Why the pump?

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Was watching Tales of the Gun today and it got me to thinking. The lever action shotgun came out before the pump, yet the lever fell by the wayside and the pump became the dominant action for SG's. The pump rifle came out and the lever remained the dominant action for rifles. Why? I've never shot a lever action SG, but they look abit clumbsy. However I cut my teeth on lever action rifles and still think the pump is smoother and quicker.
 
The bulky size of the shotgun shells would probably justify the pump action being more preffered. As for rifles, there may be an issue with chamber pressure (at the time of the western years) or the fact that there were already several thousand different leverguns and many makes and models. Why kill off a good thing? I saw the same program. Man, I want an 1897 Winchester!
 
Good question. My guess is a shotgun kicks more. It's a lot easier to keep a tight grip on a pump shotgun front and back while cycling it than it would be using a lever. Same goes for bolt shotguns. Pumps and autos you can hold tight front and back while firing multiple rounds. Just my 2 cents.. - Joe
 
It doesn't take as much force to extract a spent shell from a shotgun chamber. You don't need a lever to do it. Pumps allow a hunter to fire several shots without moving the gun off-target. They were used to 2 shots from double guns in the 1890s; a pump, not a lever gun, offered something better to compete in the marketplace with a smooth swing AND more followup shots. Moreover, the Winchester 1897 is still favored by some for its wonderful balance with a long barrel. No lever shotgun offered real shotgun-like handling.

Pump rifles came along early, but only for low-pressure rounds like pistol calibers and rimfires. They are regaining popularity rapidly in pistol caliber CAS matches, now that they're more readily available as replicas.

The lever guns that came out in the 1890s were chambered for the then-remarkable .30-30 and even the .45-70. Pump rifles of the time just couldn't compete, though they remained quite popular as what we'd now call .22 "plinkers", at least until good semiautos took that market by storm.

The Remington pump centerfire rifle came along long after the lever action. However, the gun remains popular today with law enforcement and hunters, while the lever action is buoyed by nostalgia and a few other advantages like its compact size, light weight, balance, and solid foreend.
 
In order to fully understand the answer to this excellent question, it's IMO necessary to know the history of firearms development spanning the immediate post-war (War Between The States, that is) period, and the turn of the following century. LOTS of important things happened during those years, and a lot of important developments in the firearms field happened too.

It was the War Between the States that was responsible for the burgeoning popularity of 1)self contained cartridges, and 2)repeating firearms designs using self contained cartridges. There was an absolute plethora of single shot cartridge firing rifles and carbines produced during the war years, by every inventor who hoped to grow rich off wartime contracts. Given that the technology was in its infancy, of course, most of those designs for cartridges and the firearms which used them were proprietary in nature. In other words, there was no standardized design for cartridges that could be used across the design field- so each rifle design used its own ammunition and could not fire that of another make. Military officials were hidebound traditionalists in those years, and slow to change. They resisted strongly the imposition of new technology for many decades, preferring the tried and true weapons of years gone by they had known when they were junior officers in the ranks.

This backwards-looking attitude lasted until the turn of the 20th Century and after, BTW- note that the vaunted 1903 Springfield rifle still had a magazine cutoff switch, so that it could be employed as a single loader with the magazine held in reserve. The point? Officers did not trust troops not to waste valuable ammunition, as they feared would happen if troops were allowed to employ their rifles as repeaters.

But the troops- ah, the troops seemed to understood the value of firepower long before the concept became a watchword in the officer corps. I and others have long held that 'technology dictates tactics.' Here's an example. Imagine yourself going into a fight with a muzzle loading long gun. Number one, you can't reload the thing lying down- you have to be standing up to pour powder down the barrel, shove in a projectile, ram the whole thing home. You need fire superiority to win engagements- the only way to obtain overwhelming firepower with frontloading long guns is to have troops standing in mass formations shoulder to shoulder, so as to cram the most possible single shot slow firing weapons into the smallest space on the battlefield. Is that something you'd like to be a part of? Well, me neither, thanks.

It took vast amounts of drill to discipline troops to stand for the kind of punishment large formations in close order took on those historic battlefields. In fact, the high stiff collars on some military uniforms of the time were designed to keep troops from being able to turn their heads, to prevent them from looking to either side and seeing the carnage among their comrades. Of course, there were always NCOs nearby with swords to 'close the ranks' and discourage turning and running... .

So, suppose some yesteryear defense contractor came along and offered you a weapon that is NOT a frontloader. You don't have to be standing up to load the thing under fire in the open field of battle, it loads at the breech, not the muzzle. And you don't have to load powder, ram home a projectile, then prime the thing in order to fire it- reloading is now one step, not three. Would you think this was a revolutionary development?

