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One that you shoot good with a light attached.
I’m in agreement with 9mm epiphany here. I don’t favor the 1911 as a “primary,” in the waking-up scenario. I do have a 4506 and it’s an amazing full size 45 platform. Therefore the 4566 should be the bees knees. But the P220 is no slouch.Staying within your choices:
1. Remington - I would never again keep a 1911 platform as my bedside gun. I like to have a little more cushion before the first shot that a thumb safety and I don't want to have to chamber a round if i went Condition 2. If I did go with a 1911, it wouldn't be the Remington...their CQ has been inconsistent
2. Beretta - I like the Beretta and it has the "Rainbow 6 - John Smith/Ding Chavez" coolness factor. I have a Landon tuned Beretta 96 which I shoot pretty well. But the rotating barrel just feels strange...especially when shot one-handed.
3. S&W - My experience has been mostly with the full sized 4506 and I thought it was an excellent bedside gun...since size/weight doesn't matter in that usage. The 4566 should be handier with it's slightly shorter barrel. The only downside that I found with the 4506 platform is that it felt slightly oversized in my hand...much more so than the 4006 TSW; so my advice is to make sure you handle it before you decide.
4. SIG - I am bias toward the SIG 220 because I carried it for many years in LE and while traveling around the country teaching. Mine had a tuned action that Bruce Gray couldn't improve on (at least that what he said). It is comfortable, accurate, and reliable with enough trigger travel in DA for that extra "fudge factor" while coming awake. My recommendation for a bedside 220 would be a 220ST model (a lot like the 4566 in size) with the stainless steel frame. It isn't in the SIG catalog, but it is still in production for the CA market
It appears obvious that you either misread what I wrote about not using a 1911 as a bedside gun or you misunderstood it. There was no criticism of the presence of a thumb safety, but being able to flip off the safety instinctively would certainly be a contributing factor that I considered.Flipping a safety off to me is just as instinctive as aiming. To me criticizing a gun because it has a safety is pretty weak.
EDC choices are often limited by the practical ability to carry something - so it's typically a compromise between the best option and the most practical option. I don't feel the need to limit my self-defense at home if I have a better option than my EDC.I'm of the opinion that your bedside gun should be the one you have been carrying all day. If it is good enough to defend you in public, then it should be good enough to defend you at home.
That may have been true in the past, but in recent years it is no longer the case.EDC choices are often limited by the practical ability to carry something - so it's typically a compromise between the best option and the most practical option. I don't feel the need to limit my self-defense at home if I have a better option than my EDC.
That may have been true in the past, but in recent years it is no longer the case.
My Sig P365 rides in my pocket, 10+1, all day, every day, in a pocket holster. When it comes out of the pocket it goes on the night stand, along with an extra 17 round mag. If I need more than that, then there is a carbine nearby.
Even so, something with a fatter grip like a Glock 17/19 (or 320, or M&P, or XD or whichever comparable duty/compact size you want) shoots much better in my hands. Faster times, tighter groups, better recoil management, plus a longer barrel for a little more velocity (for however much that might matter, debatable to be sure) and longer sight picture. Plus I like a WML on my night stand gun as an option alongside a handheld flashlight
All potential advantages that have nothing to do with just slapping a longer mag on it.
I prefer to keep the nightstand gun as a very similar type to my CCW (trigger type, thumb safety, etc) but do feel there’s an advantage to using a larger gun, so why not have it around if I’m not needing to carry it.
All that said, I’ve been carrying my Glock 21 lately since it’s fall and I’ve been shooting it and it’s not that hard to conceal with a good holster and a flannel. So right now the bedside and CCW are the same, though the Glock 19 is around if I want to go with just a T-shirt some days.
So my current beside pistol is a .40 S&W 4006TSW CHP with a light. Perfectl;y fine and more than adequate for the job.
But I was thinking about a bigger bullet (at less velocity) instead.
My choices:
Sig P220 after a bit of trigger work and night sights by Sig
Beretta PX4 full size with night sights after trigger work by Langdon Tactical
S&W 4566TSW stock, no trigger job plain 3-dot sigths
Remington 1911 R1S with fiber-optic front sight
Wadda ya think? And maybe why?
If you're stuck with those options, I'd go P220. If you're open to other options in .45 ACP, look at the CZ 97BD (no manual safety to have to disengage) or CZ 97B (manual safety version). Great gun. XD45 is nice, too.So my current beside pistol is a .40 S&W 4006TSW CHP with a light. Perfectl;y fine and more than adequate for the job.
But I was thinking about a bigger bullet (at less velocity) instead.
My choices:
Sig P220 after a bit of trigger work and night sights by Sig
Beretta PX4 full size with night sights after trigger work by Langdon Tactical
S&W 4566TSW stock, no trigger job plain 3-dot sigths
Remington 1911 R1S with fiber-optic front sight
Wadda ya think? And maybe why?