duncan
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CAS700850 said:
They are made in Ohio IIRC.
With all the HI-POINT guns out there which is..........
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They are made in Ohio IIRC.
\duncan said:
Just to be clear here, sub 1 MOA at 25 yds are groups of 0.262 inches ... now dracphelan may have been "optimistic" about his wife's 2" groups (which by the way would be 7.6 MOA) but I didn't see any claims of sub-MOA accuracy ... except from Duncan's P7, and now my BS meter goes off ... 'cuz even my Marvel 22 conversion in a Ransom Rest won't do THAT
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dracphelan
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mosttoyswins said:No offense intended, but I call BS shooting 2" groups from 25 YARDS with a Hi Point...
There was a big discussion about group sizes at 25yds. on TFL and the concensus was shooting those kind of groups consistently at that distance with combat handguns is reserved for the elite shooters. I shoot at least twice a week and can carve one ragged hole at 10yds with my Sig P226. 25 yds. is a different animal, 4 to 5" groups are considered "good", hell 8 on a plate from 25yds is OK with a pistol.
Defending Hi Points are one thing but overexaggerating their performance to try to make a point is another thing.
PS: If your wife can shoot these kind of groups with her Hi Point she she quit whatever she is doing and shoot professionally...just think what she could do with a tuned up bulls eye shooter! Probably put 10 shots in the same hole at 25yds!
I talked to my wife (it's been a couple of months since she went shooting). She said it was 15 not 25 yards she was getting 2"-3" groups. Still not a "shotgun pattern".
Crosshair
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Just remember to say no the the ProMag 15 round 9mm Carbine mags. They are junk. I own 3 of them and they just sit at the bottom of my "Junk Bin" now.
mosttoyswins
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dracphelan said:
As I said before no offense intended
!2-3" groups at 15 yds is very believable! Your wife is a good shot, better not piss her off
!CAnnoneer
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It is nice to own things one can be proud of. Hi-Point just ain't it.
duncan
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saands said:\
Just to be clear here, sub 1 MOA at 25 yds are groups of 0.262 inches ... now dracphelan may have been "optimistic" about his wife's 2" groups (which by the way would be 7.6 MOA) but I didn't see any claims of sub-MOA accuracy ... except from Duncan's P7, and now my BS meter goes off ... 'cuz even my Marvel 22 conversion in a Ransom Rest won't do THAT
Saands
I misuse the term. You're right, 1 MOA is 1" group at 100 yards.
Sub-one inch groups or catapillars at 25 yards - with my snob gun.
Javelin Man
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I have a Hi-Point .45 and they come with ghost rings that you can install. I was tempted to install them instead of the open rear sights, but at 25 yards with the open sights, I plugged the bullseye once, and the other three shots were within two inches. That's a bigger circle than two inches, but it certainly isn't a shotgun pattern. My shooting certainly isn't as good as many of you fine gentlemen, but that heavy gun put the lead right where I asked it. Maybe next time I try at 25 yards, I'll have a different result, but that's what happened on that particular day. I usually shoot at 10-15 yards. Or meters.
Maybe I just don't know they can't do that so I go ahead and do it. Take my experience for what it's worth to you. I'm a teacher; my hide is tough.
I have a Hi-Point .45 and they come with ghost rings that you can install. I was tempted to install them instead of the open rear sights, but at 25 yards with the open sights, I plugged the bullseye once, and the other three shots were within two inches. That's a bigger circle than two inches, but it certainly isn't a shotgun pattern. My shooting certainly isn't as good as many of you fine gentlemen, but that heavy gun put the lead right where I asked it. Maybe next time I try at 25 yards, I'll have a different result, but that's what happened on that particular day. I usually shoot at 10-15 yards. Or meters.
Maybe I just don't know they can't do that so I go ahead and do it. Take my experience for what it's worth to you. I'm a teacher; my hide is tough.
charliemopic
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LMAOgudel said:i personally drive japanese car. although the name is japanese, but it is actually built in america by some of you hillbilly in tennessee
idahoberetta9000s
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I just recieved a Hi-Point 9mm for free, and I don't know whether to shoot it or hammer nails with it. It is the ugliest, most ungainly, poorly made pistol I have ever seen! I swear it weighs 8 lbs! I am going to sell it for $80 and now I can't honestly say I've never owned a Hi-Point.
hotpig
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I do not know why I waste time on this same post on every gun board. People who own Hi Points like them. People that do not own them hate them.I sell a lot of them to people that can not afford the big name guns. I sell to more people that use it as their first gun and graduate to other guns as they get more into shooting.