With the above as a given next step, suppose a year later the same contractor shows up with a magazine gun using self contained cartridges that allows you to reload the thing with a simple movement of one hand. How would you feel now? You can stay behind whatever cover there is, prone, kneeling or standing, and fire repeatedly AND QUICKLY until you have to recharge the magazine. Would you be overjoyed at this new development or what?

There was a time in history when being 'heavily armed' meant exactly that- you had to be carrying a separate firearm for every one or two shots you were going to fire rapidly. You were literally weighed down with iron if you needed to be prepared to shoot several times in rapid succession. I recall reading descriptions of early travellers in dangerous areas, carrying one or two long guns and several single shot pistols in order to be able to fight off attackers.

If you give this state of affairs some serious thought, you will understand what a comfort a Colt revolver or two could be among those who lived 'in harm's way.' And this was long before the era of the repeating long gun firing self contained cartridges- there were revolving cylinder long guns, to include shotguns, available at the time- but they took a LONG time to reload when empty.

So we progress, from frontloading single shots and repeaters, to breech loading single shots using self contained cartridges, to repeaters using self contained cartridges. Note that all this happens over a pretty short time period, relatively speaking- from the first Colt revolvers in the late 1830s to the black powder cartridge repeating rifles of the 1860s. Over the next 30 years a lot more changed as well. Priming systems standardized to centerfire for large bore rounds and became more reliable, cartridge cases became stronger, cartridge designs standardized, and new firearms designs were produced to use them.

Even so, the self contained cartridges of this era still used black powder, you will remember. If you've never used a black powder repeater, you are unfamiliar with the quantity and obstructiveness of the fouling that black powder produces when it is fired in a mechanical device. It was a problem in the early lever action shotguns manufactured by Winchester, and caused issues in Winchester's earliest slide action repeater, the Model 1893, as well. ( http://www.texasranger.org/dispatch/11/Pages/Winchester.htm )

Never heard of the Winchester Model 1893? Well, don't worry. But before we cover the history of this ancient cornshucker, let's talk about a couple of even earlier pumpgun designs.

First was the Spencer pump design of 1882. Though it looks a bit odd by modern standards, its design was essentially the same as today's slide action repeating shotguns. It was of conventional design- tubular magazine under the barrel, sliding forearm reciprocation on the magazine and actuating the bolt inside the receiver etc. The Spencer was designed and produced as a sporting gun- its utility as a fighting shotgun was mainly recognized by customers. See a picture at http://www.armchairgunshow.com/images/SG-1099.jpg .

The first genuine fighting shotgun with a slide action design was the Burgess. ( http://shootingbums.org/hvr/burgess.html ) Initially produced as a sporting gun in the mid-1880s, the Burgess was actually faster firing than the Spencer it competed with for sales. The Burgess had a reciprocating slide on its stock, rather than on the magazine tube. Realizing its potential utility as a riot gun or guard gun, Burgess produced the gun with a 20" barrel. Seeking contract sales, he had the gun demonstrated for Theodore Roosevelt, then president of the New York City Police Board, in 1885. The gun folded neatly in half when taken down and could be packed in a holster under a coat out of sight, loaded with six rounds and ready to be snatched out of hiding, flipped closed and emptied in about as much time as it takes to tell it. Exhibition shooter Charlie Dammon strolled into TR's office one day with a disarming smile on his face and a Burgess Folding Shotgun under his coat. Dammon exchanged a few pleasantries with the future president if the US, then suddenly whipped out the shotgun, snapped it closed and blasted off six rounds of blanks. TR was so impressed at the demonstration he ordered over 100 of the guns for the New York State Penal System (they were sold at auction in Canada in about 1920). Famous lawman Pat Garrett owned one of these interesting pumpguns. Burgess used this style of pump because he lost a patent dispute with Sylvester Roper, who was Christopher Spencer's partner in the Spencer Arms Company referenced above (the patent was #255,894).

Winchester was quick to recognize the competition to its own repeating shotgun designs and bought out the company from an ill and retiring Burgess in 1899 after several years of negotiations. All the available Burgess guns were then withdrawn from the market and Winchester converted the machinery used to make them to its own uses.

Gonna take a break here, and return later for Part Two of the impromptu history lesson- if y'all want to hear it, that is.

lpl/nc
 
Exhibition shooter Charlie Dammon strolled into TR's office one day with a disarming smile on his face and a Burgess Folding Shotgun under his coat. Dammon exchanged a few pleasantries with the future president if the US, then suddenly whipped out the shotgun, snapped it closed and blasted off six rounds of blanks. TR was so impressed at the demonstration he ordered over 100 of the guns for the New York State Penal System

OMG!

Try to picture this today!

Rob Leatham strolls into Michael Chertoff's office to extol the virtues of the Springfield Micro Compact as an issue CCW for DHS. So he shows up wearing running shorts and a t-shirt and no gun showing. After the requisite handshakes, etc., he reaches into his shorts and whips out the little .45 and fires 7 shots.

