The superintendent for the school district is the principal's superior and the place I would start. Unfortunately, I'm afraid your GF may also need to be prepared to look for a new job if things don't go well. But, its better than getting shot at work. I do NOT think this should be let go without further action.
What would you guys do if you heard this!
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Even if she is not targeted, can you imagine how she would feel if ANYONE got injured at all by this kid, and she hadn't done everything possible to try to stop it? That'll stick with ya forever. You guys have a duty to do what's right.
Dope
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My fiancee works in a public school.
As a PHTA (Teacher's Assistant) for troubled/special needs kids.
Fortunately, they are in first grade.
However, if she told me this story, I would tell her never to return to that school and IMMEDIATELY to contact the police and then the press.
If this is true, it is an egregious breach of duty by that principal.
As a PHTA (Teacher's Assistant) for troubled/special needs kids.
Fortunately, they are in first grade.
However, if she told me this story, I would tell her never to return to that school and IMMEDIATELY to contact the police and then the press.
If this is true, it is an egregious breach of duty by that principal.
CountGlockula
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Sue the principle.
MarcusWendt
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SniperX, if you do leave sure you replace her with someone who can read... unlike some people we both know.
Henry B put it as well as I could . It realy should be her call because it is her job on the line. I would strongly advise taking some action under these circumstances.
On the other hand big45 ? I must be in a mood because I find myself wanting to run your keyboard through a wood chipper. (I have a "thing" for grammer and spelling nazi's -
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On the other hand big45 ? I must be in a mood because I find myself wanting to run your keyboard through a wood chipper. (I have a "thing" for grammer and spelling nazi's -
)jhco
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i would most definetly let the police and school board and news know about this issue
Sniper X
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Roger that MNRiverat! I had a guy over on another site grate on me for misspelling a few things and I showed him the respect of asking him to drop the spelling Nazi thing. When he didn't someone else jumped him for his poor grammar! It was kinda funny really, a guy making out to be Mr smartypants, dna getting all put in his place.
Honestly, I wish more people would jump on grammar and spelling mistakes.
It should not be taken as an indication that they are so much smarter than you. I would welcome corrections so that I may better express myself.
You'd be amazed at the different response a well-worded statement will garner: at the very least, those opposing you cannot (plausibly) claim you to be ignorant or stupid.
It should not be taken as an indication that they are so much smarter than you. I would welcome corrections so that I may better express myself.
You'd be amazed at the different response a well-worded statement will garner: at the very least, those opposing you cannot (plausibly) claim you to be ignorant or stupid.
zxcvbob
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Just try it sometime. A misuse of "its" v. "it's", or "complement" v. "compliment", or a misspelling (etc.) will sneak in every time you try to correct someone. I think its a rule or something.
Funderb
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Both spellings, compliment and complement are correct,
according to every dictionary ever written.
according to every dictionary ever written.
"Both spellings, compliment and complement are correct,
according to every dictionary ever written. "
Eye think ewe knead two except that "spelled correctly" and "used correctly" are knot the same.
"Compliment" means to praise. "Complement" means that which is needed to complete or enhance.
according to every dictionary ever written. "
Eye think ewe knead two except that "spelled correctly" and "used correctly" are knot the same.
"Compliment" means to praise. "Complement" means that which is needed to complete or enhance.
Henry Bowman
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And now, back to the originally scheduled thread...
Please.
Please.
I am the first one to decry the foolish punishments handed out by schools under the guise of "zero tolerance."
This, however, is negligence on the part of those who are supposed act "in loco parentis." I'm sorry, but if it were my children, I would send anyone away who showed up with a gun and a "hit list."
But that's just me. Perhaps he's special so we should just let him prepare to kill a few teachers and students. Wouldn't want to make him feel bad beforehand, he might get mad...
This, however, is negligence on the part of those who are supposed act "in loco parentis." I'm sorry, but if it were my children, I would send anyone away who showed up with a gun and a "hit list."
But that's just me. Perhaps he's special so we should just let him prepare to kill a few teachers and students. Wouldn't want to make him feel bad beforehand, he might get mad...
I think what was covered here, talk to the principal's boss and to the police, is the most prudent action to take. If the principal back-peddles and says it didn't happen, tap those students who saw him twice as well as other school employees that handeled this. I'm sure there are enough people in your significant other's school who have the same natural disinclination to get shot, and who would be more then help bolster her case in front of the school board and authorities. Our right to own guns doesn't make it legal for an underage person to draw up a death-list and bring a weapon to a place where he can find the people on this list, and presumably do great bodily harm to them. There's rights, and then there's criminality. We're dealing with the latter here, guys.
