Said by Old Dog
While I do not necessary agree with everything RX-79G is saying, Deanimator is doing a very good job of showing that some of what RX-79G says is true.
Yes... yes he is.
Said by Deaniminator
The other side calls them "opinion LEADERS" for a reason.
The con men at the top of BOTH the Holocaust denial and gun control grifts CREATE narratives, which they spoon feed to the gullible.
OK... so now you've identified the problem is the 'opinion leaders' and their 'gullible' followers.
Said by Deanimator
There is NO possible "compromise" with an opponent who has maximalist goals about which he shamelessly lies.
I don't see where anyone has said to actually compromise. If some one has, please quote it.
(BTW, your holocaust, and similar, comments only serve as a red herring argument which undermines your position, and strengthens RX's. (Others see it too) )
Old Lady New Shooter does a great job of exposing the crux.
Said by Old Lady new shooter
The "opinion leaders" ARE our opponents. However, many of their low-information FOLLOWERS could be just as persuadable by us as by the "opinion leaders".
Said by Deanimator
And I do.
They're being LIED to. I show them HOW.
I find that very difficult to believe if you use the same tactic with them as you do here.
To Re-Cap:
The problem is the 'opinion leaders' and their 'gullible' followers, as Deanimator himself identified.
The 'opinion leaders' are in office because of their 'gullible' followers.
As Old Lady New Shooter has astutely noted, the Pro 2A side could be the 'opinion leaders' of those 'gullible' followers. (I think RX was going to get there, eventually)
But Why aren't we the leaders of those 'low-information / gullible' followers???!!!???
(note: the following quote was not said by Deanimator but its applicable)
Maybe I don't want to appear reasonable to people with such flawed logic.
In order to get the 'gullible' people to follow, you have to sound 'reasonable'. The Anti 2A leaders have demonstrated this.... they even call it 'Reasonable Common Sense Gun Control' so that their followers don't have to think for themselves and determine if its reasonable or not. The Anti2A-ers have already told them it is.
That doesn't mean you have to compromise. In means you have to present your side in a way that they can relate to and want to follow.
If someone is not willing to present their Pro2A argument in a way that your targeted audience can related to, or worse, turns them of because of sounding un-reasonable, then they are part of the problem as they have become an unknowing shill that benefits the Anti 2A as opposed to helping the Pro 2A.
Shouting 'Holocaust' hasn't worked. Its almost asinine to keep doing it (keep doing the same thing and expecting a different outcome is the (misquoted) definition of insanity.