Where to Buy? What's in Stock? 1860's at Bud's for $271.

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What are some of the alternative places to buy revolvers that might actually have some models in stock when other places don't have many to offer?

I'd like to compile a list of both favorites and alternative places to look for revolvers that are in stock.

For instance, there's some Traditions Pietta 1860's in stock at Bud's Guns at a price of $271.
They come with a 1 year Traditions warranty and the price is lower than Cabela's. --->>> https://www.budsgunshop.com/product_info.php/products_id/98680/traditions+fr18602+1860+army+44+bp+8
 
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expat_alaska said:
These 3 dealers have a few:

https://www.midwayusa.com/s?userSearchQuery=black+powder+revolvers&uac=true&userItemsPerPage=48

https://www.oldsouthfirearms.com/revolvers.aspx

https://www.dixiegunworks.com/index...1/category_chain/312,318,321/name/Percussion/
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I didn't know that Pietta offered some of the models listed at Old South.
They have 9 Traditions Dance revolvers in stock with the old silver finish in the white. --->>> https://www.oldsouthfirearms.com/DanceBrothersRevolverOldSilverFinish.aspx

Some 1851's that are out of stock had special grips including imitation stag, ivory and black laminate.
Iy says they can be back ordered but I wonder if they can actually get them.
 
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With Northern Italy being hit hard with the pandemic, I wonder how that has affected operations with Pietta, Uberti, and Pedersoli. It obviously has had an impact on production, for whatever reasons, as many regular suppliers here in the US show that many of their offerings are out-of-stock. Almost everything at EMF (which is owned by Pietta these days) is out-of-stock. I think it is going to be lean times for quite a while, and when/if production resumes, don't expect any sales on revolvers. I think the last time I saw any dealers here offering sales was at least 3 months ago. If I had 20/20 hindsight back then I might have taken a bunch out of savings and stockpiled some 1851 Navies and 1860 Armies of various manufacture as they are the most commonly sold replicas, and "hoarded" them for sale at a premium price. I don't think I would have traded them for TP though.

Supposedly, Cabela's has some revolvers in inventory, but since their buyout by BPS I really don't go there, as I did in the past.

https://www.cabelas.com/catalog/browse/black-powder-revolvers/_/N-1115735/Ns-CATEGORY_SEQ_567338580

Jim
 
arcticap said:
What are some of the alternative places to buy revolvers that might actually have some models in stock when other places don't have many to offer?

I'd like to compile a list of both favorites and alternative places to look for revolvers that are in stock.

For instance, there's some Traditions Pietta 1860's in stock at Bud's Guns at a price of $271.
They come with a 1 year Traditions warranty and the price is lower than Cabela's. --->>> https://www.budsgunshop.com/product_info.php/products_id/98680/traditions+fr18602+1860+army+44+bp+8[/QU
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I would stick with well proven Uberti or Pietta. They have the best track record for quality, affordability and parts availability.
 
stephen cockerham said:
traditions has the lowest quality specs of anyone in the business I boughta traditions stainless steel 1858 REM. and the adjustable sight blade fell off out in the grass while I was trying to sight it in. luckily I had already found out it couldnt be sighted in they were so far off it was the worst 375 dollars I ever spent
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Sorry to hear that your Pietta was a lemon.
They're Piettas just like any other Pietta, except they have a 1 year Traditions warranty.
Someone on the MLF had a new 1851 Navy that had a broken handspring.
After Traditions received the gun, it took them about 4 weeks to fix it and ship it back.
I don't work for Traditions, but they're located in my state about 40 miles away.
Even some brand new Ruger Old Army revolvers were lemons.
Don't ask me how I know. ;)

Railshot posted about his warranty repair:
"Final report on this one.
UPS just dropped it off and all is good again.
The paperwork that came with it from Traditions confirms that the had spring was broken and they replaced it.
Actually quite pleased with the whole event, so Traditions is still ok by me." --->>> https://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/...otate-when-cocking.113561/page-4#post-1559794
 
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arcticap said:
Sorry to hear that your Pietta was a lemon.
They're Piettas just like any other Pietta, except they have a 1 year Traditions warranty.
Someone on the MLF had a new 1851 Navy that had a broken handspring.
After Traditions received the gun, it took them about 4 weeks to fix it and ship it back.
I don't work for Traditions, but they're located in my state about 40 miles away.
Even some brand new Ruger Old Army revolvers were lemons.
Don't ask me how I know. ;)

Railshot posted about his warranty repair:
"Final report on this one.
UPS just dropped it off and all is good again.
The paperwork that came with it from Traditions confirms that the had spring was broken and they replaced it.
Actually quite pleased with the whole event, so Traditions is still ok by me." --->>> https://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/...otate-when-cocking.113561/page-4#post-1559794[
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stephen cockerham said:
yes I understand that pietra makes 90% of black powder revolvers on the market including if im not mistaken uberti I know they are forged in the same factory but each individual brand has their own specs that the guns are to be built under and traditions has the lowest or one of the lowest spec requirements of most of them everyone has their own likes and dislikes one of my dislikes happens tobe traditions they are along the pathof conneticut valley arms (CVA)
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One issue of all of them is tuning. Not all are "out of the box" suitable. There are things that need to be addressed on a bunch of them. I've been lucky and majority of mine have been good right out of the box including my very first one that is pushing 47 years old and has not needed even an original part changed. Some expect perfection but the manufactures regardless of their machining do treat these as a hobby item that should function and go bang without exploding. I've had to ream cylinder bore to get proper projectile to barrel fit. I've had to crown barrels to get straight shooting. I've had to clean up and polish forcing cone to improve accuracy. All these things are the nature of the beasts. The biggest issue I've run across is those that just want the easy way out and won't do the research and learn how to do the tuning. Even modern weapons that are more out of the box reliable require some tuning. Typically primarily which ammo they eat or trigger pull. Still it takes research and trial and error to get your shooter to function on a consistent and accurate level.
 
