Maverick223
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I don't put a great deal of faith in anything that comes from a gun rag...but that I will believe. Sounds just about right, and may even be a little conservative on his estimate.
Whats the best lie you had a gun seller tell you
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andyh1956
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I luv this thread! i will relate two- when my son & I went to flower mound tx to pick up some halftrack parts he wanted to got to dallas/ft worth bass world to shop for duck calls. we wound upstairs in the "fine gun room". i asked the salesman to look at a 1927 argentine colt & he took it out of the case for me- the phone rang & as he was going to answer i asked him if I could look at the insides- he said sure. In 10 seconds I had it field stripped & laying on a green pad on his desk. He got off the phone & saw that colt disissembled on his desk & turned as white as a clan member at a meeting! he started ranting & waving his arms & running in circles & then left the room. I re- assembled the colt & he came back on a cell phone- looked at the colt & told the other party to "never mind". He went "wheeew!" I thought for a minute yall had disassembled that pistol- it would never fire again if you hadda! It was time to go.
In 1968 I bought my remington nagant at a garage sale. the old guy had several rifles for sale & as i stood there mentaly trying to pool my resources for a volume buy discount the guy asks[in heavy german accent] if i wanted a powerful rifle. i asked how powerful? he said it would shoot through nine men front to back & five side to side. as i was walking home with said powerful rifle i wondered how he would know that.
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I luv this thread! i will relate two- when my son & I went to flower mound tx to pick up some halftrack parts he wanted to got to dallas/ft worth bass world to shop for duck calls. we wound upstairs in the "fine gun room". i asked the salesman to look at a 1927 argentine colt & he took it out of the case for me- the phone rang & as he was going to answer i asked him if I could look at the insides- he said sure. In 10 seconds I had it field stripped & laying on a green pad on his desk. He got off the phone & saw that colt disissembled on his desk & turned as white as a clan member at a meeting! he started ranting & waving his arms & running in circles & then left the room. I re- assembled the colt & he came back on a cell phone- looked at the colt & told the other party to "never mind". He went "wheeew!" I thought for a minute yall had disassembled that pistol- it would never fire again if you hadda! It was time to go.
In 1968 I bought my remington nagant at a garage sale. the old guy had several rifles for sale & as i stood there mentaly trying to pool my resources for a volume buy discount the guy asks[in heavy german accent] if i wanted a powerful rifle. i asked how powerful? he said it would shoot through nine men front to back & five side to side. as i was walking home with said powerful rifle i wondered how he would know that.
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Deus Machina
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I've heard the 'rule of threes' from various sources. 3 yards, 3 seconds, 3 rounds. Either sounds about right.
My local place (Shoot Straight in Tampa; unfortunately they have the only nearby range) sucks at pricing. One of the guys mistook my dumbfounded look over the price of a used .22 (Raven, I think) for interest.
"I've had one of those for years, shoot bullseye competitions with it. $240's the lowest you'll find around here."
The older guys know to keep me away from prospective customers, because I'm likely to turn to my friends and announce "$700 for a used PCR? These people are high! I got mine new for $540!" loud enough that every customer and employee--especially the employees!--in that quarter of the store can hear me.
I've done this on a few things now. 3rd-gen S&W's, NAA .22 Mini's ($250 used), SKS's ($550), AR's of varying sorts, 870's ($375 used), a Bubba'd non-matching Mosin Nagant M44 ($285)...
In fact, I rarely see anyone actually buying a gun there, that isn't a competition model, suppressed/supressable, or a Sigma...
I went to a gunshow and seen a 357 S&W I cant recall the model # but I talked to the guy after handling it and asked why the hammer didn't engage when cocked he explained that this particular gun was worn by the canadian mounties and they were made double action only. The price wasn't bad it was around 275 or so. I bought the gun brought it home and disassembled it. Someone didnt do their gunsmith homework, the hammer had been "hand ground" so to speak. So ellett brothers got a call and I got another hammer.
Deus Machina
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That may actually have been right, sixgun. A lot of law-enforcement agencies had a DA-only requirement, and ended up grinding off the single-action lug on revolvers. Always .38, from what I've seen.
ljnowell
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JG sales has a bunch of those for sale right now. I'm pretty sure it was a lawyer type thing that made them do it.
http://www.jgsales.com/product_info...dao-very-good-plus-condition/products_id/4120
reckless carolinian
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Not me, exactly, but my wife. She was told that Colt has been out of business for 10 years, that no one made the 1911 style pistol anymore anyway, because it was obsolete, but that the obviously neglected series 70 in the case for $1795.00 was a bargain. Oh, and that it wasn't fitting and proper for a woman to own a .45, and that she really should be looking at the more appropriate .380 or 9mm.
essayons21
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Same vein... guy at the Bass Pro Counter told me they didn't carry 1911s because nobody wanted those any more. He said they hardly ever sold the one 1911 they stocked, a (overpriced) Sig, so they didn't see a reason to carry Springers, Kimbers, etc.
ThomasT
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Whats the best lie you had a gun seller tell you ?
That I was the first.
No really, I was the first buyer at the new store in town.
That I was the first.
No really, I was the first buyer at the new store in town.