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The best chance of keeping your (her) job in this kind of situation is to follow the chain of command. It sounds like the superintendent is next: "This is what has happened so far. I am very concerned that it has not been handled properly. Is this something that your office should deal with, or should I take it to the Schoolboard and Police?"
Once you start publicly embarrassing people (whether they deserve it or not), they will start circling the wagons, and you will be on the outside. If you are helping them contain the problem, and still get it fixed, you are in a much better position.
For what it's worth, been there, done it both ways, what I'm suggesting worked better:
BothellBob
Once you start publicly embarrassing people (whether they deserve it or not), they will start circling the wagons, and you will be on the outside. If you are helping them contain the problem, and still get it fixed, you are in a much better position.
For what it's worth, been there, done it both ways, what I'm suggesting worked better:
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eric.cartman
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Get off the computer, and call the COPS NOW!
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i went to a pretty violent middle school. Weapons on campus were common. The students that brought them intimidated the teachers and most wouldn't do anything. I remember some kid in the 6th grade started a fight with me for no reason between classes... teachers in the hallway... once it got physical all the teachers disappeared. the bitch probably doesn't want to be put on this kids hit list. This was a common concern where i went to school. If a teacher interfered then there would be retaliation... though it was gang violence and not a disturbed/challenged kid.
Its the same principle as when someone witness a crime and looks the other way to not be bothered. You see it every day when driving past a car accident. Most people just don't have the time or sense to stop what they are caught up in and help. The problem is its our duty as citizens to help each other. If this nut job wont help then you need to find someone else who will.
Its the same principle as when someone witness a crime and looks the other way to not be bothered. You see it every day when driving past a car accident. Most people just don't have the time or sense to stop what they are caught up in and help. The problem is its our duty as citizens to help each other. If this nut job wont help then you need to find someone else who will.
jakemccoy
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Go to the police first, then school board, then media as last resort.
I'd first call the cops and get a police report on file. Then, I'd call the county school board superintendent and report the principal. If they don't do anything, sue from the top down. A firing of the principal would be sufficient for me. The proper policies and protocol's are already in place. The problem is with a failure to execute, which is the principal's job.
I understand you're pissed, but the media is like setting off a biological weapon. You really have no control over the fall out, and your pro-gun rights will likely be affected, especially since it's a small town. However, if you want to turn your idyllic town into a mini-California, by all means, report criminal gun violations every chance you get.
We always complain about how anti-gun the media is. However, many here are now taking the opportunity to feed the monster. Do you really think the media will spin this story in a pro-gun manner? What exactly do you think the headline of the story will be?
The headline will certainly be derogatory towards guns. The principal may even come out looking like a hero somehow...seriously. The plight of your girlfriend will be lost underneath the sensationalism about the "fully automatic AK-47 assualt rifle" that the kid brought to school.
I'd first call the cops and get a police report on file. Then, I'd call the county school board superintendent and report the principal. If they don't do anything, sue from the top down. A firing of the principal would be sufficient for me. The proper policies and protocol's are already in place. The problem is with a failure to execute, which is the principal's job.
I understand you're pissed, but the media is like setting off a biological weapon. You really have no control over the fall out, and your pro-gun rights will likely be affected, especially since it's a small town. However, if you want to turn your idyllic town into a mini-California, by all means, report criminal gun violations every chance you get.
We always complain about how anti-gun the media is. However, many here are now taking the opportunity to feed the monster. Do you really think the media will spin this story in a pro-gun manner? What exactly do you think the headline of the story will be?
The headline will certainly be derogatory towards guns. The principal may even come out looking like a hero somehow...seriously. The plight of your girlfriend will be lost underneath the sensationalism about the "fully automatic AK-47 assualt rifle" that the kid brought to school.
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41magsnub
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Zero tolerance is crazy as mentioned for suspending a student over a butter knife or gun shaped chicken nugget, but a little panic is called for when a student shows up to class with a hit list and a real gun.
If I were your GF (I'm not and I'm a dude, don't read anything into that) I would be looking for different employment. Between the kid with a gun, lack of interest by the administration, and the apparent prejudice against her it is time, noting good will come from that job.
If I were your GF (I'm not and I'm a dude, don't read anything into that) I would be looking for different employment. Between the kid with a gun, lack of interest by the administration, and the apparent prejudice against her it is time, noting good will come from that job.
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