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Which one you do NOT want?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by el Godfather, Feb 13, 2013.

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Vote one OUT!

Poll closed Feb 27, 2013.
  1. Dan Wesson VBob

    76 vote(s)
    15.9%
  2. H&K P30

    44 vote(s)
    9.2%
  3. Sig Sauer 226 Elite

    23 vote(s)
    4.8%
  4. Glock 19

    139 vote(s)
    29.1%
  5. Beretta 92FS

    97 vote(s)
    20.3%
  6. Walther P99

    98 vote(s)
    20.5%
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  1. berettaprofessor

    berettaprofessor Member

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    Hate the Glock trigger and disassembly
     
  2. el Godfather

    el Godfather Member

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    Trigger may be questionable, but disassembly can not get any simpler.
     
  3. Jaymo

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    I voted G19, but nobody cares what I think.
     
  4. meanmrmustard

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    What!:eek::confused::eek:
     
  5. Confederate

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    Number 3 is the Sig Saur Elite 226 and has all the charm as something made by an Erector Set. I have the 226's .45 brother, the 220 (the non-Elite), and if you think of it like raw broccoli, it would be an apt metaphor, in my opinion. The guns are ultra reliable, accurate tools that can last a lifetime; however, where most 9mm go "clink," the Sig Saurs go "clunk!" I also found that the hammer drop feature frequently bites my thumb. On the other hand, so to speak, the Sigs are easy to take down clean and reassemble. I love admiring the craftsmanship of my other handguns, but my Sig remains in a zippered case in my safe, oiled and ready for whoever I will it to. Again, good gun; however, it's like broccoli. Raw broccoli. Very good for you, but it isn't about tasting great.

    The Elite models are somewhat better, but in my view, they're just more of the same...and the safety still tends to bite. But the appeal is a minor improvement!

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    The P220 Elite Dark
     
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  6. osteodoc08

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    I'd get rid of the H&K, just never been a fan.

    If only two, I'd KEEP the DW and Sig
     
  7. Bushpilot

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    The Beretta 92 would be the one that I would probably want the least. I've never shot a 92 that was anything other than mediocre accuracy wise and I'm not just talking about wore out M9's. I don't like the way the barrel fits in the front of the slide on 92's, it's usually a sloppy fit. I'm not a real big fan of Glocks either but the Glocks I've shot would outshoot the 92's, even with the Glocks trigger...
     
  8. el Godfather

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    Given the strong sentiments against H&K customer service it is amazing that P30 is still number 2 favorite.
     
  9. CZguy

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    As a general rule, I think your Mom and dog care what you think. After that you may be right.

    I too voted for the Glock 19.
     
  10. bill3424

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    I wouldn't take an HK. Parts are too hard to find, fairly pricey. Been there, don't that. I had to wait forever for night sights for my P30's.
     
  11. OregonJohnny

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    Well, actually it can. I have Glocks, Berettas, 1911s, XDs, Sigs, etc. None of them are as easy to take down as the Beretta 92FS. It's the only gun that I can disassemble and reassemble 1-handed. You just push the takedown button on the right side of the frame, while swinging the takedown lever down on the left. The gun can be in battery or not. No pulling the slide back necessary. No trigger pull necessary.

    All other semi-automatics I've ever owned or shot take 2 hands, and a few more steps than the Beretta to take apart - including the Glock.
     
  12. Warp

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    That is easy.

    But Glocks extremely easy to disassemble, especially just for field stripping. Yes, you need to pull the trigger if it is 'cocked'. You don't really have to pull the slide back though, just a little tiny bit of pressure relief and maybe a tenth of an inch of travel, if not less, will do it.

    I'm sure there are others that are easier to take down, but that certainly doesn't make it difficult to disassemble a Glock. Anybody who thinks otherwise is obviously extraordinarily bias towards or inexperienced with Glocks. JMO

    I would say the same thing if anybody claimed an AR15 was hard to field strip.
     
  13. el Godfather

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    Try comparing removing the barrel-associated parts disassembly. FS is little tricky to remove the block. Glock doesnt have it. Simple.
     
  14. B!ngo

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    Nice list, nice post. There are few there that I really 'love', but hard to find one that I just don't like. The Beretta 92 finally hit the dirt. I know it's a great, ruggedly dependable and increasingly historic piece. But it just has never 'done it' for me. To show all work, I'm a huge 9mm fan, being convinced that with modern cartridge design there's no need to carry any 'bigger hitting' rounds with the commensurate trade in magazine capacity. And the 92 is a solid remarkable sidearm. Few ever complain about it reliability.
    But all that considered, it is just such a plain and boring machine. One that many, same as I, finds it to be rather low on their top-of-anything list.
    BTW, as a left-hander I really find the design of the Sig totally unusable to be with it being designed to be well-managed by the other 90% of the market. But as much as I'd like to vote it off of the firearms island, I have too much respect for the poise, construction and durability of it to let it go.
    Thx,
    B
     
  15. el Godfather

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    I am ambidextrous and can understand the Sig Sauer issue. However, if I was simply left handed I would have skipped the Sig Sauer and sent it off the island, and retained the beretta instead- unless we are talking Sig Sauer 1911 with ambi safty, but that would have very tough time measuring up to Danny Boy on the list.
     
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    Same here. Every time I've dealt with HK they've done me right and been awfully nice about it, too. If anything, it (the customer service) would be the reason that I'd buy another and is why I already have six of them.
     
  17. Fishbed77

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    I find it strange that so many folks have voted for the Walther P99. (Hint - It's a better pistol than the Glock 19 or Beretta 92, and at least the equal of the HK P30).

    I guess not as many folks have experience with it to know what they are missing.
     
  18. mnhntr

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    never cared for any of the Berettas
     
  19. Greg528iT

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    Watching "The Walking Dead" they did a close up of the front of a glock 19, and my wife asked. "why is that gun so square and ugly"
     
  20. el Godfather

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    Very very rare to see that Glock loses in a poll. I gues Glocksters could not manage the inverse poll, and may be (just may be) some anti Glock boys have voted it out out sheer dislike. I guess that is how one would vote in poll any way.
     
  21. SwampWolf

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    No Glocks for me; I can't stand the trigger. But then (for general self-defense use), I much prefer traditional da triggers; a configuration many other shooters detest. For target (Bullseye) competition, only a fine sa trigger will do for me; not something the Glock trigger is meant for.
     
  22. meanmrmustard

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    Agreed.

    Matter of fact, if you use the top of a boot to pull the slide back a bit, you can disassemble a Glock one handed.

    Why would you do this? I don't know, but if you have a wounded arm and need to gain access to the gun...easy peasy.
     
  23. el Godfather

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    In a straight popularity poll i doubt Sig Sauer would out vote Glock, but in this sort of poll it is evident that very few people willing to let go of Sig Sauer 226 Elite.
     
  24. Chris-bob

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    I hate the Glock. Just don't like them.
     
  25. 2ndamd

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    HK hates you.
    So, i hate them back.
    Over priced imho.
     
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