As unbelieveable as this sounds, every word of it is true. Not too long ago I was with some friends when one of them wantes to show me his new moisin nagant. When he handed it to me he proceded to tell me how it was used in stalingrad to kill hundreds of Germans. I simply say "ok" and let it be. Then he goes on to tell me that it shoots the 7.62 X 51, the same round used in the Ak-47 and the M-16. For ten minutes I tried to explain to him that the Ak shot a 7.62 X 39 and the M-16 shot a 5.56, but he told me that those were "gook" rounds and they could be fired from the rifles, but they might blow up. Eventually I just said "ok, whatever" and I left it at that.
Erik M
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westend, you should look for my post a couple months back where my local pawn shop was selling 7.62x51 labeled as 7.62x54r. Said they knew they coudnt move the surplus .308 ammo but knew that alot of people had bought ammo there for their Mosins. Said that one of the guys that workd there had verified u could fire the 308 ammo from a 91/30 mosis so they diddnt see any safety issue with the false advertising.
essayons21
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Wow! If they were selling .308 at x54r prices I would have bought the place out!
bwsmith2850
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LAPD was known for it years ago. They called them 'neutered.' I guess that sums up the rank & file's opinion of the practice. They didn't want to the coppers to cock the pistol to SA because that might be 'reckless' and cause a 'hair trigger' condition. Same kind of idea that has people passing out over a cocked & locked 1911.
My newest 'story'. 'We can't buy that rifle because the stock is broken and it won't hold up to recoil.' It had a small 1/8" chip in the stock by the bolt. I didn't think .22LR had that much recoil. I sanded it flat, put a drop of stain on it & they bought it the next day.
Deus I didn't know that and I guess I could call in the serial at S&W and see where it was shipped if it was sent to the LE in canada. Thank you for that information just seems like they would order something DA only instead of ruining a perfectly good SA stage on the hammer. of course this is just my opinion.
I was browsing in the gun store the other day and I heard the assistant say to a young couple who were looking to buy a gun for the girl:
"You don't want a 9 mm because they over penetrate."
"Don't try a Sig because if you do you will just fall in love with it and you will have to have it".
"You don't want a 9 mm because they over penetrate."
"Don't try a Sig because if you do you will just fall in love with it and you will have to have it".
I've read through most of these and I gotta say, IMO this one wins. I can't even believe you could come up with this much less actually say it to someone:
I was told a lie last night at a gun shop on the Illinois side of the St. Louis region when I went in to pick up an SKS.
Me: "I hate cleaning the cosmoline off these rifles."
Salesman: "You want to keep that on as long as you can because it was developed by the Jews to hide guns during the Holocaust."
Me: I should have left it alone as is, but I asked, "How's that?"
Salesman: "It has some chemical isotopes and ions that make it impossible to be seen by xrays and the Nazis would xray houses to find guns." I gave him a dumbfounded look and he went on to say, "I say keep one of these in your floorboard or behind a wall because the Illinois State Police will come to your house to confiscate your guns at midnight when your FOID card expires and they will xray your house to make sure you have no hidden guns."
Me: "Ok, thanks."
And here I thought it was just applied to prevent rust!
I was told a lie last night at a gun shop on the Illinois side of the St. Louis region when I went in to pick up an SKS.
Me: "I hate cleaning the cosmoline off these rifles."
Salesman: "You want to keep that on as long as you can because it was developed by the Jews to hide guns during the Holocaust."
Me: I should have left it alone as is, but I asked, "How's that?"
Salesman: "It has some chemical isotopes and ions that make it impossible to be seen by xrays and the Nazis would xray houses to find guns." I gave him a dumbfounded look and he went on to say, "I say keep one of these in your floorboard or behind a wall because the Illinois State Police will come to your house to confiscate your guns at midnight when your FOID card expires and they will xray your house to make sure you have no hidden guns."
Me: "Ok, thanks."
And here I thought it was just applied to prevent rust!
LeontheProfessional
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I was at the gun counter at Bass Pro the other night and over heard a clerk talking with a fellow about his first handgun purchase. The guy asked about a 45 and the clerk said "you don't want to buy that because it will penetrate through your walls. You want to go with a smaller caliber like a 9mm or 40 that won't penetrate". I swear, they must hirer some the dumbest people on the planet.
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one of the problems is that normal people see these people as experts and believe them.
LeontheProfessional
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Exactly. I hate it when I hear the "well the guy at Bass Pro said..." line.
jlg
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Back right after Obama got elected and ammo prices were shooting through the roof I had a guy try to convince me that I should by a Glock 45GAP because the ammo was a hair cheaper and easier to find than the 45ACP for my 1911 at the time because not as many people were shooting the 45GAP.
Where I can see his point about not as many people shooting it... I'd have to buy about 5,000 rounds of ammo for the cost savings to make anywhere close to good sense and then I'd be shooting a Glock instead of my 1911. Sorry man, no sale.
Where I can see his point about not as many people shooting it... I'd have to buy about 5,000 rounds of ammo for the cost savings to make anywhere close to good sense and then I'd be shooting a Glock instead of my 1911. Sorry man, no sale.
Maverick223
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That reminds me of something "the guy at Bass Pro said" a couple years back (sorry if it is a repeat...but I ain't goin' back and checkin'
)..."we don't sell any round that will penetrate a bullet-proof vest". My rebuttal: So this .375H&H won't penetrate soft body armor? His response: "Nope, like I said NONE of our ammunition will...not even the .223".Now that's a knee slapper right there.
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