just a thought....if somebody is knuckleheaded enough to be bumping around while robbing my house in the middle of the night, he has already failed in his endeavor. if he's silent, he must be good, and i guess he's earned my stuff. otherwise he will be actively hunted. offense is the best defense. my house is small, and i'm quite sure i could easily determine where the noise was coming from. i would splash some deer park on my face, listen closely for a few seconds and silently proceed. i myself can't abide the thought of sitting around being taken advantage of. i don't really buy into the idea of it not being smart or safe to leave my room. what's not smart or safe is trying to break into my house and steal my stuff.
When things go bump in the night...
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thumper723
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While I think it is a tactially dumb layout (but the wife had to have it)
Our BR has a door to the outside. Glass. Full Height. Double.
Did I mention it is a DUMB layout?
Anyways, I have a HiCap 1911 (13 rounds 45ACP) in the nightstand. I am further from the outside door, and can cover both the outside and inside doors without getting out of bed. Gun is kept Condition 1, since we do not have children nor do friends with children (beyong infant) come over with any regularity. Sweeping my house is a nightmare, as I have what they call a "Great Room" which is a Kitchen/Dining/Living room all in one seperated by a breakfast bar. Great defensive position with a good field of fire BEFORE someone comes thru the front door, but hard to clear if someone MAY be inside already.
During times of "Civil Unrest" (i.e. Hurricane Season) the bedroom gets augmented with a 12 gauge with 00 Buck.
Our BR has a door to the outside. Glass. Full Height. Double.
Did I mention it is a DUMB layout?
Anyways, I have a HiCap 1911 (13 rounds 45ACP) in the nightstand. I am further from the outside door, and can cover both the outside and inside doors without getting out of bed. Gun is kept Condition 1, since we do not have children nor do friends with children (beyong infant) come over with any regularity. Sweeping my house is a nightmare, as I have what they call a "Great Room" which is a Kitchen/Dining/Living room all in one seperated by a breakfast bar. Great defensive position with a good field of fire BEFORE someone comes thru the front door, but hard to clear if someone MAY be inside already.
During times of "Civil Unrest" (i.e. Hurricane Season) the bedroom gets augmented with a 12 gauge with 00 Buck.
AStone
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Like others, I'd stay in the bedroom
Nothing I have is worth going out.
I have a solid-core exterior door with a deadbolt lock on the upstairs room in which I sleep, and an interior window lets me see the rest of the house from there.
From there, I can dial 911 and let professionals deal with the intruder. (It's just not in my job description.)
Now, of course, should said intruder manage to hack through that door, then all hell breaks loose from a 12 ga & 9mm.
Speaking of solid core doors, I'm tired. Time to retire to the safe space for some Z's.
Nem
Nothing I have is worth going out.
I have a solid-core exterior door with a deadbolt lock on the upstairs room in which I sleep, and an interior window lets me see the rest of the house from there.
From there, I can dial 911 and let professionals deal with the intruder. (It's just not in my job description.)
Now, of course, should said intruder manage to hack through that door, then all hell breaks loose from a 12 ga & 9mm.
Speaking of solid core doors, I'm tired. Time to retire to the safe space for some Z's.
Nem
I can access my sig 220 immediately, but if given a little extra time, I would get the Vang Comp Rem 870. I agree, I would not do a room to room search.
Since my house is a recent construction, the walls are just sheetrock and hollow core doors, so I will just fire 00 buckshot through each wall, and then go back to sleep.
Since my house is a recent construction, the walls are just sheetrock and hollow core doors, so I will just fire 00 buckshot through each wall, and then go back to sleep.
Phyphor
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Oh goody
You probably need to re-assess that particular position. Leaving the room to defend your family is one thing, leaving it to defend possessions is quite another. Not sure how Delaware handles shootings like that, but in the wrong place, you could very well end up in court, or even jail, depending on the circumstances.
If that sucker is dumb enough to try to get into the room you're holding down, you can pop him and probably not get in TOO much trouble (although, given how lawsuit happy these days are?) ..but I'm not sure how a jury is gonna look at someone actively hunting down the threat.
Not to mention, he could be armed himself. And anyone breaking into people's houses when they're at home is probably not gifted with an excess of brains, so you might just have a firefight on your hands.
