Which political party(s) do you side with most?

Discussion in 'Legal' started by joey93turbo, Jan 25, 2005.

?

Which political party(s) do you side with most?

  1. Republicans

    89 vote(s)
    36.6%
  2. Democrats

    12 vote(s)
    4.9%
  3. Libertarians

    125 vote(s)
    51.4%
  4. Green (lol)

    4 vote(s)
    1.6%
  5. Centrist

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. Other

    13 vote(s)
    5.3%
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. joey93turbo

    joey93turbo Member

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2003
    Messages:
    370
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    I'm curious to know which political party(s) they feel represent(s) their views best and why. I myself find myself mostly siding with the Libertarian party. I find myself siding with Democrats on alot of issues such as abortion, separation of church and state, drug legalization, and gay rights. I used to be a pretty die hard Republican but especially lately I feel that the GOP has abandoned their roots and are moving more and more to the left everyday.
     
  2. joey93turbo

    joey93turbo Member

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2003
    Messages:
    370
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    Those of you that vote, please explain why. That's what I'm most curious to know...
     
  3. Yowza

    Yowza Member

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2003
    Messages:
    337
    Location:
    Lexington, SC
    I would have to say my views are most aligned with the Libertarian Party. Mainly due to the issues of drug legalization, gun control, taxes, and public education. I don't necessarily agree with the Libertarian Party's stance on national defense and their position on abortion is somewhat up in the air--I'm opposed to abortion in all but the most extreme cases, but that issue is not really a dealbreaker to me anyway.

    The Republicans often give lip service to the things I'm most concerned about and their stated positions usually sound good, but in practice most of them are not much better than the Democrats.

    Rick
     
  4. 2nd Amendment

    2nd Amendment member

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2002
    Messages:
    1,928
    Location:
    Indiana
    I might align best with the Libertarians, but the party is a joke. It's as if they go out of their way to never be a serious force. When they do decide to make an impact it always seems to be in an effort to unseat a Republican, their ideological cousins, in favor of a Demonicrat, their essential enemies. Illogical, at best.

    So I'll stay with Repub for now. I vote that way, generally, simply to oppose the far worse creatures that compose the Demonicrats and, for now, there's really not a lot of choice: Bad or Really Horrible. Sadly, both parties know that.
     
  5. Wedge

    Wedge Member

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2003
    Messages:
    1,611
    Libertarian.
     
  6. USP45usp

    USP45usp member

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2004
    Messages:
    333
    Constitution Party.

    They are small (which is why I assume that it was not in the poll) but they hold the same values as Ron Paul.

    I know, I know, they will never win. Americans don't want freedom anylonger (hence the outcry at President Bush's use of the word freedom 27 times in his speech).

    American's want security, handouts, and free money and will give up anything and everything for it (for the most part, it's 51/49% right now).

    I have a feeling that there will be only a two party system until we go the way of Rome and other past civilizations.

    Wayne
     
  7. MarkDido

    MarkDido Member

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2003
    Messages:
    1,100
    Location:
    FL
    I was registered as an independent for a long time, until the 2000 election that is.

    Watching the debacle that was the Gore challenge to the election, ESPECIALLY his attempt to have military absentee ballots disqualified, p*ssed me off to the point that I change my party affiliation to Republican
     
  8. HankB

    HankB Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2003
    Messages:
    5,261
    Location:
    Central Texas
    For the most part, I side with the Republicans, based on their official platform.

    Unfortunately, all too many Republican politicians - including GWB - are, at best, RINOs.

    Libertarians have a lot going for them, except for the lunacy of their "open border" policy. (GWB is also dead wrong on this.)
     
  9. CannibalCrowley

    CannibalCrowley Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2004
    Messages:
    926
    Location:
    Grand Rapids, Michigan
    Libertarian. Small government and a lot of personal freedoms.

    The improperly named Constitution Party (it should be the Theocracy Party) is not about freedom. Any party that supports the War on Some Drugs as well as other victimless crimes doesn't have freedom in mind.
     
  10. Michael_2112

    Michael_2112 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2003
    Messages:
    185
    Location:
    Great Commonwealth of Pennsylvania
    Libertarian
     
  11. joey93turbo

    joey93turbo Member

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2003
    Messages:
    370
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    Lots of votes, not many explainations :(
     
  12. Ivy Mike

    Ivy Mike Member

    Joined:
    Feb 29, 2004
    Messages:
    2,655
    Location:
    Las Vegas, NV
    Libertarian.

    The policies of the Libertarian party best reflect what I feel is the direction our country should take. Personal freedoms are a huge priority and enabling Americans to succeed apart from huge government involvment is a big selling point. I'm not too keen on the open border ideas, but I do understand that a large majority of labor (in some areas) is immigrant. Prices would go way up if we were to close the border.
    I feel drugs (almost all drugs) should be legalized and social security should be optional.

    To me, Republicans and Democrats are the same party. The major difference between the two is spelling. The illusion of choice is what has suckered Americans for many years now. A race with only two contestants isn't really much of a race at all. You can predict the outcome and based on past stances, we can tell that both are pretty much the same.

    If you really want to look at the nitty gritty. Bush and Kerry didn't advocate too many different things.

    Bush started his little war on terror. Did Kerry say that Bush was wrong for toppling two sovreign governments in three years? Did he lambast Bush for cutting into the private lives of US citizens? Did Kerry ever say Bush was wrong?
    Not really...he merely outlined different ways to accomplish similar goals.
     
  13. USP45usp

    USP45usp member

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2004
    Messages:
    333
    CC, I had to make a choice, to go with a party that supports open boarders and abortion or with a group that had a couple of flaws that could be overturned at state level (according to the party, it will be the right of the states to either ban or make legal).