I realized as I was typing this that no one has ever had me sell their old Hi Point or use it as a trade. They always keep it or pass it along to a friend or family member.
I dislike the pistol but absolutely trust my life to the carbine. Mine are getting up there in age. When they finally wear out I doubt that I will replace them since I have too many guns now.
I realized as I was typing this that no one has ever had me sell their old Hi Point or use it as a trade. They always keep it or pass it along to a friend or family member.
I dislike the pistol but absolutely trust my life to the carbine. Mine are getting up there in age. When they finally wear out I doubt that I will replace them since I have too many guns now.
After I got the C-9 Compact dialed in I can take out five bowling pins with five shots most of the time. If I only "wing" a pin and knock it down, the sixth shot takes it off my improvised "table".
I can't complain about a gun that I only spent $145.00 dollars on NIB with an extra mag!
I can't complain about a gun that I only spent $145.00 dollars on NIB with an extra mag!
mfree
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I don't think it'd be too terribly hard to see that kind of accuracy out of a Hi-point, given one important thing... it's a blowback. The barrel is securely fastened to the frame... does wonders.
TonyB
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Any gun is better than no gun......
Ronnie
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If all the people out there that hated the Hi-Point actually owned or shot one[more tha once], it would really surprise the heck out of me. Mine has been around for about 10yrs or so,Dad got it as to carry while he was working the garden,and feilds.It is now mine,this thing has seen 1,000's of rounds and has yet to let me down[I take care of my firearms]. It isn't the most accurate handgun I have ever owned, that was a model 10 S&W in .38 special,but it certianly is accurate and reliable. Not fit for concealed carry, but definitly fit for home defense and carrying in the car.
If all the people out there that hated the Hi-Point actually owned or shot one[more tha once], it would really surprise the heck out of me. Mine has been around for about 10yrs or so,Dad got it as to carry while he was working the garden,and feilds.It is now mine,this thing has seen 1,000's of rounds and has yet to let me down[I take care of my firearms]. It isn't the most accurate handgun I have ever owned, that was a model 10 S&W in .38 special,but it certianly is accurate and reliable. Not fit for concealed carry, but definitly fit for home defense and carrying in the car.
duncan
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duncan said:Hi Points and other cheap sub $200 guns - even my Kel Tec P32 fits here:
Glocks, Sigs, HKs, SW PC, and other $400 plus handguns:
I'd rather have a gun made by reputable manufacturer.
Please remember, inexpensive guns are carried by the likes of gangsters, rappers, and street thugs. I'd rather not carry or even own a brand that is used frequently against our police officers.
And besides, I prefer the curvy blonds compared to da pig!
R.W.Dale
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duncan said:I'd rather have a gun made by reputable manufacturer.
Please remember, inexpensive guns are carried by the likes of gangsters, rappers, and street thugs. I'd rather not carry or even own a brand that is used frequently against our police officers.
And besides, I prefer the curvy blonds compared to da pig!
So wich chick is the Hi-Point? I know I'd stay well away from one of them...
After all Pamela Anderson= tainted meat, what with the Hepatitis and all
varoadking
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Beat me to it...
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duncan said:
Taken from the website and the manual:
All Hi-Point Firearms are +P+ rated; they will handle all factory ammunition including Law Enforcement Only +P+ loads
Seems your information is very -P- rated........in other words its weak (or made up).
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.45acp
I have a 9mm and the .45acp. The .45 acp has not jammed yet (only 150 rounds) but the 9mm has jammed about 5 times with about the same number of rounds. Of course it always the first round that nose dives into the feed ramp. The .45 is more accurate but is is much more top heavy than the 9mm.
