armoredman
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Actually, I hunt at Alberstons'.....
What's with all the guns?
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Huh?
"Nobody "needs" to hunt.
When you add up the time spent, the cost of travel, licenses, and so on, you can easily eat well at a fine restaurant, and be a big "tipper', and spend less money per oz of food than you spend on flesh that you took with a gun. The IRS allows you to write off 37c a mile from your taxes, so you know it actually costs you more to operate a vehicle. So a 100 mile round trip costs $37, and the 2 hours of your time could easily have earned you $23, just doing oddjobs. Think about that, the next time you want to put a rabbit in the pot."
No one needs a mansion. No one "needs" a BMW M5. No onw needs a car that can go over 80mph...It's not about "need", its about CHOICE and more important RIGHT.
MaceWindu
"Nobody "needs" to hunt.
When you add up the time spent, the cost of travel, licenses, and so on, you can easily eat well at a fine restaurant, and be a big "tipper', and spend less money per oz of food than you spend on flesh that you took with a gun. The IRS allows you to write off 37c a mile from your taxes, so you know it actually costs you more to operate a vehicle. So a 100 mile round trip costs $37, and the 2 hours of your time could easily have earned you $23, just doing oddjobs. Think about that, the next time you want to put a rabbit in the pot."
No one needs a mansion. No one "needs" a BMW M5. No onw needs a car that can go over 80mph...It's not about "need", its about CHOICE and more important RIGHT.
MaceWindu
sturmruger
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I bought my first gun when I was 12. I have aquired 16 more guns in the last 14 years. The one thing that I really apreciate about my gun collection is that fact that I am really not loosing any money by purchasing guns. There are a few guns that I might have paid a little more then I should have, but all in all most of my guns were bought because they were a good deal, or they filled a niche that I was looking to fill.
Robert J McElwain
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A friend of mine, due to a balance problem, needs to walk with the aid of a cane. He only needs one cane, and can only use one at a time, but he owns about 20 of them. Go figure.
Bob
Bob
fastbolt
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Hmmm ... Thinking about a woman's closet for a moment ...
What's with all the shoes? Some of them even look the same ...
How many can she wear at any given time?
What's with all the shoes? Some of them even look the same ...
How many can she wear at any given time?
Baba Louie
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Gosh, and here I hunt at times without ever killing a thing, except my time. I don't "NEED" to go outdoors, but I choose to.
But this isn't about hunting, unless it's a hunt for "The Right Gun for me, for right now." Who knows what tomorrow will bring? The NEXT right gun for me, for right then, possibly. Hopefully. Like harvesting game, I don't bring home every gun I've hunted down. Sometimes, it's enough to know it's out there and that I COULD have it, should I choose; as Mr. Ross so eloquently pointed out.
At any rate... the "hunt" continues.
"I'm a Dreaming Man. Yes that's my problem." neil young
I'm up to 43, all but eight are military. I had eight uncles in WWII from Pearl Harbor to Battle of the Bulge, Guadalcanal to to Remagen. One uncle turned sixteen on Guadalcanal, I have his Type 99 w/bayonet and Japanese helmet from Saipan, another was in the engineer platoon that first crossed the bridge at Remagen, I have his 98K, another was with the 3rd Inf Div from Sicily to the Bulge, I have his Luger,P38,and parachute knife, I have a M1 carbine from one at Anzio, a MAS36 from one who was with Patton's Army (he drove a fuel truck). I could go on and on. My non military are a Marlin 30-30 for deer hunting, a Colt SP2 for coyote hunting, an Anshutz .22 for snake and critter hunting, a Mod 97 Winchester from an uncle for turkey hunting, a Winchester Mod 12 from an uncle for bird hunting, a Colt .357 for target and home defense, a Rossi 12ga stagecoach for home defense, and a Charter Undercover .38 for carry. All of these men have passed, when I shoot uncle Herb's 98K or uncle Jame's M1 carbine, or uncle Jim's type 99 they are with me offering steady advice just as they did when they were alive and they showed me how to shoot their guns when I was a kid. I've added a SKS from Cambodia to the count,and my sons one day will own this family history
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iamkris
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You are making an argument based on your mental model alone. You appear to be making the argument that you can't be proficient for self defense or competition if you have more than 1 gun of each "category".
That would be correct if the only reasons to own guns were self defense or competition...
...but those AREN'T the only reasons.
Personally for me it's:
You are making an argument based on your mental model alone. You appear to be making the argument that you can't be proficient for self defense or competition if you have more than 1 gun of each "category".
That would be correct if the only reasons to own guns were self defense or competition...
...but those AREN'T the only reasons.