    Since abortion is such an abomination to me to even think about, I just couldn't side with the Libertarian party.

    :)

    Wayne
     
  14. S Roper

    S Roper Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2004
    Messages:
    135
    Location:
    Chagrin Falls, OH
    Somewhere between Republican, Libertarian, and Constitution. I'm mostly a traditionalist conservative, but I'm libertarian on issues of drug control and border control.
     
  15. RealGun

    RealGun Member

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2004
    Messages:
    8,510
    Location:
    Upstate SC
    This is interesting, for sure, but it strikes me as trying to revive the electricity of pre-election debates.

    I am Republican but with a number of misgivings about the GOP being such a mixed bag. I see the GOP as the best fit for a pragmatic, secular conservative. I am Republican mainly because I don't believe in using a lot of energy dreaming up ways to spend money, a characteristic of the Democrats that I find quite predictable and much more a priority than for Republicans. I believe you have to make money before you can give it away. I am also interested in voting for a candidate who stands a prayer of winning, i.e. a vote that seems to mean something.

    I find no other party choices that I would take seriously. Each has at least one critical flaw and appear more like cults than true parties. Any party that is immoderate and is well understood by the voters stands no chance of getting elected beyond perhaps some local office.
     
  16. OF

    OF Member

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2002
    Messages:
    2,988
    So help me, I hear the Dems yammering on lately and I want nothing so much as to see Boxer and Kennedy hung for treason.

    So 'D' is out.

    - Gabe ('L' with an 'R' lean for realism)
     
  17. tim71

    tim71 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2004
    Messages:
    93
    I like the constitution party

    The constitution party thinks all gun legislation starting with the 1968 should be repealed. More state soverenty. Homosexual mariage is wrong, abortion should be murder and so on. Basically they're very conservative which is why I side with them. Unfortunatly they are very small so I usually vote Republican.

    Let me say that being a Christian, gun-loving, big govt hating person, I could never ever vote Democrat on a large scale election. To me they've darn near crossed comunist socialist views. Anytime you mention a tax cut they scream it's for the rich. I just figured my taxes and I definately got a tax cut from bush and me and my wife made less than $60,000. last year. I also hate how on last election they tried to use trickery in their wording using phrases like "I'm personally opposed to abortion". Read into that and you see that means, I've never had one but I support the right to chose.

    Ideally I'd like the constition party but Republican is where I land.

    But that's my opinion for what it's worth.

    Later,

    Tim
     
  18. ZeroX

    ZeroX Member

    Joined:
    May 30, 2004
    Messages:
    888
    Location:
    Bloomington, IN
    Libertarian

    As far as voting for them, there just doesn't seem to be a point in most cases. They don't stand a ghost of a chance, most of the time.
     
  19. MrTuffPaws

    MrTuffPaws Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2004
    Messages:
    1,513
    Location:
    Az
    Do you mean judging by the actions of the party, or what they say they stand for? The republican in office now, is not a republican by action, but more of some weird neo-con mixed with some other form of extreme social conservative. Not a pretty sight IMO.

    As for what I am, I would have to say other, even tough I am a registered Dem. I lean a lot to libertarian ideals with a mixture of green on the environment and such.
     
  20. GoRon

    GoRon Member

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2002
    Messages:
    1,495
    Location:
    west burbs of Chicago
    In a perfect world= Libertarian

    In an imperfect world= Republicans
     
  21. joey93turbo

    joey93turbo Member

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2003
    Messages:
    370
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    I mean based on their platform and what they say they stand for.

    It really troubles me how many people side with the Libertarian party but vote elsewhere because they say their votes won't matter. Even registering as a Libertarian helps them a great deal. I sent in my voter registration card a few days back with the change from Republican to Libertarian. I know it's easier to do nothing but I think there are alot of things worth fighting for in this country. I'm not content with just sitting around and watching what happens.
     
  22. coma

    coma Member

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2004
    Messages:
    71
    Location:
    greenfield mass-o-chussetts
    I find the party that I lean toward the most is the libertarians, but I don't always agree with the whole "party line way of thinking". I don’t really care for the republicans much, but a bad republican is better than any of or all of the good Democrats (many are socialist at best, Marxist at worst).

    Over all I am finding that I am mostly an Autonomist in my views and beliefs.Autonomist Site:
    I believe that we are ultimately responsible for our selves no matter who is in office. And it seems more and more that “The Big Two†parties that have most of the control in this county, want nothing more than the power to control every part of our lives.
     
  23. Old NFO

    Old NFO Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2004
    Messages:
    494
    Location:
    Arlington, VA
    Repubilcan because they actually support the military most of the time.
     
  24. Firethorn

    Firethorn Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2004
    Messages:
    1,386
    I describe myself as a conservative libertarian. In most ways I'm a classical liberal.

    I'm opposed to firearm regulation, the war on (some) drugs.
    I'm for allowing doctor assisted suicide, and I think that abortion should be legal, though it should be a state issue. Abortion and drug use should be addressed through education and provision of alternatives.

    On the other hand, I'm also for a strong military and diplomatic presence. A policy of openess, honor, and commitment should be followed. Allies should be supported. Enemies should be neutralized, though invasion should be saved where it's really required.

    Welfare should be eliminated as we know it. If we must have a "safety net", it should be a work-fare program where you have to work a minimum of 40 hours a week for minimal benefits.
     
  25. HungSquirrel

    HungSquirrel Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2005
    Messages:
    266
    Location:
    Alabama, USA
    I am a Libertarian. I support individual freedom in all aspects of life. I refuse to throw my support behind a party that only pretends to care about civil liberties (the Dems) or a party that only cares about one Amendment (Republicans).
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice