What is a good long range rifle cartridge?

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That can also take big game and is relatively inexpensive and easy to find? Larger than .30 caliber probably.

Can take game at around 500 yards with a well placed shot, and hit man size targets at ~1300

Big game is moose, elk, and mule deer.
 
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How long is long range, depends on where you live. And how inexpensive is inexpensive, depends on how rich you are. I guess my question is want do you want it to do, and how much do you want to spend.
 
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"relatively inexpensive" is going to be the rub here.

7.62x54R. I wouldn't consider any other full power rifle cartridge to truly be inexpensive.

If you plan on taking shots past 500 yards routinely (with accuracy better than "minute of man"), you're going to have to spend money on match grade ammunition or a reloading setup anyway, which would sort of render the "relatively inexpensive" requirement moot.
 
Go with a 30-06. Will take you to a thousand yards on paper and knock down anything in North America within a couple hundred yards. Not a magnum either so your not paying for all that extra powder to blow your shoulder off.
 
It is hard to beat a 300 Win mag for most applications and easy to find ammunition.

Within 300-350 yards a 338 Winchester Mag will do just about anything you ask of it...
It and the 30-06 are the two most popular cartridges here in Alaska. 338 Win Mag ammo is very easy to find.

The 338 Lapua is a great long-range round, Beyond 500 meters to 1,000 ....but it is very expensive, has a substantial recoil and a muzzle blast that knocks things over...
 
The 30-06 cartridge has stood the test of time, and is still a favorite cartridge that gives good performance with a wide range of bullet selection.

Over 100 years since its birth and you can still do it all with the 30-06 . I've used it to hunt everything from prairie dogs to bear and it has never let me down. If you find a place that sells ammo, they will have 30-06 on the shelf.
 
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The 30-06 cartridge has stood the test of time, and is still a favorite cartridge that gives good performance with a wide range of bullet selection.

Over 100 years since its birth and you can still do it all with the 30-06 . I've used it to hunt everything from prairie dogs to bear and it has never let me down. If you find a place that sells ammo, they will have 30-06 on the shelf.



can take just about any thing on earth
an m1 garand would be great, if you don't mind packing a ten pound rifle on your hunt.
shoots the 30-06 and can shoot out to 1000 yards. plus the ping is a tone that's one of a kind
you can pick one up at big 5 for $500-$800when they have them...
 
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If you want to shoot long range do what all the cool kids do. Buy a Stevens .308 or a used Remington 700 (at least 5 years old) in .308 and start building one. You will read every cartridge ever created listed here soon, but there is a reason that the .308 is the defacto choice for beginning long range shooting.
 
Another vote for the 30-06, with slow burning powders and modern heavy bullets that you can experiment with using a quality reloading set up, and proper components. You will have your long range (up to 1000) yards set up. I would want at least a 24 inch tube. This will start you off well for your intended purpose.
 
For years and years I was a walking hunter with a 26" '06. I had no problem getting sub-MOA on my 500-yard range with it, with handloads and Sierra hunting bullets. Weatherby #2 profile barrel; I've always thought of it as a medium sporter...
 
http://demigodllc.com/articles/6.5-shootout-260-6.5x47-6.5-creedmoor/
Zak's website is a wealth of knowledge and information on long range shooting. He is the man to ask on matters like this.

Seems that most of the long ranger shooters are using something in the 6mm, 6.5mm, or 260 area. Which is smaller than your .30cal requirement. For .30 and up you have .308, 30-06, 300win mag (well a whole boat load of magnums really, .338, .408, .416 and .50. How far out do you want to reach? How much time will your rifle spend on the long range course vs. hunting? I have found that trying to make one rifle fill many roles is not the greatest idea. It may be good at a few things, but it is not great at any of them.
 
Let see I use 308 for bucks up to 700 yards, if you plan to shoot paper 308 is good for 1000 yards, but it usually subsonic then, .223 I use to shoot ground hogs up to 300 yards, it all depends what is the purpose of your shooting there are many choices, the 338 LM can be used in hunting pass 1500 yards, the round is expensive and recoil is tremendous...
 
For me a long range hunting rifle is something that can effectively reach out 5-600yds. Suitable cartridges for this range include .280Rem. (my favorite), .30-06, 7mmRM (more power, bt more recoil), .300WM (good but with pretty stout recoil), and .338WM (even better, even more recoil). For me the .280Rem. is about as good as I find necessary.

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As others have said - hard to define with the info given. But with the three criteria you gave - long(lets say longish), big(bigger) game capable, and relatively inexpensive - I'd say the 308.
 