You probably need to re-assess that particular position. Leaving the room to defend your family is one thing, leaving it to defend possessions is quite another. Not sure how Delaware handles shootings like that, but in the wrong place, you could very well end up in court, or even jail, depending on the circumstances.
If that sucker is dumb enough to try to get into the room you're holding down, you can pop him and probably not get in TOO much trouble (although, given how lawsuit happy these days are?) ..but I'm not sure how a jury is gonna look at someone actively hunting down the threat.
Not to mention, he could be armed himself. And anyone breaking into people's houses when they're at home is probably not gifted with an excess of brains, so you might just have a firefight on your hands.
Phyphor
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As for myself....
I ain't touching any of the semi-auto rifles I have. Overpenetration issues aside, could you just SEE the headlines?
I'm grabbing the 870 and hunkering down in my room. If he tries to force entry, he's gonna get blasted. The only other gun I keep unlocked is the Glock 19, but then again, if I wind up emptying the 870 and having to go for the pistol, then I'm having a *REALLY* bad day.....
I ain't touching any of the semi-auto rifles I have. Overpenetration issues aside, could you just SEE the headlines?
I'm grabbing the 870 and hunkering down in my room. If he tries to force entry, he's gonna get blasted. The only other gun I keep unlocked is the Glock 19, but then again, if I wind up emptying the 870 and having to go for the pistol, then I'm having a *REALLY* bad day.....
Inner Monkey
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Make mine an 1100 w/ 00 Buck.
Rotorflyr
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I'm not sure what I'd take with me, but I'd be armed for sure with anywhere from a 9mm to a .357 to a .45
Haven't picked up another shottie yet but plan to soon and that would be waiting with my wife and her 9mm and what ever I don't take with me (not to mention the phone she will be on, talking to the cops)
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How do you know for sure the noisey knucklehead is alone? There could be a quiet knucklehead working with him/her and while your focused on noisey knucklehead, quiet knucklehead shoots you in the back........Sorry, no tv/stero/whatever (not counting family) is worth that risk, not to mention the legal aspects of "hunting down" the bad guy.
Manedwolf
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That's why the best place for your cellphone charging cradle is your nightstand. They can't cut that line, and it's unlikely that they have a jammer.
I haven't even had a landline in years, I have a docking station for the cell in my bedroom that makes other phones go through it. Why would I want to pay $40+ a month for a phone that rings where I might not be at the time?
Manedwolf
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But what good does that do? With doors like that, double glass doors, even with shutters, that room is likely going to be one of the first to be compromised by a hurricane. Those nice glass doors will shatter and the bedroom will become a tornado of flying glass and debris. You'd want to retreat to a stronger interior room anyway, so why not just keep the shotgun there? Basic unfortunate reality...in a strong hurricane, any room with double glass doors is likely GOING to be a total loss. Consider it to be like an open patio, and make sure the door from the hall opens inward towards the bedroom (wind pressure will force it closed against the frame, not punch it open) and can be secured with a strong bolt. If you're hit by a strong hurricane, it's going to now be an exterior door, with all that implies.
There's a reason why OLDER Florida houses tended to have things like front doors that opened outward (wind pressure) and older sliding-glass doors in a heavy frame, placed on an "L" in the back of the usually cinderblock outer wall structure so as not to be facing dead east or west to get the winds...
People in the 1950's and 1960's cinderblock ranch homes were a lot more secure, generally, after Andrew and Wilma, while the newer frame houses were compromised, and, if still liveable, often had serious damage that would let roaming jackals get easy access.
Same here. Mine is loaded with #4 buckshot. The 1911 is nearby if I feel I need something that shoots faster.
I too have gotten rid of my standard phone line. A cell phone takes care of all my communication needs, and as stated an intruder can't disable it. The only downside is that 911 can't automatically pinpoint your location, so if you're hit you'd better save enough breath to tell the dispather your address.
retnav05
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Smith model 19. Anyone who can take 5 .357 rounds in the torso and still feel like emptying out my house is a better man than me!
romma
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Kel-Tec
P-32...
P-32...
Otony
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I have two parents with alzheimers in the house. Wife and baby stay in the bedroom with a Mossberg, cell phone, and Inova T3.