stephen cockerham said:
yes I understand that pietra makes 90% of black powder revolvers on the market including if im not mistaken uberti I know they are forged in the same factory but each individual brand has their own specs that the guns are to be built under and traditions has the lowest or one of the lowest spec requirements of most of them everyone has their own likes and dislikes one of my dislikes happens tobe traditions they are along the pathof conneticut valley arms (CVA)
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I don't know where you got this info but you are far from correct. Traditions buys their guns from Pietta and does the one-year warranty with their inspection process. To me it is not very good as I have bought Pietta guns from Cabela's that were better than the one Traditions 1851 Navy I purchased from Old South Firearms a few years ago, which I have since sold with caveats to the new owner. Pietta and Uberti are separate entities, are NOT manufactured in the same factory. I would suggest you better educate yourself before making pronouncements like this. It also might be better if you corrected your punctuation and sentence structure, and quit posting as if you are informally texting a friend. Things like that are very evident here.

Regards,

Jim
 
expat_alaska said:
I don't know where you got this info but you are far from correct. Traditions buys their guns from Pietta and does the one-year warranty with their inspection process. To me it is not very good as I have bought Pietta guns from Cabela's that were better than the one Traditions 1851 Navy I purchased from Old South Firearms a few years ago, which I have since sold with caveats to the new owner. Pietta and Uberti are separate entities, are NOT manufactured in the same factory. I would suggest you better educate yourself before making pronouncements like this. It also might be better if you corrected your punctuation and sentence structure, and quit posting as if you are informally texting a friend. Things like that are very evident here.

Regards,

Jim
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Blah blah blah.
 
expat_alaska said:
I don't know where you got this info but you are far from correct. Traditions buys their guns from Pietta and does the one-year warranty with their inspection process. To me it is not very good as I have bought Pietta guns from Cabela's that were better than the one Traditions 1851 Navy I purchased from Old South Firearms a few years ago, which I have since sold with caveats to the new owner. Pietta and Uberti are separate entities, are NOT manufactured in the same factory. I would suggest you better educate yourself before making pronouncements like this. It also might be better if you corrected your punctuation and sentence structure, and quit posting as if you are informally texting a friend. Things like that are very evident here.

Regards,

Jim[
skeeterfogger said:
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there is no reason to get testy all I said was I dont like traditions I have had bad experiences with them you seem to be getting carried away. and once upon a time an Italian black powder revolver started at the same armoury or forge whether this is still true I have no idea. but you are awefully sensitive for a grown man
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Pedersoli seems to be quoting something on the order of 3 month lead time to ship to dealers these days. Yes, covid has been tough on them, but they are really trying to pull themselves up by the bootstraps and get going again, just like the rest of us.

BTW if you want a quality shooter, the Pedersoli 1858 is a good one, and their new custom version promises to be even better. Not cheap, but for a serious target shooter they're a very viable option.
 
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Pedersoli seems to be quoting something on the order of 3 month lead time to ship to dealers these days.
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Pedersoli is part owner of the Italian Firearms Group in Amarillo, Texas which is a distributor for several Italian gun makers.
They helped form the group so that they could have products warehoused in the USA for quicker distribution.
Some models may be in stock there which is where dealers call to check on product availability.
The IFG companies can saved money by having goods shipped there in bulk instead of shipping directly to individual dealers.
And they share warehouse and distribution costs. --->>> http://www.italianfirearmsgroup.com
 
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arcticap said:
Pedersoli is part owner of the Italian Firearms Group in Amarillo, Texas which is a distributor for several Italian gun makers.
They helped form the group so that they could have products warehoused in the USA for quicker distribution.
Some models may be in stock there which is where dealers call to check on product availability.
The IFG companies can saved money by having goods shipped there in bulk instead of shipping directly to individual dealers.
And they share warehouse and distribution costs. --->>> http://www.italianfirearmsgroup.com
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the Italian muzzleloading industry has come a long way and I stand corrected at one time I was informed there was one blackpowder foundry/armoury in Italy and the same people made them all jut to different specs per different customer meaning pietra had their specs, uberti had theirs, euroarms had theirs, etc. etc. I guess with the CNC milling and advances in stamping equip they may only have to get barrel stock from one place even if that
 
Two more big sites: Taylors and Cimmaron.

If you buy BOTH a gun and cartridge converter cylinder (for shooting modern ammunition brass cartridges in a percussion revolver), then Taylors will fit the cylinder to the gun free before shipping it (if you ask them to).

This is a good way to obtain a modern type revolver without registering or using an FFL.
It is as simple and easy as buying a pair of socks on the internet. No red tape or registration or licenses.
 
Bud's 1860's are now out of stock.

Deer Creek's revolver page includes 4 or possibly 5 new old stock guns:--->>> http://www.deercreekproducts.net/store/c32/Black_Powder_Revolvers.html

One - Palmetto 1858 Stainless Steel/Target .44 Cal for $289
Two - ASM 1858 Remington Bison Brass .44 Cal for $299
One - ASM 1858 Remington Brass for $229

The ASM Buffalo is not a bargain price considering that Old South Firearms sells the Pietta brass Buffalo for $269 when it's in stock.
At least Deer Creek sells ASM nipples for it.
Even though buying a discontinued Palmetto may be considered risky, where else would anyone find a New Stainless Remington Target for $289?

The price of one other Deer Creek revolver that's for sale suggests that it's also an ASM but the maker's name is not specified.
One - 1851 Colt Brass .44 Cal for $199 --->>> http://www.deercreekproducts.net/store/p1562/1851_Colt_Brass_.44_Cal_-_G51012.html














 
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