I have a 9mm and the .45acp. The .45 acp has not jammed yet (only 150 rounds) but the 9mm has jammed about 5 times with about the same number of rounds. Of course it always the first round that nose dives into the feed ramp. The .45 is more accurate but is is much more top heavy than the 9mm.
varoadking
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Remember that women have been lied to their entire lives about the actual size of an inch...
ezypikns
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It Was the First Center Fire Pistol I Ever Purchased
Not very accurate but totally reliable. 100% American made. Para, Springfield, and other really fine firearms can't make that claim. Clock stopping UGLY, yes. But I looked at a Springfield XD-9 Compact at a gun show this last weekend (I know, I know, it's an outstanding weapon and shouldn't be compared to a Hi-Point EVER), and believe me, it ain't winning any beauty contests either.
Buy a Hi-Point or don't but a Hi-Point, but maybe before criticizing them, your post should begin: "I had one, and......."
Instead of: "I heard that they........"
By the way, I did sell mine after I'd had it for about 3 months. It was just SO ugly.
Not very accurate but totally reliable. 100% American made. Para, Springfield, and other really fine firearms can't make that claim. Clock stopping UGLY, yes. But I looked at a Springfield XD-9 Compact at a gun show this last weekend (I know, I know, it's an outstanding weapon and shouldn't be compared to a Hi-Point EVER), and believe me, it ain't winning any beauty contests either.
Buy a Hi-Point or don't but a Hi-Point, but maybe before criticizing them, your post should begin: "I had one, and......."
Instead of: "I heard that they........"
By the way, I did sell mine after I'd had it for about 3 months. It was just SO ugly.
White Horseradish
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So you'd never carry a S&W? IIRC, up until fairly recently a .38 revolver was the most common weapon used by criminals and a lot of those were S&W due to huge production numbers.
That is an absolutely ridiculous statement. Blaming an inanimate object for the actions of it's user is what the VPC and their ilk do. Some company you keep...
Cousin Mike
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Here I go again...
I bought my Hi-Point about 5 years ago.I made some very long posts when I first joined THR, sharing my experiences in great detail about my jam-o-matic Hi-Point .380, how it couldn't expend a 9 round magazine without 2 or 3 failures, etc. etc. etc. The fact is, I owned one, I took it shooting often, I cleaned it and kept it oiled, I tried different ammo. Accuracy? Who cared about accuracy? It almost never shot a full magazine without malfunctioning. Obviously, I didn't have it long. In the end I'd have to say I love that gun, still to this day. Why? It taught me an important lesson. Don't buy cheap guns. I noticed you didn't ask about a Jennings or a Tec-9. Some people love those too, you know.
I thought I couldn't afford a high-quality pistol. I worked a dead-end job at the time and didn't make very much money. I grew up poor. None of this was the problem. The problem was that I didn't want to save up 3 or 4 paychecks for a pistol. I wanted it now, and all I got this paycheck was X-amount of money. Anyone who has a job, a computer and the internet can buy a decent pistol. I didn't pay more than $600 for any of mine. And as someone already said in this post, once you shoot quality pistols, you won't ever go back to shooting Hi-Points.
1" groups at 25 yards? Priceless...
I bought my Hi-Point about 5 years ago.I made some very long posts when I first joined THR, sharing my experiences in great detail about my jam-o-matic Hi-Point .380, how it couldn't expend a 9 round magazine without 2 or 3 failures, etc. etc. etc. The fact is, I owned one, I took it shooting often, I cleaned it and kept it oiled, I tried different ammo. Accuracy? Who cared about accuracy? It almost never shot a full magazine without malfunctioning. Obviously, I didn't have it long. In the end I'd have to say I love that gun, still to this day. Why? It taught me an important lesson. Don't buy cheap guns. I noticed you didn't ask about a Jennings or a Tec-9. Some people love those too, you know.
I thought I couldn't afford a high-quality pistol. I worked a dead-end job at the time and didn't make very much money. I grew up poor. None of this was the problem. The problem was that I didn't want to save up 3 or 4 paychecks for a pistol. I wanted it now, and all I got this paycheck was X-amount of money. Anyone who has a job, a computer and the internet can buy a decent pistol. I didn't pay more than $600 for any of mine. And as someone already said in this post, once you shoot quality pistols, you won't ever go back to shooting Hi-Points.
1" groups at 25 yards? Priceless...
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