Gudis
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I voted Thompson, because Ron Paul was left off of the list because he's so damn unelectable, unlike, say Al Gore who has stated repeatedly he has no intention of running...
Who would you vote for?
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PaladinX13
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The "electability" argument belies a mindset that betrays principles for Machiavellian calculation which might net short-term goals but ultimately is a loss for everyone but the State.
There's a documentary about how our society shifted from one believing in actual ideals, principles, and communal spirit to one driven by "rational gain" focused on numbers and "objective" criteria. I highly recommend watching it to see if you recognize the same programmed trends with in yourself and those around you.
"The Trap: What Happened To Our Dreams of Freedom"
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0979263/
3 Parts - 180min total
Online @:
http://adamcurtistrap.blogspot.com/
There's a documentary about how our society shifted from one believing in actual ideals, principles, and communal spirit to one driven by "rational gain" focused on numbers and "objective" criteria. I highly recommend watching it to see if you recognize the same programmed trends with in yourself and those around you.
"The Trap: What Happened To Our Dreams of Freedom"
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0979263/
3 Parts - 180min total
Online @:
http://adamcurtistrap.blogspot.com/
Titan6
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And still no one had heard of Bill clinton 20 months prior to the election.
Very likely he will not win. But even hopeless that is where my support goes. I have only two issues freedom and the Constitution.
Try to find one other person who is pro 2A and did not vote for the Patriot Act. Throw in some light conservative values and sane fiscal policy and there is no one else left in the race except Paul. These things used to be common in the Republican Party and are no longer. As much as Paul is marginalized in the MSM this may play in his favor. Dark horse candidates have frequently won the presidency and have been some of our best presidents. To be honest I don't think he has much of chance. But he does have a chance....
Very likely he will not win. But even hopeless that is where my support goes. I have only two issues freedom and the Constitution.
Try to find one other person who is pro 2A and did not vote for the Patriot Act. Throw in some light conservative values and sane fiscal policy and there is no one else left in the race except Paul. These things used to be common in the Republican Party and are no longer. As much as Paul is marginalized in the MSM this may play in his favor. Dark horse candidates have frequently won the presidency and have been some of our best presidents. To be honest I don't think he has much of chance. But he does have a chance....
NickEllis
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PaladinX....
There's a difference between choosing electability though impoverished in values, and electability while accurately representing my views. I think Fred Thompson actively embodies the second.
I don't view FT as an empoverished choice over Ron Paul. Paul would be fantastic, but I don't believe he is electable. Should that change in the future, then great. I will look into voting for him, should I consider him capable of winning the ticket.
For now, I actively tout both Ron Paul and Fred Thompson as strong conservative candidates for the upcoming year. There's no reason to isolate and vilify those who are on our own side. Within the sphere of acceptable candidates, may the best man (overall) win.
Nick
There's a difference between choosing electability though impoverished in values, and electability while accurately representing my views. I think Fred Thompson actively embodies the second.
I don't view FT as an empoverished choice over Ron Paul. Paul would be fantastic, but I don't believe he is electable. Should that change in the future, then great. I will look into voting for him, should I consider him capable of winning the ticket.
For now, I actively tout both Ron Paul and Fred Thompson as strong conservative candidates for the upcoming year. There's no reason to isolate and vilify those who are on our own side. Within the sphere of acceptable candidates, may the best man (overall) win.
Nick
countryrebel
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Fred Thompson,Ron Paul
The one and only
Ron Paul. I don't know why every body says he unelectable. I just talked to the mail man. he's voting for him. Every forum I go to says the same . The gunners want him, the survivalists want him, most Texans want him. Most people that want true freedom want him. The people that don't are the people making a buck on this war machine, or the socialist's that have their head in the sand, pushing a communist agenda. What's wrong with a man that wants to return to a Republic that is governed by the Constitution? No gun control, no IRS, no CIA, no FBI, no foreign aid, no Patriot act, no suspension of Habeus Corpus, no war in Iran,no universal mind control health care. Troops on the border instead of all over the world. All the bill of rights restored and protection of the Constitution. What's wrong or unelectable about that? Any body saying anything else hasn't done their research, and are already defeated. My .02 only.
Ron Paul. I don't know why every body says he unelectable. I just talked to the mail man. he's voting for him. Every forum I go to says the same . The gunners want him, the survivalists want him, most Texans want him. Most people that want true freedom want him. The people that don't are the people making a buck on this war machine, or the socialist's that have their head in the sand, pushing a communist agenda. What's wrong with a man that wants to return to a Republic that is governed by the Constitution? No gun control, no IRS, no CIA, no FBI, no foreign aid, no Patriot act, no suspension of Habeus Corpus, no war in Iran,no universal mind control health care. Troops on the border instead of all over the world. All the bill of rights restored and protection of the Constitution. What's wrong or unelectable about that? Any body saying anything else hasn't done their research, and are already defeated. My .02 only.
