Why haven't CZs caught on?

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I mean that people who want farckles like more durable guide rods and stuff like that can do so very easily when they purchase models like the CZ 75b. Jackash makes a guide rod to replace the stock one. Which, btw, isn't subpar. Some just prefer a beefier one, the same way some people prefer to get groceries with a 30 foot long diesel SUV.
 
My PCR is on par with my SIG 228 in almost every respect. It has been 100% reliable from day one, it's accurate, has a good trigger and good ergonomics in general. I also think it's a nice looking pistol with good fit and finish.

I purchased std cap (14 rnd) mags from CZ USA for $37 each a couple months after eh AWB lapsed. Not great, but certainly no worse than what SIG or HK charges for factory mags.

CZ's cheap, shoddy, and inaccurate? Not in my experience.
 
I have 3 CZ's , 75 BD, Gompact and an 85 combat. I just like them and the all run and are accurate. I want to get a PO1 and an 83. I also have a line on a BHP, but that is another story.
 
What they need to do is jack the price up to 7 or $800 then folks will think wow!!! What a pistol. With the price so low, I'll bet lots of people think it has to be a cheapo gun.

Of course I can say that as I already have mine!
 
CZ in .45?

Anybody have any experience with the .45 model? I've been thinking of a DA .45 for awhile know (I already have a 1911) but have narrowed the field to a G30/P220 or the CZ.
 
agtman said:
CZ went to the .40S&W only recently with their 75B, and then into .45acp with the 97B - both large, all-steel 10-rd propositions. Unfortunately, CZ doesn't offer a similar pistol in 10mm Auto, thus leaving those wanting a CZ-style DA/SA pistol chambered in this potent caliber to the mediocre hit-n-miss Witness.

I don't think it's fair to label the witness as mediocre. Perhaps when one compares them to a four-figure pistol, but they are a whole lot of gun for the money in the $300 arena. I have a compact 10mm and my only gripe is that the factory compact magazines lack sufficient spring power to reliably engage the slide stop. This was easily fixed by removing the springs from my nuetered 10 round Beretta 92 mags and installing them in the Witness mags. The gun now runs flawlessly (except with nuclear 200 grain loads, which slam the small slide a bit too hard). My next 10mm will be either the Witness Hunter or the Stock custom (if EAA starts importing it as they say they will)

As to the others who have said the CZ's are ugly::confused: , especially those who would say they favor a Hi-Power to the witness:confused: :confused: The two bear a striking resemblance to one another.
 
Re: Witness.

Their problems have been customer service, which *MIGHT* be getting better.

I've got several Witnesses, and they're pretty good guns. And they have some of the best values in a 10mm available.

I prefer CZs, but Witnesses are OK.
 
Redhat said:
What they need to do is jack the price up to 7 or $800 then folks will think wow!!! What a pistol. With the price so low, I'll bet lots of people think it has to be a cheapo gun.
I think you've got a valid point there.
 
CZ-83s have caught on with me...

I now own two in each caliber in blue.

I'd like to repeat this feat with two of each caliber in nickel, but that will be much more difficult.

Getting .380 nickel will be easy.

Getting 9x18 nickel is not easy, but I've got that lined up.

How can I get one or two in .32 ACP nickel?

Has anyone ever heard of a CZ-83 in .32 ACP Nickel?

If anyone has ever seen or heard of a CZ-83 in .32 Nickel, please let me know by private message. If you also want to post your answer too, that's fine also.

I'm not very reliable about checking discussions for others' replies. That's why I requested a private message. I ALWAYS check my private messages within a week or sooner.

Thanks much.
 
CZs are ugly....don't shoot well....come on guys. poppoppop :neener:

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