Chertoff is so impressed that he offers Leatham's family a nice funeral at DHS expense...:p

...and has the management of Springfield Armory charged with terrorism...
 
If there is a uniquely American firearms design, the pump action shotgun is definitely it. Well known shotguns in other countries are almost always side by side double barrels, and the companies which produced them have names that are practically household words all over the world. But in America the best known shotgun is the pump, despite the popularity of finely made double barrels or the rising appeal of various semiauto designs.

Derisively referred to as a 'shooting machine' in more highbrowed company, the American pumpgun has found a place in the hearts- and closets- of American sportsmen since before the turn of the 20th Century. And due to its obvious advantages as a weapon, it quickly found a place in military and police armories, as well as those of security and express companies, correctional systems and in the hands of private citizens seeking an economical yet effective means of household defense that could double as a hunting gun for all seasons.

We've briefly covered some of the earlier slide action repeating shotgun designs to appear in the late 19th century. But one aspect of the question that started all this blather was, why did the lever action shotgun fade away and the pump action shotgun gain so much popularity? Well, the reasons are several, but the main ones narrow down to economics, as is so often the case.

The incomparable genius of John Moses Browning presented Winchester with its first slide action repeating shotgun design, based on his Patent #441,390, granted in late 1890. Spurred on by the success of the slide action rimfire rifle Model 1890, also a Browning design, the company wanted to produce a slide action shotgun as well. Even so, it took an additional two years of work by Winchester engineers to get the handmade prototype received from Browning redesigned into something that could be commercially produced. So it was that when the first guns finally came off Winchester's line, they were designated the Model 1893.

The Model 93 did not have a smooth and happy life, however. As soon as it made an appearance, Winchester was slapped with a patent infringement lawsuit by Francis Bannerman, who at the time was marketing slide action shotguns assembled from parts left by the failed Spencer Arms Company. Winchester won the case on a relative technicality in 1897. I should have noted earlier for clarity's sake that this was the same Spencer who was famous for designing the Spencer Repeating Rifle, known (along with the Henry rifle) during the late war as "that d***ed Yankee rifle that could be loaded on Sunday and shot all week." ( http://www.bufordsboys.com/UnionCavalrymanIV.htm )

Winchester had a hit on its hands with the Model 93. It was selling well, despite some teething problems that kept Winchester engineers working on it constantly to improve the design. And it showed up in fighting trim early along, with barrels shortened to improve handiness- whether by the factory or by individual gunsmiths is not known. The gun was quick at repeated shots, faster than the Spencer design and on a par with the Burgess, and it was a major factor in developing the popularity of the slide action design in the US. About 34,000 were sold during the four years the gun saw production. It was widely available, relatively reliable, produced by America's most renowned gunmakers, and most importantly was relatively low in cost.

But its fate was sealed by the next major development in firearms techology- smokeless powder.

The problem was not so much the design of the Model 93 as the steel used in its manufacture. Black powder is a low pressure propellant, but not so the new smokeless powders. And the new standard 12 gauge shell was 2 3/4" long, requiring a longer receiver as well. So the 1893 got a makeover, and emerged with a solid top to its longer receiver and full side ejection for added receiver strength. It also got a slightly redesigned action to cure a couple of faults (a shell guide on the right side of the lifter to keep rounds from falling out of the ejection port as they were lifted to the chamber, and an action slide lock connected with the fore-end requiring it to be moved forward slightly before the action unlocked).

With these changes in place Winchester began producing the Model 1897 pump shotgun, and things have never been the same since.

But we still haven't answered that pesky question- what happened to the lever action shotguns Winchester was making? Weren't they popular too, and why didn't they stay on the market?

Well, the Winchester Model 1887 lever action shotgun had come about because at the time Winchester was world famous for its lever action rifles, and wanted a shotgun design to join that lineup. They turned to John M. Browning, who in 1886 received a patent for a repeating shotgun using Winchester's trademark lever action. Interestingly enough, the patent drawings (#336,287) show it as a large bore rifle.

Winchester wasted no time getting the gun to market, though tooling up for production took about a year. Guns were manufactured in both 10 ga. and 12 ga. It took little time for Wells Fargo express messengers, ranchers and lawmen to discover the utility of the new shotguns, and soon they were turning up with cropped barrels in stagecoaches and saddle scabbards all over the West.

