Which auto loader has the worst trigger?

[Cokeman]

Coke, I think it has to do with rough parts in the system.

I noticed it on the Beretta Nano.

The worst was a Cobra Derringer which is obviously not an auto loader.

Esox, I love my Kahr's trigger.

 

[wild cat mccane]

Ruger added an lb to the LC9 trigger over their copied original PF9....so if the PF9 wins, it really means the Ruger LC9 wins.

 

[mgmorden]

I've shot the following: Ruger P95, Ruger SR9, Ruger LCP, Ruger Mk1, HiPoint C9, Walther P1, Doublestar 1911, Beretta 92, SIG P6, S&W M&P 9L, Glock 17, CZ-75, CZ-82, CZ-52, M57 Tokarev, and Browning Hi-Power.

To some degree the worst could be said to be the Ruger LCP. That's the longest and heaviest, but to some degree that's intentional given what it is.

With that one aside, the other worst would be the Hi-Point, followed by the Walther P1.

 

[OilyPablo]

Worst in a "modern" pistol?

Easy: S&W Bodyguard .380ACP. It's just terrible, no other words needed.

 

[osteodoc08]

Auto loader? The remington 522 Viper I had as a kid. You've never shot horrible until you've shot one of those. They only made them for a few years. I know it's a 22 rifle. But it is an auto loader.

 

[Crimp]

The Ruger LC9 has the worst trigger of any pistol I've ever fired --including Kel Tecs.

 

[Welding Rod]

CZ 75 are the worst sa/da service trigger I have tried.

 

[Robbins290]

Not a fan of the lcp, was going to buy one. Shot my fathers. Bought a p238 instead. Second would be walther p99

 

[Jessie James 58]

The worst trigger I have come across is the CZ 52. To say it is bad is an understatement.

 

[KTXdm9]

I vote the LC9 or Sig P290. Looooong trigger pulls with no break or reset. Terrible.

 

[NacsMXer]

Worst in a "modern" pistol?

Easy: S&W Bodyguard .380ACP. It's just terrible, no other words needed.

I agree about the S&W Bodyguard 380. I have felt some long and heavy trigger pulls but the Bodyguard takes the cake as the worst. It is the longest heaviest trigger pull I have ever felt. You have to pull so unnaturally far back that there were several times where I couldn't even get the trigger to break when I wanted to.

 

[Girodin]

The sigma, kel tecs and their copies, etc have bad triggers. They don't even approach the P64 DA pull though is a different level of bad. Kel tec et al are great in comparison. I was going to buy one once after trying the trigger I passed. I'm curious how much the wolf springs improve it.

 

[Owen]

the old VP-70 was pretty dang awful, as were the original Grendels. The Sigma triggers got much better once the E-series was introduced.

 

[OilyPablo]

I agree about the S&W Bodyguard 380. I have felt some long and heavy trigger pulls but the Bodyguard takes the cake as the worst. It is the longest heaviest trigger pull I have ever felt. You have to pull so unnaturally far back that there were several times where I couldn't even get the trigger to break when I wanted to.

You can tell by the guys mentioning the LCP they never tried the BG380.

That gun is special. In a special class of bad. The laser quit on mine the first time out, the second time out the frame pins backed out, then the slide jammed and would not move because the cover screw for the laser battery backed out......all the time the trigger was just nasty. I actually got a full refund on mine. That was the best part of that gun! I replaced it with a Sig P238 and that shoots like a dream.

 

[beatledog7]

I had occasion to fire a Sigma and a PF9 on the same day as my CZ-75 B SA. I was ready to declare the S&W and the KelTec were broken.

They weren't.

 

[Storm]

Yup, the original Grendels. After all these years I still have nightmares that the trigger won't break when it absolutely needs to

At to the VP70Z, install a Wolff reduced power striker spring and it is a whole lot better, still not great, but a whole lot better. When the gun was the tri-burst military VP70 they used a very strong striker spring to insure the reliability of hard primered sub gun ammo. When they released the civilian Z they failed to install a reduced power spring. But yeah, the stock spring is miserable.

 

[PabloJ]

A tossup between P-63 and P-64.

 

[Bill4282]

Walther P99. Long and hard to get used to. Most know this but Glock sued S&W over the sigma calling it a copy. Glock won and S&W paid a royalty for the Sigmas sold. The trigger weight (12lb) was part of the deal. If you send your Sigma to S&W, they'll do a trigger job and it'll shoot like a Glock 5 lb trigger.

 

[pyro073]

For me, it would be a Hi-Point, the PF9 I have or the Sig P250 I used to have.

 

[Fremmer]

P1 DA has to be at least 12 or 13 pounds; when I first tried it out, I did a double take when the hammer wasn't moving, and I wondered if something was broken.

It's a bad DA trigger when you have to bite your lip and practically clench your entire hand to get the hammer moving!

 

[MCgunner]

Bad for what purpose? My P11 has the BEST trigger extant for a pocket carry self defense autoloader IMHO, long and smooth and very easy to master. It sucks for bullseye competition, but that's not its purpose. A pocket carry self defense auto should have a long, smooth DAO, not a crisp, light SA.

The DA on my P64 was unusable out of the box, but it shoots quite well now with a Wolff spring kit. However, the transition from the heavy DA to the TOO light SA is tough. That's not good. It makes double taps sometimes involuntary. It's a very accurate pistol, though, and after the rather cheap and easy spring change, the DA is quite easy to shoot, now, still a bit stiff, but I hit with it now. Before that spring change, it was miserable. I couldn't hit squat in DA.

The worst trigger I've got on a pistol, I guess, is a Grendel P12. I've learned to use it, but it starts out REALLY heavy and drops off. It's the weirdest trigger i've tried on an auto. Nagants aren't autos. They have the worst triggers in the entire handgun world, though, hands down. Even in SA they suck.

 

[MTMilitiaman]

The so called match trigger on my USP Tactical 45 is pretty bad, definately by far the worst trigger I've ever shot that was labeled a match trigger. It's only marginally better than the trigger on my dad's Beretta M92FS. That one holds the distinction for the worst trigger I've ever had to deal with. It's about 12 to 14 pounds, long and gritty. Really feels like dragging a cinder block across gravel with your finger...one of many complaints I have with that Italian abomination.

 

[SpentCasing]

Another vote for the P-64

I literally had to use 2 hands to pull through the DA. SA, ironically, was quite decent.

 

[Penoe Hunter]

If we can go back several decades, the H&K VP70Z has a pretty bad trigger. It's a striker fired gun, but unlike the current crop of striker guns, the striker was not partially or pre-cocked. Instead, the trigger cocked the striker fully until release and you didn't have any mechanical advantage to make it smoother or easier.

The pull weight and let-off can be improved upon with spring tuning and part polishing... but it's still, at best, only a fair DAO trigger.

C

I can second the HK VP70 unbelievable heavy gritty trigger pull

 

[vkeith]

Yet another vote for the P64 in DA with stock springs, but it's actually got a nice crisp trigger in SA.