I get the loverly job o' traversing the domocile wit me S&W 10 (2" barrel) in hand, accompanied by a Streamlight TL3.
In actuality, due to their aliments, we get one or the other of my parents up and about often. I sleep lightly, as does my wife (baby is two months old), so we often have a real need to figure out if bumps are friend or foe....fast.
Certainly keeps me on my toes. Oh yeah, big reinforced pockets in my robe for slipping Rosco away quick like.
sigh
I get the loverly job o' traversing the domocile wit me S&W 10 (2" barrel) in hand, accompanied by a Streamlight TL3.
In actuality, due to their aliments, we get one or the other of my parents up and about often. I sleep lightly, as does my wife (baby is two months old), so we often have a real need to figure out if bumps are friend or foe....fast.
Certainly keeps me on my toes. Oh yeah, big reinforced pockets in my robe for slipping Rosco away quick like.
sigh
mordechaianiliewicz
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The only way I leave my room is for my non-existent heirs. Because I don't have a kid, I would stay in my room with my Mossberg 590 w/ 8 shells of Federal "00" buck, and a Ruger p-95 loaded with one mag of fmj with two mags of JHPs (one in the gun, one nxt to the fmj).
If for some crazy reason I had to clear the house (I've done the clearing drill at night, and the truth is I really respect cops), I'd put my Ruger on it's holster, and have the shottie in my hands. (If I go through 8 shells of "00" I have BIG problems), so no reloads for it (just switch to the pistol).
If for some crazy reason I had to clear the house (I've done the clearing drill at night, and the truth is I really respect cops), I'd put my Ruger on it's holster, and have the shottie in my hands. (If I go through 8 shells of "00" I have BIG problems), so no reloads for it (just switch to the pistol).
threefeathers
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I have a large house, 3200 sqft, 4 generations live there from 86 year old Grand mom to 8 month old little girl. Son and his wife are on one side of the house, he has a CZ 40 with night light, I have a Colt Det Spec. We have a big dog who is extremly protective who hears every thing in the neighborhood. We have a good neighborhood association and share numbers. Everyone on our block is retired military, FBI, or CIA. Our dog will have gone absoutely nuts and will be eating his prey or be dead by now. I dial 911, yell to son, my wife calls immediate neighbors. They will be armed with shotguns quickly. Once I find my son is ok we will wait for the perp(s) to move into us.
Ala Dan
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My HD cover gun is a Remington 12 GA 870 Marine magnum stoked
with #6 shot, and backed by a few #4 buckshot, as a first line of
defense; then backed by a West German .45 caliber SIG-SAUER
P220A and a S&W 2.5" model 66-4 .357 magnum. The SIG's load
is 8 rounds of Hornady's 200 grain TAP JHP's, and the magnums
cylinder is full of Speer 125 grain JHP's.
with #6 shot, and backed by a few #4 buckshot, as a first line of
defense; then backed by a West German .45 caliber SIG-SAUER
P220A and a S&W 2.5" model 66-4 .357 magnum. The SIG's load
is 8 rounds of Hornady's 200 grain TAP JHP's, and the magnums
cylinder is full of Speer 125 grain JHP's.
pilot teacher
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Mossberg 500 00 Buck
Taurus PT 145 230 Gr. Federal Hydroshocks.
Then I'd dump the worthless pile of pig poo in a lake with alligators. Lots of them around here.
Taurus PT 145 230 Gr. Federal Hydroshocks.
Then I'd dump the worthless pile of pig poo in a lake with alligators. Lots of them around here.
pilot teacher
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Mossberg 500 00 Buck
Taurus PT 145 230 Gr. Federal Hydroshocks.
Then I'd dump the worthless pile of pig poo in a lake with alligators. Lots of them around here.
Taurus PT 145 230 Gr. Federal Hydroshocks.
Then I'd dump the worthless pile of pig poo in a lake with alligators. Lots of them around here.
nucstl1
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Sleeping on the 3rd floor
Call 911, stay put, if they cross the point of no return, they meet my usp.45.
Call 911, stay put, if they cross the point of no return, they meet my usp.45.
