What gun for concealed carry?
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I concur with many posters who recommend a .38 revolver. Unless concealment is necessary a barrel of at least 3" is nice to have for .38 HPs, and the heavier the better. A nice paddle holster is very comfortable even with a heavier handgun.
I would recommend a SP101 with a 3" barrel loaded with .38 JHPs, except for the heavy DA trigger pull. She might be better served by a steel J-frame if the trigger is smoother. It depends on how much hand strength she has. Some Flitz and a Wolff spring set for the SP101 might get it smooth enough for her. A shrouded hammer is a good idea on a J-frame.
I can't recommend an automatic to someone not interested in guns, especially one without a magazine safety. Make sure she has the strenght to rack the slide if she wants an automatic.
You'll want to let her try several handguns and make her own decision in the end.
I would recommend a SP101 with a 3" barrel loaded with .38 JHPs, except for the heavy DA trigger pull. She might be better served by a steel J-frame if the trigger is smoother. It depends on how much hand strength she has. Some Flitz and a Wolff spring set for the SP101 might get it smooth enough for her. A shrouded hammer is a good idea on a J-frame.
I can't recommend an automatic to someone not interested in guns, especially one without a magazine safety. Make sure she has the strenght to rack the slide if she wants an automatic.
You'll want to let her try several handguns and make her own decision in the end.
Glocker
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i remember an old saying that goes " NO ONE EVER RAPED A .38 " get a smith air weight, 642 would be nice.
What do you all think of the Taurus Model 85?
Model: 85SS3
Caliber: .38 SPL +P RATED
Capacity: 5
Barrel Length: 3"
Porting: No
Action: DAO
Finish: Stainless Steel
Grips: Rubber
Weight: 21 oz
Construction: Steel
Frame: Snall
Front Sight:
Rear Sight: Fixed
Trigger Type: Smooth
Length: 7-1/2''
Width: 1.346"
Height: 4.28"
Rate of Twist: 1:16"
Grooves: 5
Safety: Transfer Bar
http://www.taurususa.com/products/product-details.cfm?model=85SS3&category=Revolver
They're having a group buy on them for $275, seems like a pretty good price.
Model: 85SS3
Caliber: .38 SPL +P RATED
Capacity: 5
Barrel Length: 3"
Porting: No
Action: DAO
Finish: Stainless Steel
Grips: Rubber
Weight: 21 oz
Construction: Steel
Frame: Snall
Front Sight:
Rear Sight: Fixed
Trigger Type: Smooth
Length: 7-1/2''
Width: 1.346"
Height: 4.28"
Rate of Twist: 1:16"
Grooves: 5
Safety: Transfer Bar
http://www.taurususa.com/products/product-details.cfm?model=85SS3&category=Revolver
They're having a group buy on them for $275, seems like a pretty good price.
Sir Aardvark
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Something like the ladysmith would work.
The Taurus model 85 would be an excellent choice,..
stay away from the .32 Tomcat and Definetly stay away from the KelTec P3AT.380...
The revolver would be the right choice..
Easy to load and shoot plus its a capable round of ammo....
With +p power that is reliable.....drf
stay away from the .32 Tomcat and Definetly stay away from the KelTec P3AT.380...
The revolver would be the right choice..
Easy to load and shoot plus its a capable round of ammo....
With +p power that is reliable.....drf
let her try a lot of different guns.
for the newbie a 3 or 4 inch barrel is much easier to manage,
If she gets her ccw and is going to carry, then look at the new purses made for carry, but then also get her to consider that at the grocery store she can not set the purse inthe cart and not pay attention to it ALL the time. My wife purse carrys, but she has gotten in the habit that the purse is ALWAYS attached to her. with the strap over her head in the cross shoulder carry. my wife can hide a Commander in her purse NP and has carried a 4" 686 in hers too.