Personally for me it's:
- plain old fun to shoot / plinking / paper punching
- competition
- historical value
- art of the gun
- mechanics of the gun
- collection of variations
- physices of ballistics
- exercise of freedom and liberty
- self defense
- tool for hunting
joe sixpack
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Loose Cannon:
Thanks for the advice and for the record I'm no little lady, but a married man. As for the nick, well it's a long story but involves no tv'ism or gheyness
whatsoever. I did go to an indoor range and tried the Glock 19 - and 17.
They were both fine, except the 17 seemed to fit a little better.
cheers, ab
Thanks for the advice and for the record I'm no little lady, but a married man. As for the nick, well it's a long story but involves no tv'ism or gheyness
whatsoever. I did go to an indoor range and tried the Glock 19 - and 17.
They were both fine, except the 17 seemed to fit a little better.
cheers, ab
loose cannon
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much apologies
for the incorect assumption both on your knowlege of weapons and your gender and i cant rec the g17 higher one is seldom more than 3' away from me at any one time
for the incorect assumption both on your knowlege of weapons and your gender and i cant rec the g17 higher one is seldom more than 3' away from me at any one time
joe sixpack
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Hey LC, no worries. The gender thing - I took this name as it was a nick
I used in an online fps mod called 'Action Half-life', which was just about
all the experience I had with anything remotely resembling a weapon
When I registered on the main bulletin boards I used the above nick, and have not changed it.
cheers, ab
I used in an online fps mod called 'Action Half-life', which was just about
all the experience I had with anything remotely resembling a weapon
When I registered on the main bulletin boards I used the above nick, and have not changed it.
cheers, ab
loose cannon
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loose cannon
is my cb handle i drive semis to and from kingman az twice a week from 89-99 i got real familiar with so cal when they started getting real nasty to gun owners i decided 44miles was all the closer i wanted to get to cal
up till the reg denny incident i actually went unarmed in cal but when denny got drug out of his truck and "bricked"i was 5miles away with only a tire thumper for company this was (for me)pre glock era i saw the light
is my cb handle i drive semis to and from kingman az twice a week from 89-99 i got real familiar with so cal when they started getting real nasty to gun owners i decided 44miles was all the closer i wanted to get to cal
up till the reg denny incident i actually went unarmed in cal but when denny got drug out of his truck and "bricked"i was 5miles away with only a tire thumper for company this was (for me)pre glock era i saw the light
Mornard
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Guns... Guns... Guns...
Action Barbi:
Good Topic. All I can offer is my own story. I used to be content with a small handfull of guns. A shotgun, a 22 rifle for squirrels, and a deer rifle. Then I started trap shooting. Needed a different gun. Then I started competition shooting - NRA high power (needed a different rifle) and NRA Bullseye (needed a pistol). Years went by, I was ok.
Then I picked up a copy of "Double Gun Journal", and became hopelessly lost. I became enamoured of double guns (shotguns)- there's so many different action types, styles, designs. Then there's double rifles. Then I decided to collect all the garden-variety guns made for hardware stores and retailers, and the cheaper lines of major manufacturers. (White Powder Wonder, Nitro Special, the Sterlingworth, the Trojan, the Fulton) guns with hammers, guns without hammers, all American-made target .22 rifles, all American-made SBT (Single barrel Trap guns) GH grade Parker shotguns with Damascus bbls, a full set of all gauges of American Gun Co., hammer shotguns, engraved German and Austrian rifles and shotguns, and then just some weird and different stuff.
There's many reasons, whether it's to get all calibers of a particular maker, or to just enjoy the highly engineered quality of German guns (like a Mercedes, they are...) it's just an offshoot of my Buffalo nickle collection when I was in Jr. High, but a heck of a lot more expensive, (and fun...)
Action Barbi:
Good Topic. All I can offer is my own story. I used to be content with a small handfull of guns. A shotgun, a 22 rifle for squirrels, and a deer rifle. Then I started trap shooting. Needed a different gun. Then I started competition shooting - NRA high power (needed a different rifle) and NRA Bullseye (needed a pistol). Years went by, I was ok.
Then I picked up a copy of "Double Gun Journal", and became hopelessly lost. I became enamoured of double guns (shotguns)- there's so many different action types, styles, designs. Then there's double rifles. Then I decided to collect all the garden-variety guns made for hardware stores and retailers, and the cheaper lines of major manufacturers. (White Powder Wonder, Nitro Special, the Sterlingworth, the Trojan, the Fulton) guns with hammers, guns without hammers, all American-made target .22 rifles, all American-made SBT (Single barrel Trap guns) GH grade Parker shotguns with Damascus bbls, a full set of all gauges of American Gun Co., hammer shotguns, engraved German and Austrian rifles and shotguns, and then just some weird and different stuff.
