When will Illinois be normal?

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I think the key is that people have to get out and do stuff. If they don't then it's never going to change. If you're a gun owner in lllinois and you're not "active" in showing a positive image, etc then you can't complain. I REALLY like the "gunssavelives.com" stuff. Everytime I see those signs on the interstate, etc they make me smile. The hardest part is convincing the average chicagoan . . .if we could just start convincing people up there then I think it would slowly change. I keep hoping that the people will tire of all the Daley corruption in chicago and things will swing back towards center. My son and daughter (21 and 22) have both just recently started showing interest in shooting. In addition to going to the range they are now NRA members and I'm hoping to eventually undo all the BS fed to them by the Illinois State colleges.

Just my .02

Regards,
Dave
 
Illinois,like other states,will only reclaim the right to CCW by strong grassroots efforts,which I can say that I don't get involved enough with:eek: . I do call and write my elected officials,and not just on firearm legislature. If Topinka gets in office and if there is a strong enough push,I believe she will pass CCW if she thinks it can get her enough votes next time around.I also think she will shut it down if she believes pandering to the liberals is politically healthy for her.:mad:
 
Just curious . .have you seen anything for Topinka that indicates she supports CCW? I was hoping for a much better candidate than her but she's better than the alternative I guess.
 
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If tomorrow Chicago was moved from Illinois to Indiana,
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Aaarrrrgh! What an awful idea! How can you even say such a thing?!!?
 
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Just curious . .have you seen anything for Topinka that indicates she supports CCW? I was hoping for a much better candidate than her but she's better than the alternative I guess.

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I have had e-mail contact with her campaign people and they assure me that she is pro 2A, they also say she has always been rated "A" by the NRA. I haven't checked on this because I figure she is the best we have in this race. She is not playing up to gun owners but that could be that she doesn't want to ailenate some of her more liberal supporters if she can avoid the subject.
I think some people are having problems with her because she won the primary against one stronger 2A supporter and one who was a very strong 2A supporter. I didn't vote for her in the primary either but that is over now and I will vote for her as the best of two.
My bottom line: She was not my first choice but I can't see her standing arm in arm with Mayor Daley screaming for more gun control like our present Gov. Gun-ban-Rod. Anyone neutral on gun control will be better than the gun hater we have now. Jim.
 
One of the more leftist columnists, Greeley by name, suggested a while back that America's largest cities should be states unto themselves. IOW, separate from their state and be autonomous.

I like it, and please start with Chicago. I'm all for Illinois being freed from the enormous cancerous growth on the lake. It's WAY more trouble than it's worth.

Illinois wouldn't be a bad place to live if only we didn't have Chicago on our backs like a 900 gorilla. I could put up with the barbarous weather a lot easier if I didn't have to see that smirking little creep mayor on TV every single day.
 
Is Morton Grove in Illinois ?
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Yes it is. MG is just as strict on guns as Chicago. MG is a north/northwest suburb. I haven't been up there in a few years but it was a nice little town.

I see Topinka as a lesser threat to our 2A rights. Blago is lying again, he's trying to play up to the gun owners in southern IL because he knows he can't win without their vote. He'll lie to get the vote and then stab folks in their back.

You guys don't understand, in Chicago when it comes time to vote for the mayor, they have guys who "persuade" people to vote a certain way...:rolleyes:
 
I am desperately trying to escape from the Peoples Republic of IL right now. I am applying to schools in PA, TX. FL, WA, and IN. I am tired of IL and the fact that even my friends who own guns think that CCW is a bad idea.

As Jeff White stated some people think that you can get a permit for a gun because they saw it in a movie. Others think that you can carry if your a private security guard or investigator. I tell them possibly while you are working but not after work.

Others did not even know it was possible to get a permit. I saw it in the movies but didnt think it was possible. A lot of IL people do not know that other states allow normal people (NON LEOs) to carry guns. I was one of these people. I figured the permit thing was that most of the characters in movies with them were private investigators.

Either way I am so very tired of things here in IL. Our state is legislated out of Chicago. My parents do not understand my intense desire to leave IL. Guns are not the only factor but a major one. I cannot tolerate the crap I get from people here simply for owning a gun or believing the 2nd Amendment is not about the National Guard.

I am going to go to bed and dream about living in a free state.
 