As far as loads. what ever you do, start her out with light loads and let her shoot enough to work up from the starter loads till she decides she can not go any higher. My wife and my daughter now have no trouble with full house 44 mag loads IF they have been doing their practicing and they are only shooting a few. When we go in the woods it is not big deal for them to carry a model 29 because they know if they shoot it is going to be no more than 6 shots and only if they have the worlds biggest adrenalin rush.
My daughter thinks a 45 commander with +P 185's is fun. So just let her work her way up. Getting a 22 that works the same as the carry gun is not a bad idea to just train with. quiet and no recoil, they help train without the fear of developing a flinch.
as far as a home gun, look at the remington express youth and Junior shotguns, very good guns at a reasonable price that she can also use to break clays with to get the hang off
The NYPD found out that new shooters got something like 50 % better scores when they started on a 3 inch verses a 2 inch barrel. I can not find the link to it but i remeber reading about it many years ago, one reason the 3 inch chiefs was called the NYPD model.
for the newbie a 3 or 4 inch barrel is much easier to manage,
If she gets her ccw and is going to carry, then look at the new purses made for carry, but then also get her to consider that at the grocery store she can not set the purse inthe cart and not pay attention to it ALL the time. My wife purse carrys, but she has gotten in the habit that the purse is ALWAYS attached to her. with the strap over her head in the cross shoulder carry. my wife can hide a Commander in her purse NP and has carried a 4" 686 in hers too.
As far as loads. what ever you do, start her out with light loads and let her shoot enough to work up from the starter loads till she decides she can not go any higher. My wife and my daughter now have no trouble with full house 44 mag loads IF they have been doing their practicing and they are only shooting a few. When we go in the woods it is not big deal for them to carry a model 29 because they know if they shoot it is going to be no more than 6 shots and only if they have the worlds biggest adrenalin rush.
My daughter thinks a 45 commander with +P 185's is fun. So just let her work her way up. Getting a 22 that works the same as the carry gun is not a bad idea to just train with. quiet and no recoil, they help train without the fear of developing a flinch.
as far as a home gun, look at the remington express youth and Junior shotguns, very good guns at a reasonable price that she can also use to break clays with to get the hang off
The NYPD found out that new shooters got something like 50 % better scores when they started on a 3 inch verses a 2 inch barrel. I can not find the link to it but i remeber reading about it many years ago, one reason the 3 inch chiefs was called the NYPD model.
garyk/nm
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Alex, I have a Taurus 85 (blued, $225 new) and can't say a bad thing about them. You could do far worse. That said, one caveat: if your mom is going to CCW, that hammer spur is likely at some point to get snagged on something. I have seen that some folks "bob" the hammer to reduce snagging, with no bad effects.
Something to think about. Good luck with your decision.
Something to think about. Good luck with your decision.
Fred Fuller
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I think it's best to start with a revolver. Tiny little semiautos are for experienced shooters for the most part.
I have a couple of Taurus 85s, both stainless, and like them a lot. One of them used to be my mom's until she decided (at age 75) she'd rather have a .22LR. Now she has a S&W 317 AirLite with a set of Uncle Mike's boot grips and an excellent action job.
lpl/nc
I have a couple of Taurus 85s, both stainless, and like them a lot. One of them used to be my mom's until she decided (at age 75) she'd rather have a .22LR. Now she has a S&W 317 AirLite with a set of Uncle Mike's boot grips and an excellent action job.
lpl/nc
Dirty Bob
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Is the 85CH still available?
The 85CH (Concealed Hammer) has the hammer spur already bobbed and it's double action only. Mine stainless 85CH has been 100% reliable from the first day, almost 15 years ago! With a Barami Hip Grip, it's no problem to tuck into my waistband behind my hip, and go.
Dirty Bob
The 85CH (Concealed Hammer) has the hammer spur already bobbed and it's double action only. Mine stainless 85CH has been 100% reliable from the first day, almost 15 years ago! With a Barami Hip Grip, it's no problem to tuck into my waistband behind my hip, and go.
Dirty Bob
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