There's many reasons, whether it's to get all calibers of a particular maker, or to just enjoy the highly engineered quality of German guns (like a Mercedes, they are...) it's just an offshoot of my Buffalo nickle collection when I was in Jr. High, but a heck of a lot more expensive, (and fun...)
dj53
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action barbi:
I sympathize with your confusion. I acquired a Glock 9mm several years ago, thought it would be all I "needed" for protection. By and by I realized that handguns are kinda underpowered for home protection, so I added a tricked out shotgun. Then I happened to be at the range when a CMP Highpowered rifle match was going on, now I got a Garand. Then I needed to get a .22 lr rifle for practice, so I didn't use up my 30-06 ammo too fast. Then I discovered how fun a lever action carbine is in .44mag.
Most recently I got a small baby Glock in 9mm for my wife, and switched to a 1911 . 45ACP for my carry gun. Of course the Kimber is aluminum frame, so I had to have a Springfield Armpory MilSpec steel frame for the range.
For those times where I just want to pop a gun in my pocket and go, I got a S&W snub revolver (12 ozs).
So, starting with a need for only one gun, I wind up with nine!
My small safe is pretty full now, so if I "develop" a need for something else, I will need a bigger safe!
Once the bug bites, there is no tellin' where you will end up.
I sympathize with your confusion. I acquired a Glock 9mm several years ago, thought it would be all I "needed" for protection. By and by I realized that handguns are kinda underpowered for home protection, so I added a tricked out shotgun. Then I happened to be at the range when a CMP Highpowered rifle match was going on, now I got a Garand. Then I needed to get a .22 lr rifle for practice, so I didn't use up my 30-06 ammo too fast. Then I discovered how fun a lever action carbine is in .44mag.
Most recently I got a small baby Glock in 9mm for my wife, and switched to a 1911 . 45ACP for my carry gun. Of course the Kimber is aluminum frame, so I had to have a Springfield Armpory MilSpec steel frame for the range.
For those times where I just want to pop a gun in my pocket and go, I got a S&W snub revolver (12 ozs).
So, starting with a need for only one gun, I wind up with nine!
My small safe is pretty full now, so if I "develop" a need for something else, I will need a bigger safe!
Once the bug bites, there is no tellin' where you will end up.
ReadyontheRight
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On simple answer -- What's with all the Freedom?
Nice choice on the Garand and the 1911 by the way. I bet you will eventually want more than one of each. It just happens.
Nice choice on the Garand and the 1911 by the way. I bet you will eventually want more than one of each. It just happens.
ExtremeDooty
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I've had a long gun since I was six. I now have 2 shotguns and rifle.
I bought the first hangun - cheap 9mm - and got the CPL due to a threat to my family. Bought the second handgun for more firepower XD-40 and besides I liked it. Bought the third one to give me more carry options 357 mag snubby, and besides I liked it. The next is probably going to be P3AT for another carry option, maybe backup and besides I like it. I think I see a pattern forming here. I like guns and I won't be happy until I have one of each, maybe two in some cases.
I bought the first hangun - cheap 9mm - and got the CPL due to a threat to my family. Bought the second handgun for more firepower XD-40 and besides I liked it. Bought the third one to give me more carry options 357 mag snubby, and besides I liked it. The next is probably going to be P3AT for another carry option, maybe backup and besides I like it. I think I see a pattern forming here. I like guns and I won't be happy until I have one of each, maybe two in some cases.
joe sixpack
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Glad to have posed a question that people enjoy posting to and reading.
I know more than I did.
Thank you for responding!
cheers, ab
I know more than I did.
Thank you for responding!
cheers, ab
Hey, can't you just play along here? We can't actually see you, so you can make up anything here, like being an inhumanly disproportionate blonde.
My guns fill different niches, some of which were not availible to me when I first started. Some were just plain cool. The multiples in caliber make going to the range easier. Some of it was experience - as I learned, I found out other guns filled important niches better.
joe sixpack
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Um, yeah, but that would be no fun for me.
Anyways, thanks for your response!
cheers, ab
Anyways, thanks for your response!
cheers, ab
Spent a LOT of time picking my first one. I wanted one that would do EVERYTHING.
Then I bought another one--and another--and another...that went on for some years.
I got into a rut for awhile where I'd sell/trade something and then find myself later buying something virtually identical to what I had sold/traded. It took me awhile to realize that I had pretty much exactly what I wanted already and that's what was causing that particular problem.
Since I realized that, I haven't bought any for awhile other than when I stumble across really good deals. Those I keep & play with for awhile and then try to trade or sell (or maybe not) .
Then I bought another one--and another--and another...that went on for some years.
I got into a rut for awhile where I'd sell/trade something and then find myself later buying something virtually identical to what I had sold/traded. It took me awhile to realize that I had pretty much exactly what I wanted already and that's what was causing that particular problem.
Since I realized that, I haven't bought any for awhile other than when I stumble across really good deals. Those I keep & play with for awhile and then try to trade or sell (or maybe not)
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