Whats the best lie you had a gun seller tell you

[Rimmer]

delta5
One thing that annoys me is dealers that walk around a gunshow looking at what you happen to be carrying. They are looking to lowball you on stuff they think they can quickly flip for an outrageous price.

I grew tired of Dealers wanting to look at what I was carring around the gun shows and then saying to me, after I gave them my price, "Bring it back around later and I'll make you a fair offer". The two times I went back they offered me half of what I eventually sold it for.

Now when I walk through and they ask, I just tell them, "You can't afford it" and walk away.

Dealers are there to sell whatever they have at whatever price they can get. They have no incentive to pay you what it's worth so don't bother asking them. If a new-be/virgin gets stung it will be his fault for not asking/researching before he walked in.

That said, I've always offered my 2¢ and more than once have had people stop me and ask for more info before they buy.

I have rarely had a dealer give me a completely truthful answer to my question. The few that have, have correctly sized me up based on my questions.

 

[steak-knife]

.38 special non+P Nyclad (my favorite S&W 642 load)

Sales guy told me a little bit of a whopper to get me to buy more ammo.

Long story short, I found a stash of "new" old store stock .38 special non+P Nyclads, which were only until recently discontinued. They were reasonably priced, so I bought a few boxes, leaving the remaining boxes behind because I was at my wallets limit. Yes, guns & ammo= good, but I also have to buy food and everthing else "necessary" for the family.

Sales guy tells me that I better buy up the rest because the Nyclads were armor piercing and that they're "really getting hard to get" and will be probably sold out within the next few nano-seconds.....

Had to hold my tongue and not blurt out a "Oh, really....?" before politely correcting him that the whole point of Nyclads was to help the bullet expand, not penetrate armor. He also gave me a look as if I were wearing a tinfoil hat when I told him that Federal was making Nyclads again.

 

[The Lone Haranguer]

I have been told over and over at gun shows by vendors when I ask if they have any 5.56mm ammo, that there is no difference at all between 5.56 and .223 Rem and that I'm not going to find 5.56mm marked ammunition because that's for the military. The civilian equivalent is .223 Rem.

That could be another mistaken statement borne of a misconception, rather than a lie. I didn't know about the one-way interchangeability myself until fairly recently.

 

[Redneck with a 40]

I actually heard a dealer at a gun show, tell some guy, that a Taurus Judge 45/410 is the ultimate home defense gun, lol! The ultimate home defense gun, in my opinion, is a 12 gauge.

As far as Kimber 1911's go, it does say in the owners manual, that you should run 500 rounds of ball ammo through it, before its deemed reliable.

 

[RP88]

"We got the best AK and AR prices in the area."

This usually translates as "we're the only ones with ARs and AKs left in the area." Go figure.

 

[Simpleman04]

when I got my mp340 at a show, he said it i'll hurt like hell after 50rounds of full power loads, oh wait he was right.

But when I was young dumb and stupid I bought a S&W Sigma 40ve for 350 because he said its a new and improved version of a glock. Actually I bought it becasue I had 400 to spend which ment I could shoot 100 rounds and buy a box of golden sabers.

 

[45crittergitter]

Mine was ammo, not a gun...

I really hate to admit it, but once a guy sold me some .41 Magnum Black Talons. :banghead: Yeah. They really were Black Talons - 10mm loaded into .41 cases.

 

[Travis Bickle]

Some of these posts remind me of why I never go to gun shows anymore. Seems like there's nothing there in the way of off-paper sales except for lots of sketchy characters trying to unload worthless, shot-out junk to newbies who don't know any better.

If you prefer to purchase your guns off-paper, classified ads are a much better way to go. Someone is much less likely to try and pull a fast one if you know where they live.

I hate to say this, but if the antis manage to get gun shows shut down, it wouldn't really bother me that much. Couldn't happen to a nicer group of folks.

 

[cuervo]

"Last chance to buy this Springfield A4 Sniper Rifle" showing me a sporterized A3. I passed on this one. I did buy a Wamo .22 from him.

Another one when I didn't know any better was that "this Fed-Ord" is mil-spec and is made much better than a Springfield M1A.

 

[LSU Fan]

Overheard a salesman tell a mother looking to buy a pistol for her son say that...

"This is a glock. The thing about the glock is that it doesn't have any kind of safety on it, and the only way to safely carry a glock is without one in the chamber. If you ever have to use it you will have to quickly rack one in the chamber before you can shoot."

I thought about saying something, but I just turned around and walked away.

 

[Olympus]

I might have told this one before, but it bears repeating. I was looking at a Ruger No.1 at a small gun shop out of town. I'll give the guy this, I probably did look like a yuppie from the city with my shirt and tie on but I left right from work. Anyway, he's a got a No.1 with a red pad in decent condition for $875. I ask what's the best he can do on the rifle for a cash sale. He says oh I couldn't take anything less than $875 for it. He says that probably because there's quite a few other customers standing around looking at other guns. So I tell him that I can order a brand new one for $800. This catches him off guard because he looks at me for a second. Then he says this: "Not in .243 you can't, they don't make a Ruger No.1 in .243 anymore." I just couldn't help grinning on that one. I said "Hey, you wouldn't have a Ruger catalog around or the internet I could look at on that do you?" Then he notices all the other customers looking at him funny and decides to change his story. He says, "What I mean is you can't get one with the red pad anymore." I said obviously and whistled my way out the door.

 

[ArmedBear]

A 10/22 is a great gun.

 

[cleardiddion]

Lol, AmredBear!