With parameters given (big game capability, relatively inexpensive, ammo easy to find) my vote goes on the 338 WM.....in particular, a Weatherby Vanguard.
 
http://demigodllc.com/articles/6.5-shootout-260-6.5x47-6.5-creedmoor/
Zak's website is a wealth of knowledge and information on long range shooting. He is the man to ask on matters like this.

Seems that most of the long ranger shooters are using something in the 6mm, 6.5mm, or 260 area. Which is smaller than your .30cal requirement. For .30 and up you have .308, 30-06, 300win mag (well a whole boat load of magnums really, .338, .408, .416 and .50. How far out do you want to reach? How much time will your rifle spend on the long range course vs. hunting? I have found that trying to make one rifle fill many roles is not the greatest idea. It may be good at a few things, but it is not great at any of them.
Yeah, 6.5mm is currently a favored long distance round (out to a bit more than 1,000 yards in fact), but all the round has to do once it reaches 1,000 yards is retain enough energy to push through a single sheet of paper. The OP mentioned hunting ... and heck if I know much about what calibers are good are retaining enough energy at such extreme ranges to kill large game. One of the .338 Magnums I suppose? .378 Weatherby Magnum even?

Yeah, as you point out, the optimum calibers for hunting paper and for hunting game at these ranges are radically different. I don't think it makes sense to get a single rifle expecting to be able to do both.
 
While we don't exactly know what your definition of 'big game' is I'll enforce what Float Pilot says.
Both the 30-06 and the 338 Winchester Mag. are prolific calibers, easily found in most corners of the land.
The 30-06 will handle most game up to and including the ever elusive Elk creature, and preform this stunt out to 500y or so, shooter able. lol

The 30 caliber Magnums offer what the 30-06 does but with more energy available, and for a longer duration, it also offers faster and flatter flight paths. The 300 Winchester Mag. is, as the 30-06 easily found in most parts of the land.

The 338 Win.Mag. as Float Pilot says, will handle what you ask of it to 400y, give or take, and again, shooter able!

The 338 Remington Ultra Mag is simply phenomenal in all aspects as are ALL the Ultra Mag cartridges, however the Ultra Mag line IS expensive to use and is not as readily available as the older magnum calibers such as the 338 Winchester Mag.

As for the pipsqueak calibers and 'big game'... not the best idea! IMHO Without offering any idealistic beliefs, the 6mm's, while extremely accurate and flat(er) shooting than the 30 and 33 calibers do not posses the punch needed for even deer at extended ranges, much less the Elk or Caribou creature.

The old 'Military' calibers, excluding the 30-06, 300 Win.Mag. and the 308, while cheap to use fall to somewhat inaccurate performance if military ammo and or firearms are utilized.

Hornady is now loading the 9.3X62mm and the 9.3X74R which would qualify for your over 30 caliber desires but are expensive to shoot.

The Weatherby calibers offer a bit more than the standard magnum calibers but again, are more expensive than what you seem to want to spend.

On a final note, there are more than a few 'short' 30 and 33 caliber cartridges out there such as the 300 and 338 Ruger Compact Magnums (RCM), the Winchester Short Magnums and finally the Remington Short Action Ultra Magnums (SAUM).

Best bet for a 33 caliber, readily available, and lesser expensive comparably, would be the old stand by 338 Wincester Magnum.
 
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The problem may lie more in the rifle than the caliber or cartridge.
There are a lot of rounds that will do the work, but I for one do not want to hump my 16+ lb F-T/R .308 through the woods, and I do not want to hunker down behind my 8 lb .30-06 and shoot all day.
 
Hornady is now loading the 9.3X62mm and the 9.3X74R which would qualify for your 33 caliber desires but are expensive to shoot.
The 9.3's are just a hair smaller than .375 (about .365cal IIRC), so you can even satisfy your .35+cal. desires. ;)

BTW, what are we calling "large game"? I considered it to be deer/elk size game, which is why I like the 7mm/.30cal. size projectiles. If we are talking about larger game a larger bullet (.338cal, .35cal., 9.3mm, .375cal., et al) wouldn't hurt. If we are talking about large DG then you need a larger bullet (despite Bells feats, I'll not take my chances with a 7mm).

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I guess you are looking for something greater then 30, then how about 35 Whelen or 350 RM they are good choices for a big dangerous game... However 338 WM or even better 338 LM can reach farther and also suitable for big game category... Since I have nothing bigger then black bear in my neck of the woods I'm happy with 308...
 
most catridges can reach 1000 yards, but whats important is gear, your not going to take my savage and the factory simmons scope and shoot past 400 yards. most important thing to get is a scope that is parralax adjustable, my handloads for my cheapo 30/06 and simmons scope at 100 yards run about.75moa 3/4 inch grp this is a 5 shot grp. but past 100 yards im fighting parralax so horribly that my grps open up to 3-5 moa
 
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