Tecumseh, IL is a nice place to be FROM. :rolleyes: Get out while you still can, before they close the boarders with all those rogue states like IN, MO & TN. :rolleyes: Being from downstate i.e. not Chicago, we got slighted most of the time. Chi'town has always known what's best for the state.:fire: The states you list are all more appealing than IL. I've been gone for 15yrs and every time I go back to visit, it just pi**** me off. Good luck and I hope you get into a school outside the PRIL.
 
Recently posted here that two LEOs were caught taking home full auto weapons. That is just the tip of the iceberg. Most folks with money and high positions or in a position to do so, already have what you would like to have. But that puts you on an equal footing and they will not have that. So....exposure...thats what it takes before things get normal there. Or worse.
 
Yes it will be nice to say "I am FROM Illinois." I am applying all over and hopefully the people I meet will believe the stories about the hell-hole that Illinois has become simply due to the state government.
 
Texas... in 20 years? How dare you! Never!

The previous poster was right. The state gov doesnt have time to get even the most basic things done, and that is for the best. When you have a bunch of pompus jerks sitting around ALL YEAR, of course they are gonna get creative with the laws they write.

In addition to Dallas and Houston, texas has San Antonio, which in addition to H-town, is where I call home. I am not sure, but I know SA is one of the top 10 biggest cities in the US.

Lemme do some research...

According to the Census Bureau, Texas has 7 of America's top 50 biggest cities. That includes 3 of the Top 10.

Yet we have very few crazies. Lemme give an example.

A popular musical performer among people my age threw a sold out show in Austin, the Berkely of Texas. He made disparaging comments about Texicans (think Dixie Chicks), and was promptly blacklisted from the city.
 
I live in the peoples republik of illinios myself, and I HATE it. The family had the misfourtune of moving here several generations ago and our farm is here, so here I am.

Our little town (pop 900) used to be nice when I was of school age, but now is being overwhelmed by poor trash moving down in waves from chicago, via Kankakee. No jobs, bad aditudes, looser kids going no where. The local FFA needs to change to FWCA (future welfare recipients of America). My mom teaches in the local district, and wants me to move out before my kids are of school age.

There are many of these do-nothings living on welfare for free in our state, thanks to our King dailey and his liberal machine in the city-state of chicago. Nothing will change here untill the septic sore to our north is pushed out of the state. They don't want us downstaters, except as the but of their jokes and for our taxes, and we don't want them. Someone needs to define chicago, the state of, and make it so. Only then can this man ever be truly free from the welfare masses and the uber liberal fools that give this once great state a bad name.

Wyoming looks SO good from here. sigh. :(
 
I always tell people that if it weren't for Chicago, IL would be a great state to live in...:uhoh:

Chicago has one saving grace: the food there is incredible. There are foods you get in Chicago that you can't get anywhere else.:cool:
 
I agree about the food. Chicago has the best food in the country. I dont think people truly understand how good the food is here.

But I am applying to Indiana University and UNLV. I will hopefully become a student in IU soon and get my CCW permit. I am hoping to do this by January.
 
Well....I think everything relevant to Life in the Great State of Illinois has already been said in this thread, but I'll chime in anyhow. I'm a transplanted Hoosier, who moved to IL to work 36 years ago, for economic reasons. Forty miles east is a whole different world, and not just from the standpoint of guns. I live in the Great Shooting Desert that is East Central Illinois. It's not merely the state's oppressive laws re: the 2nd Amendment, it's the relative lack of shooting sports and activities, unless one is willing to drive quite a ways.

The solutions? It's all been said here: join the NRA (if you haven't already), get active at the state/local level, badger the politicians, help another individual get into guns and the shooting sports whenever possible..... I say that, but when the better half retires, we've already talked about moving back to God's Country. I'm not sure that's far enough. Illinois looms over Indiana like a tower; the Chicago politicians whimper and whine about illegal guns coming from IN; it's ridiculous.
 
But I am applying to Indiana University and UNLV. I will hopefully become a student in IU soon and get my CCW permit. I am hoping to do this by January.
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If you want something more gun friendly, apply at Purdue. IU is about as left wing as it gets. Besides, you'll get a better education (but the "wildlife" isn't as good). IU was voted the #1 party school, not much good for anything else. I may have a slight prejudice as I went to Purdue.
 
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