True that, my Marlin 60 will shoot the tacks off the 10/22's shotgun-patterned target

 

[chuckusaret]

I took my Mossberg 500 12 ga 20" barrel with all the after market crap to the local gun shop to have it ported. When I took it out of the case the salesman helping another customer said to his customer; "There is the reason they are going to ban assult weapons". This gun is only good as an attention getter.

 

[gopguy]

A little off as this was not a story to me, but a rip off nonetheless.

I was in a gun shop when two old ladies came in with three nice shotguns . A Remington 870 and Ithaca 37 both in 410. and a Browning Auto 5. Ones husband had died and so she did not want the guns in the house. The dealer offered them $150 for all three, and to my stunned amazement they took it, with delight...

 

[Merkelman]

When they tell you their cost!!

 

[crazy-mp]

Had a woman pawn shop dealer try to tell me that her Remington made Mosin 91/30 was made by Remington for U.S. troop in 7.62 X 54 so if we ever got into a war with the Russian we could use those guns to fight them with their own ammo. (the glowing ammo from one of the earlier responses comes to mind) This gun was probably snuck out of a armory somewhere, or might have been a bring back.

Ok I have waders and I am not afraid to get in too deep, but here’s what really made me mad

When I went back to pick up the gun a couple weeks later, I was going to use my C&R license. She tells me that the C&R licenses are only good for buying parts kits and that the ATF will not allow her to transfer a gun to a C&R license.

I am still being calm at this point

So I fill out the required paper work, they call it in, and guess what I am not a criminal or wanted by any major law enforcement groups. Then she tries to take a copy of my C&R.

Yeah that’s pretty much when I lost it, I told her that she would not get a copy of it, and I reminded her of what she told me about the parts kits, and asked her how many guns she was going to put in her book that I bought from her.

It is amazing what I did for a $75 gun.

 

[RaferJanders]

Well, 66912 and myself were in a gun shop in Portland's East Side, can not recall the Name, One of the owner's Daughters works the counter Not only hotter than a 150 dollar AK, but a wealth of information on all types of firearms, What a gal, Well one of her regulars remarked how he bought that last 38 for his daughter and she took back to Arizona were she lives and is a resident, The incredbly beautiful gun saleswomen early 20ies Replied " Why did you tell me That!" We could lose our shop, Because you made a straw purchase. The old crank started to tell the girl she was wrong and he could buy a gun for anyone he wants, He was getting loud and rude, So I stepped in and explainned the Law to him, He replied, Well your not going to take away my civil rights! With that comment, 66912 was laughing so hard and the Hot girl was laughing, I just smiled and Nope they are not going to take your civil rights, and you know what? He said What? I said you cant fix stupid! He said thats right! and stormed out. She smiled and said thanks, Well I went to another part of the store, and When I returned to the area she works in, She had removed her sweatshirt and was sporting a very nice yellow tank top, 66912 smiled and said she did that for you, I went yea sure, As we were leaving she smiled and said I hope I see you again soon, I smiled and said Of course you do!

 

[Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow]

I can't top most of these 6 pages, but like most I suspect, I've been told that an AK type in x39 is a long range sniper rifle.

delta5
One thing that annoys me is dealers that walk around a gunshow looking at what you happen to be carrying. They are looking to lowball you on stuff they think they can quickly flip for an outrageous price.
I grew tired of Dealers wanting to look at what I was carring around the gun shows and then saying to me, after I gave them my price, "Bring it back around later and I'll make you a fair offer". The two times I went back they offered me half of what I eventually sold it for.

Now when I walk through and they ask, I just tell them, "You can't afford it" and walk away.

Yep, I got sick of vendors lowballing me and wasting my valuable show-walking time, so now I just say "It's not for sale" or "I don't sell to vendors".

 

[Claude Clay]

crazy-mp

Had a woman pawn shop dealer try to tell me that her Remington made Mosin 91/30.......

model of 1916 made by remington and westinghouse.......
not well known but they do exist

 

[Coyote_Hunter_]

Was looking at a new Howa at a gunshow last weekend.

The seller claimed it was made by Weatherby...

 

[Bartkowski]

Had a woman pawn shop dealer try to tell me that her Remington made Mosin 91/30 was made by Remington for U.S. troop in 7.62 X 54 so if we ever got into a war with the Russian we could use those guns to fight them with their own ammo. (the glowing ammo from one of the earlier responses comes to mind) This gun was probably snuck out of a armory somewhere, or might have been a bring back.

Remington did make some Mosins. Did you see the gun? She may have confused the gun for a 91/30. Could have been a great deal for you if she did.

 

[cracked junior]

A few weeks ago had a Cabelas counter person tell me that the Luepold VX-III 6.5-20x40 is not a good scope and I will not be happy with it. instead I should buy theTasco target/varmint 6-24x42.

 

[TX1911fan]

Well one of her regulars remarked how he bought that last 38 for his daughter and she took back to Arizona were she lives and is a resident,

This doesn't sound like a straw purchase to me, but rather an illegal transfer across state lines. I've bought a bunch of guns for people as gifts. Nothing wrong with that. But none of them are residents in other states. Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think I am. We should make sure our information is correct if we are going to have 6 pages of stories of other people getting it wrong.

 

[Travis Bickle]

This doesn't sound like a straw purchase to me, but rather an illegal transfer across state lines.

If it was legal for her to posses the gun in the state she was given it in, and also legal for her to posses it in Arizona, then it sounds to me like she'd be protected by McClure/Volkmer.