But the Model 1887 suffered from the same major shortcoming as the Model 1893 pumpgun- it was designed for black powder, and could not stand up to repeated firing with the new smokeless powder loads. So Winchester redesigned the lever gun with stronger steels, and released it as the Model 1901, in 10 gauge only. And here's where the economic angle comes into play. Winchester was having great success with its new slide action designs, with Bannerman not manufacturing any parts to continue producing the Spencer design and having bought out the Burgess design there was no competition for the pumpgun market. And Winchester did not want to compete with itself, by producing multiple designs for the same basic market. Since the 12 gauge was selling strongly in the new Model 1897 pump, Winchester execs saw no need to produce the 'new' model 1901 in the same gauge. Anyone who wanted a 10 gauge repeater could buy a Model 1901, if you wanted a 12 gauge repeater then there was the Model 1897 to choose from.

Apparently the new smokeless powder shotgun shells were so much more effective that the popularity of the 10 gauge declined pretty rapidly. It might have been a mistake for Winchester not to offer the Model 1901 in 12 gauge, but it's all water under the bridge now. Winchester stopped producing the Model 1901 in 1920 and turned all its shotgun manufacturing efforts to producing Model 1897s. But the Model 1901 continued to be popular in some circles- when bad man Clyde Barrow and femme fatale' Bonnie Parker were killed outside Gibsland, Louisiana in 1934, there was a Model 1901 10 ga. with a 20" barrel among their travelling arsenal. ( http://texashideout.tripod.com/guns.html )

During the years that the two lever gun designs saw production, about 78,000 were sold. By comparison, the Model 1897 was produced right on through World War 2 and after, until 1957, and over one million of them were made (http://www.winchestercollector.org/guns/1897shot.shtml ).

The Model 97 was a landmark shotgun in many ways. It was introduced in a riot version in March of 1898, and first saw combat early in its lifespan during the Philippine expedition starting in 1899, and was at war in every American conflict up through Vietnam ( http://www.jcs-group.com/military/army/1917new.html ). It also proved a great favorite of market hunters of the day, and could be almost as effective as the giant punt guns or battery guns they had used formerly, when fitted with extended magazines. ( http://www.intercom.net/~shoreman/market_hunting.html ) Far larger numbers of regular sportsman used it and treasured it as well.

lpl/nc
 
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My 1965 Gun Digest has an article about Burgess and his various guns, including the Roosevelt story. What's even more interesting (to me) is that there's a photo of a fellow shooting a Burgess shotgun with practically the whole mag's worth of spent hulls in the air. Must have terrific firepower for the time period.
 
Lee, you amaze me sometimes. Thanks for all that.

Pumpguns have survived because they fill some needs better than other designs and do it relatively inexpensively.

I make no pretense of objectivity.Close to 50 years of nigh perfect performance leaves me biased as heck.

As for those sneering at our "Shooting Machines", I wonder if they ever shot any Wobble Flurries.....
 
Teach me to ask a question

Now you done went off and learned me something.

I guess one of the reasons I ask this is because one of the rifles I wish I had never gotten rid of was a Rem 760 in 35rem. One of the fastest, easiest brush guns I've ever handled. Things should have a bigger following
 
Thanks for the flowers, folks. Some stuff came from the web sites listed in the text, most of the outline is courtesy of Mr. Swearengen's excellent reference _The Worlds' Fighting Shotguns_. The basic concepts of understanding developments in firearms technology and their relationship to tactics has to be credited in my case to then- MAJ Arthur Alphin (later of A-Square, http://members.aol.com/vetvsatf/A-Square_Challenges_BATF.html ), for his exquisite series of videotaped lectures and live fire field demonstrations with the actual weapons being discussed, delivered years ago when he was instructing at West Point.

Hope it helped,

lpl/nc
 
Left Hand Charlie Damon

I'm new to this forum. I discovered it quite by accident while researching the Burgess Folding Shotgun. My maternal grandfather was C.A. (Left Hand Charlie) Damon. Sorry to dredge up an old thread, but I have some great pictures of Charlie doing his thing with the Burgess (see Lee's post above). Trouble is, I can't figure out how to post photos! Also, I'm interested in any photos of the Burgess that I might be able to use in an article I'm writing. Thanks.
 
However I cut my teeth on lever action rifles and still think the pump is smoother and quicker.

If smoother and quicker is what ya want, try the auto, or maybe the double barrel. :D After a few duck hunts with my pump, I'll take the auto out and hurt the palm of my hand on the checkering trying to pump the damned thing. ROFL. It does it for ya and, not only that, there's less recoil to slow that second shot.
 
Between my wife and I, we own 4 Winchester Model 1897 shotguns, including one Black Diamond Trap gun. Three are takedown guns and my wife shoots a solid frame. All have had their chambers relieved for the use of modern 2 3/4" shells, with star crimps.

These are sweet guns and it's amazing how well they've held up. My wife's gun was made in 1899, and other than a pitted bore, it's in great shape. The one I shoot the most was made in 1912, and it's in very good condition.

Thank you, Lee, for your very interesting history lesson. I knew some of it, but learned even more from your informative posts.

Fred
 
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