Titan6
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Maybe all the gunners, survivalists and postal carriers can move to Texas and we can reform Texas back as a country? Figure with half of the land Army of the US, a good chunk of the AF we should do alright....
Jamie C.
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BAT1 said:
Well, even in the "Fixed" thread here, Fed Thompson is still winning. So there just might be a bit of truth to that whole "unelectable" thing.
Oh, and Doggieman... I believe Fred has made it to Cali a time or two.
Do a Google search on him if you really don't know who he is, and i think you'll see what I mean.
J.C.
Mr. James
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Ron Paul.
He's a man of integrity, principle and courage. I would be proud to pull the lever for him, something I haven't been able to say about a presidential candidate in, oh, about a couple of decades or so.
If Dr. Paul falls out, I would vote Thompson (Fred, not Tommy).
He's a man of integrity, principle and courage. I would be proud to pull the lever for him, something I haven't been able to say about a presidential candidate in, oh, about a couple of decades or so.
If Dr. Paul falls out, I would vote Thompson (Fred, not Tommy).
JesseL
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I'm not going to waste my vote on someone who doesn't represent me. Voting for a lesser evil just gives false legitimacy to evil.
I'll vote for Ron Paul.
I'll vote for Ron Paul.
Molon Labe
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#1: Ron Paul
#2: Fred Thompson
#3: Duncan Hunter
#2: Fred Thompson
#3: Duncan Hunter
hrgrisso
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hmmmm
Well while guns are my driving force I've long been a believer in elect a winner to the White House and control the agenda through the congress/senate. So for social issues, I've gotta go with Romney. McCain has shown absolutely no respect for the Constitution time and again. Guiliani I just can't agree with. I've been digging around for facts on why I should vote for any of these pansies and Romney actually has a message. If you look at more than his talking points pulled up by the MSM he is actually very eloquent.
Outside of that, I hope he grabs Fred as a running mate
(burn hilda burn!). Sorry I like Ron as a congressman, but as a president I have to agree that he's not up tempo enough to take on anyone like Hilda or Obama. Obama would make him look like a fuddy, similar to the way JFK did Nixon on TV.
As for him agreeing to the AWBII, that's why we need to influence our reps/senators to make sure he never gets the chance. After all, Dubya promised to sign it if they got it back to his desk and "sporstmem for Bush" still stepped up to the plate.
Well while guns are my driving force I've long been a believer in elect a winner to the White House and control the agenda through the congress/senate. So for social issues, I've gotta go with Romney. McCain has shown absolutely no respect for the Constitution time and again. Guiliani I just can't agree with. I've been digging around for facts on why I should vote for any of these pansies and Romney actually has a message. If you look at more than his talking points pulled up by the MSM he is actually very eloquent.
Outside of that, I hope he grabs Fred as a running mate
(burn hilda burn!). Sorry I like Ron as a congressman, but as a president I have to agree that he's not up tempo enough to take on anyone like Hilda or Obama. Obama would make him look like a fuddy, similar to the way JFK did Nixon on TV. As for him agreeing to the AWBII, that's why we need to influence our reps/senators to make sure he never gets the chance. After all, Dubya promised to sign it if they got it back to his desk and "sporstmem for Bush" still stepped up to the plate.
Huh.. yeah looks like he's done his share of acting. Still haven't heard of 'im though, though his face looks familiar.
Not big on the Repubs at the moment. Too corrupt, been in power too long. Only a couple of things I agree with them on.. one is gun rights.
Libertarian all the way, but one will never be elected. People like to control their fellow men too much to vote Libertarian.
IMHO
Jamie C.
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Doggieman said:
Well, Fred was a TN senator for a while, and a good one in my opinion.
As for acting... I don't get the impression he can really act. It seems to me that "what you see is what you get" with him, and that he's always just being himself.
Either that, or he just "acts" all the time, even when lawyering, being a particular character in a movie, or being a senator.
No matter what the case, I've never really seen him be any different, no matter what the situation.
J.C.
P5 Guy
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You need to add None of the Above.
WildeKurt
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I clicked on Thomson but only because I don't know much about him and all the others should be tarred and feathered. Ron Paul would be a better choice, I do know a bit about him but not much
WildeKurt
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Do Over
Ok, I call a do over. After reading some of the replys, leaving Ron Paul off and putting Al Gore on makes the poll. Gore isn't even running and has said he won't. (And after he pussied out last time around, I wouldn't waste my vote on him anyway).
Ok, I call a do over. After reading some of the replys, leaving Ron Paul off and putting Al Gore on makes the poll. Gore isn't even running and has said he won't. (And after he pussied out last time around, I wouldn't waste my vote on him anyway).
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Max Beep
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I like Tom Tancredo because of his stance on illegal immigration. Of those listed I like Fred Thompson best.
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