Whats the best lie you had a gun seller tell you

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Had a seller tell me that a phoenix arms hp-22 had just increased to 300.00 (a couple of years ago). I told him he was full of crap and walked out of his store.
 
When I picked up my new .380 a couple of weeks ago the sales guy told me he had 3 boxes of ammo and I better get them because they were the last 3 boxes in the state. I asked him if he had personally called all of the ammo outlets to have such fantastic knowledge.

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Physics test tomorrow morning, but taking time to tell a story.

So I'm in a shop. I've done business with them before, mostly had rifles shipped there. Did buy a Saiga at a great price there. I'm there with my mother, and we're thinking of picking up a small 9mm for my brother in law as a graduation gift.

She spots a beautiful Browning BDA under the glass. Now my mother's got an unhealthy obsession with Browning. She's got a Citori, hunts with a Browning .308 bolt action, wears her original Browning boots when she hunts, the works.

So her eyes get all glossy when I tell her that the pretty pistol is a browning. She would just love to see her Son in Law have such a great looking browning pistol.

But it's in .380. I remind her that we are looking for a 9mm. I also remind her that his hi-point carbine shoots 9mm as well.

Well she wants to see it anyway.

So we ask one of the store operators (the real owner is always in the back working on this or that) to see the browning. He lets us see it. My mother likes it, and the price is reasonable, but I tell her that ammo for 9mm will be cheaper, easier to find, and offer a wider-selection of loadings than the .380.

Well the guy behind the counter lets out a "Humph!" in a rather elitist sounding way. He proceeds to tell me that I am wrong, and that .380 ammo is much cheaper than 9mm.

I look him square in the eye and tell him he's fibbin'. My mother looked a little shocked, but I went on. I told him that I can find 9mm ammo cheaper and more widespread when compared to .380 ammo. And that includes practice and personal defense ammo.

He then takes two boxes from behind the counter and puts them on the counter in front of us. They were boxes of 20 Federal Hydrashock, one 9mm and one .380. He points to the prices.

"See?" He tries to lecture to me, "See on the tag? 9mm, 26.99. .380, 24.99!" His face beams with satisfaction for putting down an upidty youngster.

I slide the boxes back to him, saying "And the fact that I can get Federal HSTs in 50 round boxes for half that price doesn't mean jack, does it?" I motion for my mother to leave. "thanks for letting us see the gun, but don't try spin bullcrap on me or my mother."

I got a lecture when we got to the car, but I gently reminded my mother that I saved her from buying the gun (Because she does admit that she would have bought it). Not that it wasn't a nice gun, but it just wasn't what my BiL wanted.
 
Had a seller tell me that a phoenix arms hp-22 had just increased to 300.00
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MATA777

You found a place that actually had those death traps in stock and was willing to sell one? I heard those things pretty much just fly apart in Gun Reviews. Some of them in less than a full magazine!


Anyways its not a lie, but not very reassuring.

Went to the Big 5 in Orange.
Guy was showing a rifle, I waited my turn than asked to see a Mossberg 500, hands it to me, unlocked, without checking the chamber, then turns his back to me and starts moving the other guns around.

I gave it back to him and told him to make sure it was cleared. I shoulda put a round in it. :barf:
 
I was in walmart years ago to pick up a gun and heard the dept. manager trying to sell a winchester model 70 in 223 WSM with the pitch line " Yeah and you can shoot all the military surplus 223 out of it as well! Their made to be interchangeable!" It took opening two boxes of ammo before he would believe me. LAST GUN I BOUGHT THERE!
 
A clerk behind the counter emphatically argued with me that there was no such thing as an M590A1 with an aluminum trigger guard. he said it was only made in plastic. I insisted I'd seen it, touched it, and stopped short of telling him how I knew. I told me I was wrong. Go figure...
 
well,perhaps i should have said the clerk racked the slide on the glock and jumped into a tactical stance rather than cocked,claude.

i belive most people understood quite well what i meant.
 
Biggest Lie. I had a sales clerk tell me that the store did not mark up selected weapons at least 30 to 40% above invoice. I stated I would buy the gun I was looking at, at the asking price, if he would show me the invoice. He would not show me the invoice and I did not buy the Springfield XD .40 for $719. I bought it thru GB NIB for $530, total cost $555 out the door, and should be delivered to my FFL on Monday.
 
you see, now when you hold it, you know it's going to be accurate.

friend overheard a salesman trying to make the sale. I didn't know you have to be a psychic if you wanna sell guns.
 
