Who Makes The Best 10mm Pistol?

[.455_Hunter]

The response you didn't want, but the correct answer to the question is the 1006/1066.

 

[Y-T71]

Mine with it's little brother, 6906

 

[The Glockodile]

Talk about overkill in regular old, puny 10mm.

Never really looked into it, but it probably has something to do with hunting and the various firearm regulations stipulated for such, and not wanting to go full magboom (?).

 

[Y-T71]

Never really looked into it, but it probably has something to do with hunting and the various firearm regulations stipulated for such, and not wanting to go full magboom (?).

Oh, please don't think I'm complaining or even making fun.
I just think for a handgun chambered in .454 Casull is almost toylike in 10mm.

 

[Sour Kraut]

Yep, that's the conclusion I came to as well.

I'm assuming case support is a non-issue?

I only ask because I haven't heard one way or the other (same with S&W M&P for that matter.

I think new 10mm buyers aren't as concerned with case head support because the majority (not all, mind you, just the run of the mill stuff) is downloaded enough not to matter.

It's when those of us who try to make the 10mm what it was originally designed to do that manufacturers run into issues.

The XDM 10mm firearms have fully supported chambers.

 

[Y-T71]

The XDM 10mm firearms have fully supported chambers.

Thank you for the info

 

[TTv2]

I am in the market for a 10mm high capacity pistol . What keeps me from the Glock in 10mm is the partially unsupported chamber and the Glock smile that you sometimes get on your brass shooting the .40 and 10mm . I would want to shoot some hot loads and cast reloads a lot . I wouldn’t feel comfortable doing that with the factory Glock barrel , so that would add to the cost of the pistol for a aftermarket barrel . It’s new , but I am going to look at the Sig 320 10mm .

I've got 3 Gen 4 Glocks, all in .40 or 10mm and none of them have bulged or had a smile on the brass. I've been told Glock tightened up the chamber support on Gen 4 in .40 and I have to believe it's true based on my experiences.

I'm not overly concerned about it, but I would like an aftermarket barrel for the 10mm someday for 220gr lead loads.

 

[Y-T71]

I've got 3 Gen 4 Glocks, all in .40 or 10mm and none of them have bulged or had a smile on the brass. I've been told Glock tightened up the chamber support on Gen 4 in .40 and I have to believe it's true based on my experiences.

I'm not overly concerned about it, but I would like an aftermarket barrel for the 10mm someday for 220gr lead loads.

If you don't mind me asking, what ammo are you shooting through your Glocks specifically the 10mm?
Factory ammo? Brand?
Reloads?

Thanks

 

[TTv2]

Oh, please don't think I'm complaining or even making fun.
I just think for a handgun chambered in .454 Casull is almost toylike in 10mm.

I think Ruger realizes people are going to ream the chambers on those for the half dozen people who want to shoot 10mm Mag, but why Ruger doesn't just make a 10mm Mag chambered revolver beats me. I guess it's because they know most of the ammo that would go thru it is handloads and no gun maker likes that.

 

[TTv2]

If you don't mind me asking, what ammo are you shooting through your Glocks specifically the 10mm?
Factory ammo? Brand?
Reloads?

Thanks

Factory for .40, usually Winchester White Box or Federal.

10mm is my handloads. 200gr Berry's and Blue Dot.

 

[Y-T71]

Thank you for your answer

 

[Cump]

I've got 3 Gen 4 Glocks, all in .40 or 10mm and none of them have bulged or had a smile on the brass. I've been told Glock tightened up the chamber support on Gen 4 in .40 and I have to believe it's true based on my experiences.

I'm not overly concerned about it, but I would like an aftermarket barrel for the 10mm someday for 220gr lead loads.

I remember reading of the increased chamber support as well (sorry no source), and my G20 shoots Underwood 200s without a bulge. I have not handloaded for it yet ...

Anyone seen poor chamber support in a G4 10mm Glock first hand?

 

[WrongHanded]

I remember reading of the increased chamber support as well (sorry no source), and my G20 shoots Underwood 200s without a bulge. I have not handloaded for it yet ...

Anyone seen poor chamber support in a G4 10mm Glock first hand?

I don't know what's consider poor and what isn't, but I took this pic of my G20.4 stock barrel yesterday evening, just for reference.

 

[Y-T71]

Good question.

I don't know either.
Of course I have no proof whatsoever but it would seem likely that any improvement to a Glock chamber would have been quietly done without much fan fair otherwise it could have been conctrued as a potential problem.

Waiting until late Gen 4 or, from the beginning of Gen 5 wouldn't have necessarily indicated a problem at all; just one of many 'product improvement' instituted resulting in Glock perfection (mod 5.0)

Just guessing

 

[sparkyv]

The P220 is a TANK....a highly priced, low capacity TANK!

