger. If only she'd use her flashlight properly...
What's worse are the myriad of incorrect ways actors hold the gun. I typically see a gap between the web of the hand and the tang of most pistols. "Teacupping" is very common.
I must give kudos to Fringe. The main character holds her Glock 27 correctly and keeps her finger off the trigger. If only she'd use her flashlight properly...
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In one of the episodes of Sons of Guns, one of the gunsmiths is asked to stand as an extra in a movie. He was part of a "squad" of 6 or so "soldiers" and of all of them, he was the only one to be using the sling on his weapon correctly.
I found it hilarious.
I found it hilarious.
J-Bar
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How about the number of bullet hits that an actor can take and still continue fighting?
In the finale of "The Last Samurai" Tom Cruise and his samurai buddy charged into a battery of .45-70 Gatling guns, were hit several times each, and continued to ride and fight.
One hit from a .45-70 slug would probably convince just about anyone to retire from the fight, if he were still alive to consider anything at all.
In the finale of "The Last Samurai" Tom Cruise and his samurai buddy charged into a battery of .45-70 Gatling guns, were hit several times each, and continued to ride and fight.
One hit from a .45-70 slug would probably convince just about anyone to retire from the fight, if he were still alive to consider anything at all.
Caliper_Mi
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Only the hero or the arch-villan can take multiple hits. Lesser bad guys go down with just one hit to the pinky...
There are however examples of real-life war heroes charging machine gun nests, taking multiple hits, and both taking out the MG crew and surviving to tell about it. Not common, but human determination is an amazing thing at times.
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One of the worst I saw was a bunch of cops & bad guys shooting at each other and one of the cop's 45 ACP went empty (slide locked back) yet she continued to point it at the bad guys with a "bang" .
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Hahaha...this thread is hilarious.
I hate the fake muzzle flash that is edited into a gunfight/shooting scene. I watched a few episodes of Sons of Anarchy on Netflix. I completely lost interest after I saw this little anemic "edited in" muzzle flash that was reminiscent of the black and white war movies. I don't understand why they feel the need to edit in some hokey looking fireball.
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I hate the fake muzzle flash that is edited into a gunfight/shooting scene. I watched a few episodes of Sons of Anarchy on Netflix. I completely lost interest after I saw this little anemic "edited in" muzzle flash that was reminiscent of the black and white war movies. I don't understand why they feel the need to edit in some hokey looking fireball.
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Good point! Remember the nonsense about holding guns "gangster style"? Or holding the gun pointed up next to one's face!
Date Night lampooned that perfectly: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDYC7d4FuCM&desktop_uri=/watch?v=ZDYC7d4FuCM
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gandog56
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I always hate it in TV and movies when somebody gets shot and just flies off his feet like he was hit by a truck. According to Newton, every action has an equal but opposite reaction. If it knocks the shootee down, it would knock the shooter down when he fired it, too!
Now a head snapping back or he drops straight down...OK.
Now a head snapping back or he drops straight down...OK.
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If you will watch Mel Gibson in all of the Lethal Weapon movies, he blinks his eyes every time he shoots a round from his pistol. I see it in almost all the the action movies. On CSI Miami the short blond chick who is supposed to be a firearms expert, watch her, she blinks every time she shoots a firearm. You woluld think that a technical advisor would tell them to knock it off, it makes them look like a complete shooting novice, not the supposed expert marksman they portray.
Quick note on guns that shoot a lot before reloads. You are right that sometimes it is ridiculous, but sometimes the filmmaker is trying to show what is happening in two separate locations or from two separate angles at once.
Take a cowboy on main street who pulls a gun and fires 3 rounds at the good guy, then the scene cuts to inside the saloon where you hear 3 gunshots and people dive for cover. I've been watching movies like that where someone will claim 'his gun is empty now! he shot 6 times!' and then roll their eyes when the camera goes back to the cowboy on the street who shoots at least a few more shots.
Now, I also think realistic ammo consumption and the need to reload could add a lot of tension in scenes if it was done more often. I think of the movie No Country for Old Men. The main character (Llewellyn) buys a shotgun and some shells then cuts the barrel down in his hotel room. I'd have had him buy a shotgun and have some chatter with the guy about shells. Something along the lines of
"I'll pick up some buckshot too"
"how many boxes you want?"
"five in a box right?"
"yes sir"
"then I'll take two boxes"
When he cuts the gun down he loads up 5 shells and puts the other box in his pocket.
Now, when the gunfight scene happens, one where there is not a ton of shooting, the audience (or at least the smart members) know he's got a handful of shots, and you can set up a scene where the gun goes click at a bad moment. Heck you can even have him drop the box and the shells roll now he has to grab for em etc etc.
You wouldn't want EVERY gunfight to have the hero end up reloading to increase dramatic tension, but I'd like to see it a lot more. Plus just reloading in general.
I'd also love to see a shootout where the whoever shoots 6 times with a revolver then some smug bad-guy steps out and notes the shooter shot 6 and is empty. Empty gunner then pulls a snub out of his pocket and shoots the guy dead. Or even better shoot one more time then as the guy is dying remark 'most revolvers nowadays have 7 shots'
Take a cowboy on main street who pulls a gun and fires 3 rounds at the good guy, then the scene cuts to inside the saloon where you hear 3 gunshots and people dive for cover. I've been watching movies like that where someone will claim 'his gun is empty now! he shot 6 times!' and then roll their eyes when the camera goes back to the cowboy on the street who shoots at least a few more shots.
Now, I also think realistic ammo consumption and the need to reload could add a lot of tension in scenes if it was done more often. I think of the movie No Country for Old Men. The main character (Llewellyn) buys a shotgun and some shells then cuts the barrel down in his hotel room. I'd have had him buy a shotgun and have some chatter with the guy about shells. Something along the lines of
"I'll pick up some buckshot too"
"how many boxes you want?"
"five in a box right?"
"yes sir"
"then I'll take two boxes"
When he cuts the gun down he loads up 5 shells and puts the other box in his pocket.
Now, when the gunfight scene happens, one where there is not a ton of shooting, the audience (or at least the smart members) know he's got a handful of shots, and you can set up a scene where the gun goes click at a bad moment. Heck you can even have him drop the box and the shells roll now he has to grab for em etc etc.
You wouldn't want EVERY gunfight to have the hero end up reloading to increase dramatic tension, but I'd like to see it a lot more. Plus just reloading in general.
I'd also love to see a shootout where the whoever shoots 6 times with a revolver then some smug bad-guy steps out and notes the shooter shot 6 and is empty. Empty gunner then pulls a snub out of his pocket and shoots the guy dead. Or even better shoot one more time then as the guy is dying remark 'most revolvers nowadays have 7 shots'
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#1 Quick and the Dead (among others) you shoot someone and you can literally SEE THROUGH the bullet hole.
#2 insert the sound of a shotgun pumping whenever anyone is messing with guns, even if it is just opening up a trunk to reveal handguns and all the bad guys start grabbing one, etc.
#3 gunshots literally picking people off their feet and sending them flying
#1 Quick and the Dead (among others) you shoot someone and you can literally SEE THROUGH the bullet hole.
#2 insert the sound of a shotgun pumping whenever anyone is messing with guns, even if it is just opening up a trunk to reveal handguns and all the bad guys start grabbing one, etc.
#3 gunshots literally picking people off their feet and sending them flying
Jcinnb
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c'mon guys....How about sounds in space? The worst!
jakk280rem
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I stopped watching Walking Dead about two minutes into episode 1. When the main character tells his cop rookie buddy to "make sure the safety is off on that thing". That thing being a Glock 22. I think what really got me was the show was recommended to me for its excellent use and representation of firearm use.
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If it weren't for these fallacies, movies would be so boring! LOL
That is the worst one that I hate.
Everytime a shooter points a gun, you hear a "click" supposedly from the safety. Or the shooter racks the slide after drawing from his holster, meaning he was carrying with an empty chamber to begin with. And when they always have to decock a DA/SA pistol when they decide they're not going to shoot.
That is the worst one that I hate.
Everytime a shooter points a gun, you hear a "click" supposedly from the safety. Or the shooter racks the slide after drawing from his holster, meaning he was carrying with an empty chamber to begin with. And when they always have to decock a DA/SA pistol when they decide they're not going to shoot.
Resident Evil where she fired U.S. quarters out of her 12 gauge 
When any kind of AP ammo gets the name 'cop killers' and usually upon inspecting the rounds it's some fancy looking thing.
I don't mind the non stop shooting from a gun as long as they do it in different scenes instead of one long one so there's the possibility of the actor reloading in between.
When any kind of AP ammo gets the name 'cop killers' and usually upon inspecting the rounds it's some fancy looking thing.
I don't mind the non stop shooting from a gun as long as they do it in different scenes instead of one long one so there's the possibility of the actor reloading in between.
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I like how versatile of a weapon movies make the AT-4 out to be. According to the movies it can take out a Jumbo Jet at 40,000 feet, be reloaded (these are disposable weapons, one shot and it's done), then take out a tank, then a bunker.
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The quick, one handed 25 yard headshots on The Walking Dead always make me laugh.
Also, when an assassin opens up a suitcase, puts the rifle together (everything magically snaps together of course) and the scope is spot on zeroed.
This also occurs in video games. A scope will put the shot wherever the crosshairs are, no matter the yardage.
Also, when an assassin opens up a suitcase, puts the rifle together (everything magically snaps together of course) and the scope is spot on zeroed.
This also occurs in video games. A scope will put the shot wherever the crosshairs are, no matter the yardage.
Count the shots from a lever-action rifle!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NmzF9pj9Yk
I believe some of the recent Battlefield games have bullet drop; in Call of Duty, though, gravity doesn't have any effect on lead.
There is a John Cusack movie (I don't recall which one), in which he's supposed to be a highly-skilled assassin (or something).
One scene in a convenience store he's got a pistol in each hand and he jerks the gun forward every time he pulls the trigger, like he's trying to throw the bullets with extra force (the way kids do when saying "bang, bang" with toy guns).
It was really distracting and poorly done!
One scene in a convenience store he's got a pistol in each hand and he jerks the gun forward every time he pulls the trigger, like he's trying to throw the bullets with extra force (the way kids do when saying "bang, bang" with toy guns).
It was really distracting and poorly done!
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That was the first one that popped into my mind when I started reading the thread.
Also, when people step into the streets and shoot people off of roof tops a block down the street with their Colt .45 or shooting from a running horse and never missing a shot. Or some westerns where they fan the hammer and hit every time at 20-30 yds.
In the movie "Olympus Has Fallen" the main guy is making his way into the Whitehouse and is shooting with what looks like maybe a Sig and never misses, once making a head shot at 60-70 yds.
On a good note though, I was watching "Hell on Wheels" (freaking awesome BTW if you haven't seen it) and the main guy empties his Remington Army and replaces the cylinder while walking. It was great. My wife was watching with me and I explained how a lot of guys carried spare cylinders back then to keep from having to take as much time to reload. For some reason she wasn't as impressed as I was.
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