Gelicious
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I have a 4 year old daughter in a bedroom right next to mine. First thing to do is have the wifey on 911 asap while im using every muscle in my body at full force to get my ultra bright tac light and Springfield XD-45 loaded with Hornady T.A.P ammo (carry) off the nightstand and getting myself into her bedroom. My wife would not be left undefended because the two rooms are side by side and i would be perfectly setup between the two rooms. The wife has the .357 at her reach too. Let the guy take our things all he wants, my renter's insurance will replace anything taken... if anyone steps into the hallway to our rooms they will be met with any one of the 14 rounds of .45acp.
ddj8052
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Primary Mosberg 590a1 loaded with Winchester Ranger 12g 00 buck.
If time permits I will also grab one of many pistols in a Blade tech paddle just in case the Mossy stops shooting for any reason (1911, XD9, Ruger GP100, Taurus 85ti, or S&W625 I feel any of these are going to get the job done).
I will be leaving my room because I have a daughter in the room next door to mine. Her door is further away from the living room at the far end of a L shaped hallway. My door is right at the elbow. I can take a comanding view of the hallway from that position and make sure no one is going to get to my daughters room. She keeps the dog in her room at night so if some one gets in there with out me hearing it, they are going to be in a world of hurt.
If time permits I will also grab one of many pistols in a Blade tech paddle just in case the Mossy stops shooting for any reason (1911, XD9, Ruger GP100, Taurus 85ti, or S&W625 I feel any of these are going to get the job done).
I will be leaving my room because I have a daughter in the room next door to mine. Her door is further away from the living room at the far end of a L shaped hallway. My door is right at the elbow. I can take a comanding view of the hallway from that position and make sure no one is going to get to my daughters room. She keeps the dog in her room at night so if some one gets in there with out me hearing it, they are going to be in a world of hurt.
CarbineKid
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My house is set up with my bedroom on one side of the hall, my oldest(4) on the other side, and my youngest(6 months) is in the middle. I have run thru this scenario a million times. Giving the layout of my hosue IF anyones in the house its going to get violent real fast. Theres no where to go but into one of the bedrooms, so Im taking the slime out before he can get to the kids. Now if the noise is coming from the cellar, thats a whole new ball game. Thats when I defend the high ground and wait for the police.
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How do you know for sure the noisey knucklehead is alone? There could be a quiet knucklehead working with him/her and while your focused on noisey knucklehead, quiet knucklehead shoots you in the back........Sorry, no tv/stero/whatever (not counting family) is worth that risk, not to mention the legal aspects of "hunting down" the bad guy.
i never mentioned being driven by a concern for my possessions. if somebody is stupid enough to break and enter MY house, that's plenty of reason for me to make sure they never do it again. my home's my sanctuary, my family has been living in it for about 70 years, and nobody has any business being in it uninvited and with criminal intentions. that's reason enough for me to leave my room. sure it's dangerous, and that's why i practice.
as far as 'legal aspects' are concerned....i think any intruder in anybody's home should be put down, period, and i really don't care what any law has to say about it. if you think that's naive, or silly, or senseless, tell me what you would do if your state enacted legislation that, say, made it illegal to use force to defend your home until you phoned the police, no matter what the circumstance was. would you be fumbling for your cell phone instead of your handgun while somebody was entering your kids' room? some laws are notoriously stupid....disagree?
How do you know for sure the noisey knucklehead is alone? There could be a quiet knucklehead working with him/her and while your focused on noisey knucklehead, quiet knucklehead shoots you in the back........Sorry, no tv/stero/whatever (not counting family) is worth that risk, not to mention the legal aspects of "hunting down" the bad guy.
i never mentioned being driven by a concern for my possessions. if somebody is stupid enough to break and enter MY house, that's plenty of reason for me to make sure they never do it again. my home's my sanctuary, my family has been living in it for about 70 years, and nobody has any business being in it uninvited and with criminal intentions. that's reason enough for me to leave my room. sure it's dangerous, and that's why i practice.
as far as 'legal aspects' are concerned....i think any intruder in anybody's home should be put down, period, and i really don't care what any law has to say about it. if you think that's naive, or silly, or senseless, tell me what you would do if your state enacted legislation that, say, made it illegal to use force to defend your home until you phoned the police, no matter what the circumstance was. would you be fumbling for your cell phone instead of your handgun while somebody was entering your kids' room? some laws are notoriously stupid....disagree?
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