No mention of the Sig P220 yet either. I certainly thought the .45 I had was solid, but perhaps the P220 doesn't work so well with the 10mm?

always forget about the P220.
I don't think I've ever seen one in person though.

I’ll go with Sig P220 Legion.

Here's the XDM-10 and SR1911-10 chamber support images:

 

[Lennyjoe]

So far I’ve owned the following 10MM’s:
S&W1006
G20 Gen 3
Witness Poly 10
RIA 1911 10MM
Springfield XDM10
G20 Gen 4
Hi-Point 10 carbine
Springfield XDM Elite 3.8 10

Of the above, the only 3 I have kept are the G20 Gen 4, Hi-Point and XDM Elite. The remaining were fine guns, but didn’t fit what I was looking for. The Gen 3 left because I made the bad decision and sold it. Nothing wrong with the gun. The Smith was a tank but too heavy for the field. Witness, 1911 and XDM10 didn’t have the accuracy I wanted.

I’ve been reloading since 2000 and the 10MM was the reason why I got into reloading in the first place. So my point is, what’s best for me may not be the best for you. You really have to decide what your intended use is for the 10MM and go from there.

 

[WrongHanded]

Regarding the Glock smile/bulge:

I'll try and remember when I get home. I have 5 pieces of fired brass from the stock G20.4 barrel, they were all loaded by Buffalo Bore as the 190gr mono solid dangerous game load. I therefore assume they're full pressure for 10mm, so if there's going to be a brass deformation issue from that barrel it seems likely those pieces would show it.

Although not within the scope of the thread, I did swap the barrel for a 5" KKM, which has worked just fine.

 

[Cump]

Wish I had an original G3 barrel to compare it to.

I think there are more supportive chambers, but this seems to be adequate within saami specs -- though perhaps not ideal for a reloader who wants to run at max pressure and keep reusing the brass for max pressure.

 

[BigBlue 94]

10mm ammo wiggles quite a bit in my G20g4 factory barrel. Not so much in the lone wolf barrel.

 

[ECVMatt]

I am jumping on the Glock bandwagon. I have had a 20 for about 15 years and it has been a great pistol. I have hunted hogs in Texas with it and taken it to Alaska. It runs, is easy to clean, and has a proven record. I know there are a lot of other choices now, but it is hard to be the 20.

 

[entropy]

Smith & Wesson, the 610.

I've shot the Delta Elite, G20, and G29. (What a thumper!)
I have a soft spot for the Delta Elite, but the G20 is the better gun for all practical purposes.

 

[stanley_white]

To me, “Best” means reliable, tough, simple, plenty of spare parts available, a decent amount of aftermarket accessories offered, and accurate enough for self-defense work.

So, my “Best” leads to Glock.

-Stan

 

[Lennyjoe]

I use a KKM barrel in my G20 for better support. I run a pretty hot 800X load out of my G20 and I haven’t had any issues out of the stock XDM Elite barrel. The Hi-Point flattens the primers a bit with that load but not to the point where I wouldn’t use them in the carbine.

 

[Crazy Horse]

I have the 10mm in 1911 by Desert Eagle. Really nice shooter. Very accurate and really soaks up any recoil (reloader). If capacity is not an issue, that would be my vote.

Quick question. About 3 weeks ago M&P had an event at a range I'm a member of. I fired the M&P 10mm with the 4.6 inch barrel. Awesome firearm. I loved almost everything about the new M&P especially the new trigger. It eliminates the need for me to go out and get an APEX trigger. The only thing I didn't like was the stippling. However, a quick sanding will take the bite out. The stippling is very aggressive, especially in 10mm, that will definitely leave the palm red and stingy. I didn't get to try the 4 inch M&P as the rep closed up shop.

Does the 4 inch barrel M&P or 3.8 inch barrel XDM elite give more recoil vs the their longer barrel counterparts? I'm looking to get a new 10mm and torn between XDM and M&P. I just love M&P and how it feels, but XDM makes true ambidextrous firearms (i'm a lefty) while the M&P requires moving the mag release (the slide stop is now ambi, so good on you M&P). XDM elite had the edge with their triggers, but with M&P's new trigger, that isn't the case anymore. Input on recoil is appreciated especially since I have not fired the 10mm on anything shorter than a 4.6 inch barrel. Especially in terms of acquiring sights on follow-up shots.

TIA

CH

 

[Y-T71]

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Wish I had an original G3 barrel to compare it to.

I think there are more supportive chambers, but this seems to be adequate within saami specs -- though perhaps not ideal for a reloader who wants to run at max pressure and keep reusing the brass for max pressure.

The Glock looks real good to my eye
As does the XDM.

Just took a couple of pics with my 1006 for comparison.