Been around a good many of them. And each that was tried would not function without an opposing force. Maybe everyone (sic) that I've tried this with has been a lemon. If that's the case, Benelli's (sic) are trash because I've yet to see one work as is stated in the manual. (sic) Glad I still refuse to own one.
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Gee, that's funny, because all of mine work perfectly in accordance with the laws of physics, with which I am pretty familiar, being an engineer and all. They never fail to function unless it is interfered with or I use a light load AND hold it too firmly so that the gun cannot move rearward enough.

The best demonstration for this is that very light loads which refuse to function from a firm shoulder suddenly work perfectly if the gun is held out in the air with one hand only and with the butt not touching anything. From the shooter's perspective, it's the exact opposite of most autos (particularly pistols) that require a firm grip for positive functioning. OTOH, gas operated weapons tend to not care too much how they're held, because they aren't recoil operated.

In the Benelli system, the bolt BODY is sort of "free floating" within the receiver, while the bolt head/face is locked into the barrel extension at firing. Upon firing, the gun, including the locked bolt head (but not the bolt body) MUST recoil a bit (about 4mm) in order to compress the internal bolt spring that resides between the bolt head and bolt body. This compression occurs because during recoil the bolt body, not being firmly attached to the bolt head, tends to stay where is is due to Newton's First Law, from which the Benelli system gets its name. A moment later, the compressed bolt spring overcomes the inertia of the "floating" bolt body, pushing it to the rear whereupon it and cams the bolt head out of battery and pulls it to the rear for conventional operation for the rest of the cycle.

This is all easily proven via the laws of physics, but it's not very intuitive for folks without a clear understanding of the science. I've yet to see any legitimate proof of the various "alternate" methods of operation of this system.
 
I have serious doubts that a Benelli is all that bad, however I doubt is it as good as a Rem 870. I am also an engineer and do not understand how a firm grip can impede the function of a recoil operated shotgun (but I am a civil engineer so "if it moves there's problem" :D ). That being said...I hearby move that Benelli is no longer mentioned in this thread. :D
 
Not a lie from the seller really, but here in Clark County (Las Vegas, North Las Vegas, Henderson, Boulder City, etc), private parties are required to register all handguns and get a blue card (proof of registration). Years ago I was buying a HP22 (i know... i know) and the guy lived in henderson. We met at a Henderson police station and the officers there WOULD NOT transfer the gun to me (I was 18) on the grounds that because it was a handgun I legally couldn't even purchase ammo for it, so there was no need for the gun. You can purchase handguns from private parties if you're under 21, but you can't purchase handgun ammo (.22lr in this case). I showed the cops my other blue cards (one for a Thunder Five .45-70 revolver and the other for a BFR .500 mag revolver).

So to sum it up, the police told me "You cant buy ammo for this gun, so it's useless to buy it"

Last time I ever bought from someone in Henderson or went to their police station.

The gun seller DID try to tell me he converted his Rem 1400 12ga into full auto using pipe cleaners after i bought the gun from him.... made me uneasy...
 
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Come on MalH help us out!

Not a bad idea, Maverick, I didn't think of that.
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I think a couple people are subscribing to this thread, although there are only 12 pages of replies...:D
 
highpoint for $350

I had a guy at a pawn shop try to sell me a high-point c9 for $350 bucks...I am not a gun snob by no means so these are his exact words " This is a great carry gun, it is real scary looking and if you run out of ammo or there is a jam it is heavy enough to throw at them and knock them out" At 1 point i thought i was on a hidden camera show
 
used 6"python. detroit. the gun store clerk telling me: "formerly owned by a cop. traded it in 'cause it was too accurate."
 
It is scary looking and heavy, unfortunately that will do nothing for you if you run out of ammo.
 
an obese 24 year old salesman told me he was a navy seal! he then showed me a pos crkt knife that apparently the seals give you when you graduate (even though i know they have the S.O.G. knives that are about three times as much). he also knew nothing about guns and didn't even know what a "pointman" was!
 
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