When do you begin to Triple-Tap?

[BerettaNut92]

9mm? .380? At what point do you begin to put three shots on target, just to be sure?

 

[Jesse H]

I'd just keep shooting until they stop, regardless of caliber.

 

[10-Ring]

I'd just keep shooting until they stop, regardless of caliber

...and pray you've got another mag

 

[Alvin Hammer]

Regardless of caliber, if two to the center of mass hasn't got the bad guy's attention one might wonder if more hits will have any greater affect. At this point one might go to the Mozambique Drill.

 

[Omaha-BeenGlockin]

Would that be the Terminator or Robocop???------lol

 

[Sven]

When your target is methed up and has two guns pointed at you.

 

[T.Stahl]

You mean triple-tap as a SOP? No matter how the target reacts to the first two hits?
Uh, I think if I had to expect that I'll need at least three hits to stop the thread, I'd choose a different caliber in the first place.
I guess I'd triple-tap from the start if I'd have to use a .22lr, but definitely not with a 9mm.

Or, if I'd triple-tap with a 9mm, I'd do so with any other caliber, too.

 

[Smoke]

Does 2 to the pump, 1 to the head count?

If he still gets up I think I'll just wet myself.

Actually though, shoot until the threat is stopped whatever the caliber. Start with a double tap, then repeat as necessary. Double, double, double.... ( I can do this 7 times before a mag change)

 

[Alvin Hammer]

Again, regardless of caliber, if the bad guy is not paying attention to the first two in the center of mass why do you think he'll pay any attention to further shots in the chest? The third shot goes into the eye/nose cavity. This area has no bone to deflect a round as it passes through the brain and takes out the upper part of the spine.

 

[Bainx]

If two shots center-of-mass don't do it, you might suspect that the goblin is wearing body armor. You know what to do next....

 

[Alvin Hammer]

Body armor will stop most pistol rounds. Some heavy winter jackets can cause hollow points to open up and slow down real fast. Better start shooting somewhere else.

 

[Blueduck]

My training (2 COM then 1 to head) was not so much concerned with body armor but rather drugs/psycho etc. Body's basically in shock at that point, adding to it won't help in time. If two has not gotten their attention it's time for the head was thier suggestion.

About the only thing I noticed our trainers and Chuck Taylor agreeing on

 

[WESHOOT2]

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I use the 'as-many-as-I-got-hitting-something' technique.

I figure eventually they're gonna get tired carrying all that extra weight.

I don't know many who have the mental discipline to: count shots; actually PERFORM a Mozambique drill; hit what they're aiming at under dire stress; practice correctly.

Me? I moved someplace safer

 

[Alvin Hammer]

Once one is in the middle of a shoot, moving to a safer place might not be an option.

Jeff Cooper challenged us to count our shots. Even with 7 round magazines it is very difficult to not run dry. We did our best because getting caught with one's slide locked open on the firing line was frowned upon. His point was quickly learned to reload at every chance.

The Mozambique Drill was actually developed in the heat of battle. A soldier armed with a handgun was being shot at by another soldier with an AK-47 - full automatic. So far the fellow with the AK was missing. The fellow with the handgun had hit the other one several times in the chest, but to no effect. He then took careful aim and placed one round in the eye socket bring the fight to a stop. This was done in the open, at close range, with the other guy firing full auto' right at him. "One cannot miss fast enough to catch up."

 

[para.2]

"When in doubt, empty the magazine."

 

[Alvin Hammer]

The problem with just emptying the magazine into the bad guy is the possibility there might be more than one bad guy. Again, if the bad guy has not been impressed with what you have shot him with, then you might want to move your shots to a more vulnerable location.

If you are confronted with half a dozen goblins in a parking lot. You may not have enough ammo to give each one two in the center of mass. One must keep thinking.

 

[LWCmdr45]

I have been taught (and, in turn, teach) that if a double-tap to center mass hasn't stopped an assailant, shoot for the hips. A hit in the hip area (usually unprotacted by armor), will cause a BG to lose his footing and is less likely to miss than a head shot.

Steve

 

[coonan357]

when in doubt ,empty it out ..

 

[M1911Owner]

What's a Mozambique drill?

 

[sm]

quote:
What's a Mozambique drill?
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2 COM then 1 to the head.

 

[sm]

WS2:
Yep I hear ya. I plan for the 2 COM 1 for the head...but just my luck BG will have a motorcyle helmet on.

Going for what's available...including femoral artery, carotid artery...stop only when threat stopped. Yeah extra mag(s) guns.

'it ain't cheating if it works-its ingenuity'

 

[4thHorseman]

As ong as the BG is a threat.
Don't stop squeezin' till they stop weezin'.

 

[Blackhawk]

When do you begin to Triple-Tap?

Immediately after the Double-Tap.

He who hesitates is lost...

 

[Tamara]

Apparently...

...I use the "WESHOOT2 Technique": I'd keep shooting until I run out of Bad Guys, Tamaras, or Ammunition.

 

[KY Moose]

When do you begin to Triple-Tap?

We were taught triple-taps in LEO pistol training. Three shots to center mass, step to the side (either left or right) and assess the situation.