What Is It About the 10mm??

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Well, one thing that caught my eye was that the 10mm holds about 150-200fps more velocity at 100yrds than the .45acp does at the muzzle. I never intended on getting a 10mm but as of recently I came into a 2nd Gen Glock 20 and am right in love with it. 10mm Vs. .41 Mag? Hmmmm.....ill take a G20 sir
 
Well, one thing that caught my eye was that the 10mm holds about 150-200fps more velocity at 100yrds than the .45acp does at the muzzle. I never intended on getting a 10mm but as of recently I came into a 2nd Gen Glock 20 and am right in love with it. 10mm Vs. .41 Mag?

Hmmmm.....ill take a G20 sir

All these "revolver-vs-auto" debates miss the point, in my view.

What people seem to forget in this and similar "10mm v. .41mag" dust-ups is that one of the original concepts for the 10mm AUTO (in reality, a lengthen .40G&A case that moved up from a 180gn-weight, 38-40 slug in the latter to a 200gn-weight TMJ bullet in 10mm, and in velocity from 1000fps to 1200fps), was to put "magnum-level" power into an autoloading envelope.

Magazine capacity was intended to be, roughly, about midway between the 7-shot .45 1911s and the 15-rd 9mms of the day (circa early 1980s).

A 10- or 11-shot autoloader, firing real high-performance (i.e., magnum-level) 10mm ammo - along with its way faster reloading capability - has it all over any 6-shot revolver, regardless of caliber, for the purpose for which Cooper had conceived it: military use first and, later on, for law enforcement and civilian self-defense use.

That that purpose wasn't fulfilled by the Bren Ten itself isn't the fault of the cartridge.

Arguably, the Glock 20, or one of Smith's 10XX-series guns (like the 1006 or 1066), provides the better 10mm envelope to achieve the original uses for which the cartridge was created in the first place.

Old School.
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New School: G20 & DT 165gn Golden Saber HPs.
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I'll take a 10mm over a 41mag also. I've got 686's, 610's and 629's. What the hell do I need a 657 for? The 6.5" 610 makes a nice truck gun for any of my 10mm and .40 auto's that I use for CC. There are a ton of good .401 bullets out there including HP's that will hold up to 10mm velocities, especially if you're using it on hogs @ 20-50 yards. 41mag projectiles (HP's) are few, aged and far between.
 
A 10- or 11-shot autoloader, firing real high-performance (i.e., magnum-level) 10mm ammo - along with its way faster reloading capability - has it all over any 6-shot revolver, regardless of caliber, for the purpose for which Cooper had conceived it: military use first and, later on, for law enforcement and civilian self-defense use.
...and that really is the legacy of the 10mm
 
It's like any other product that people go crazy over. It's fun to exaggerate it

To me, it's a hopped up caliber that doesn't do anything for me that other guns in my collection can't already do. Aside from a cool factor, I don't need/want one
 
i just bought a glock 29 the other day. what blast to shoot! only a couple bucks more than .45acp in my area (i don't reload). real fun to shoot
Looks like the blast effects of a 45 to me.
the .45 really shines out of a 5" barrel IMO, Its a devistating round if you can get it up to speed.

If you look at sub-compact big boomers i.e. Glock 29 vs G30
the 10mm really pulls ahead.
 
The 10mm intrigues me but, alas, I'm not enchanted by any of the easily available guns. Glocks don't fit me, so the Glock is out. I've heard too many EAA Witness horror stories to feel confident that I'd get one of the good ones straight out of the box AND I understand that they aren't rated to handle the hotter 10mm ammo any more. A 1911 would be no more than okay and that is a lot money to spend for just okay.
 
i purchased the glock 29 SF small frame or grip. also got the Lone wolf 40 s&w conversion barrel . and the LW 10 MM barrel . I only shoot lead. have not used the orginal barrel. . tempted to sell my 357 revolvers.
 
"One shot, one planet" it is not. It does seem to get a little trumped up at times. It's a little more oddball/special (however you view it) than the usual 9/40/45 that you see at the range. It does put magnum power in an auto-loading pistol without being as rare as a 44 automag or 475 Wildey, and it costs less to shoot than 50AE. It's really easy to compare it to a 41 mag since the 10mm is .401 and the 41 mag is .410, but they are not equivalent. Is there some overlap - yes. But pistol vs. revolver argument aside, the tale of the tape is powder capacity. If you compare reloading manuals instead of max psi ammo, it's pretty obvious.
 
I like the Glock 20 quite a bit, it just shoots real well for me, the wide frame soaks up the recoil, it's the most accurate Glock I've shot, or I shoot it more accurately than the others I should say. For the handloader it's like a magnum revolver, power level is whatever you want it to be, mild to wild.
I just picked up my second G-20 and a nearly identical G-21, both older gen 2's. The G-21 is not very accurate for me, but the G-20 is a great shooter, even with my plated bullet handloads.
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I felt like showing mine - G20 SF w/Traction Grips, Wolff 20lb recoil spring and guide rod, Glock factory night sights and Jentra grip plug.

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So which to buy - G20 or G29? It would be used for urban CCW, unlikely for wilderness carry. Figure my 686+ would do that.
IMHO, the 29 is the only way to go, but......it is also "big" for a CCW. The slide is wide and heavy. Not like a 26 or 27.
YMMV
 
The 21/20 are pretty huge.
They are, but a good holster makes all the difference in the world.
I can "conceal" my G20 with shorts and a t-shirt with my Alessi Talon IWB holster.
 
Whats not to like about a magnum-power 0.400" cartridge in an autoloader platform? Add to that the highly serviceable G20 platform with the ability to hold 15+1 rounds and convert to .40 SW with a mere barrel swap, and its hard to argue against it.

Ammo has never been an issue for me since I order defensive 10mm online in bulk. The prices from DoubleTap or Reed's are not bad at all. Then practice ammo comes in either a cheap case of .40 SW or I just reload some of the few hundred 10mm empties I have laying around. The local gunshop also has a small selection of 10mm if I need some in a jiffy. Overall, finding ammo to shoot out of it has never been a problem.
 
So which to buy - G20 or G29? It would be used for urban CCW, unlikely for wilderness carry.

For CCW in town, the G29... or better yet 26/27... is the way to go. The G20 can be carried concealed if needed, but is really best suited for OC.
 
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