With all the HI-POINT guns out there which is..........

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As a joke I bid $70 for a used Hi-Point .45. Imagine my shock when I won the auction. Got the thing in, and it was ugly as sin. Could not for the life of me figure how they made a half plastic gun weigh so much. Was almost afraid to, but took it to the range.
The thing was a jam-o-matic, but when it did fire it put the holes where I was aiming them. Ended up getting a SA 1911A1 GI and giving the Hi-Point to my little brother. Would I depend on this gun in a firefight, no friggin' way, but I got about what I paid for it.
 
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I had a Davis .380acp and it worked great. It never jammed but the front of the slide broke after about 700 rounds. I sent it in and they put a new slide on. When I got it back I sold it for $80.

I had a Jennings J380 and it never jammed but the slide bit my hand everytime. I traded it in and only lost about $15 on the deal.

I currently have a Jennings T380 (larger .380) and it has never jammed and is accurate too. Unfortunately this is one of the models that Jiminez Arms no longer makes.

I currently have a Hi-Point 9mm compact. It is very accurate but it jams occaisionally. I keep this gun because it only jams about 5-10% of the time and it is a range gun only. I figure I can shoot the crap out of it, return it to Beemiller and they will fix it or replace it for free.

I currently have a Hi-Point .45acp with polymer frame. I love this pistol. I have only shot FMJ through it and it has never jammed. It is EXTREMELY accurate.

I still have my faux pearl handle Raven .25acp. I paid $60 for this brand new at a gun show back in 1997. This gun has never jammed and is unbelievably accurate. At 35 feet or less it's almost as accurate as my Ruger 22/45. I'm not kidding! At over 35 ft accuracy is so so. I wish Phoenix Arms still made these. It is WAY better than the HP22 I used to own.

I still have my makarov. This is the first pistol I ever bought and it's still my favorite. It has about 1500 rounds through it and it has never jammed. I paid $170 for it brand new. The slide to frame fit was so tight when it was new, that you could look at the back of it and it looked like it was all one piece. After about 500 rounds the slide to frame fit loosened up quite a bit. It still keeps very tight groups. I've found that slide to frame fit on a blowback pistol is overrated. It doesn't always matter if it's loose as long as it returns to that same loose position everytime you're okay. It can be an indicator of how many rounds have gone through the gun though.

I also have a Carpati model 95 in .380acp. It's a good gun but you can't find parts for it. If something breaks I will probably have to make it myself or possibly modify a part from a Walther or PA-63. I got rid of my PA-63 because it jammed a lot and the recoil was worse than shooting a .44 mag.

Now by contrast I owned a brand new Auto-Ordinance (Thompson) WWII .45acp. I think I paid almost $400 for it. It was the biggest piece of crap I ever owned. It was a jam-o-matic. When it did fire it shot WAY left and WAY low and spit the brass casings into my right eye. Then there was the trigger. Sometimes it was okay at about six lbs and sometimes it went off with about 1/2 lb of pressure. Scared the hell out of me so I got rid of it.

Some cheap guns are good (or okay) and some fairly expensive guns are crap. I get rid of any gun that doesn't perform well. The only gun I have kept that jams is the Hi-Point 9mm and it doesn't jam that often. I know I can always send it in and they will fix it. The most surprising performers I have are the Raven and the Jennings T380 because I hear from a lot of other people that they are crap.

That's the low-down on the low-end guns.
 
Hi-Points are made in Dayton, if I remeber correctly, or at least, their main office is there. I think they used to be made in Mansfield. They're all over Ohio gun stores, and one place in Miamisburg advertises them as "Made in Ohio!."

That's got to be some source of pride, buying a gun made in your own state.
 
I got a 9mm hi-point as my first gun. It has performed flawlessly! Best gun i have!
 
If you don't have the money to buy something better than a Hi-Point than by all means buy one. I you do have the money to buy something better to defend yourself then I recommend a Ruger sp101. I personnally own a Hi-Point 45 and I love it. I wouldn't try to carry it around due to its weight and bulk but I can't fault it's reliability. I wish it was lighter, had better sights, and some aftermarket support. Do I regret buying it? Hell no! A very cool lead thrower for $170 OTD. A lot of fun as a plinker or back up home defense weapon. Surprisingly accurate. Not the best choice for defending your person though. BTW if they ever release the Hi-Point .45 carbine I'd buy one in a second.:)
 
Just remember, there is a reason they made the blowback slide on a hi-point so heavy. When its hopelessly jammed, you can bludgeon your attacker to death with it.:neener:

as for putting chevy parts on a jeep to improve reliability, that sounds about par for the course.
 
Hi-Points are made in Dayton, if I remeber correctly, or at least, their main office is there. I think they used to be made in Mansfield. They're all over Ohio gun stores, and one place in Miamisburg advertises them as "Made in Ohio!."

That's got to be some source of pride, buying a gun made in your own state.
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Their offices are here in Dayton for sure, just a couple of miles from my office. Not really sure if they make them in Dayton though. These are all over the place here in Dayton. I have many friends that own them. I've never owned one myself, but I have shot many of them. I've never seen a problem with any of them myself, they all shot perfectly. Thankfully I can afford better, but if that's all I could afford, then that's what I'd have. I've heard stories about older ones that had quality problems, but they seem to have worked them out. I think you can get lemmons no matter what you buy. I do have to agree that they are not the best looking gun around, but it doesn't have to be pretty to take care of business. Personally, I'd rather own a Hi-Point and be armed, than be unarmed because I'm too proud to own an cheap, ugly gun.
 
good gun

I have owned my C9 since 07 before I got out of the Marines. I've put about 2, 250rnds through it and it only jammed a few times at first. I shot it once when I returned home then it sat, cleaned only 2x in the last 2 years. I took it out yesterday to do a maintainance shoot with 50 rounds, not one jam, not one problem. And this was AFTER 2 years of not shooting it and only cleaning it twice. Its a good gun and I also have a Springfield 1911A1 GI that I shoot to. I shoot both of them. My C9 was about $190 total. So in my opinion and experiance, it has (mine does atleast) the reliability of a Glock, the looks of the a drunk manufacture and the weight of a paperweight. This is just my C9. Each gun is different. This is the most reliable 9mm I have fired. My groups wernt that bad either, 2 -3in groups at 25 yards, even that was at a rapid fire rate. No shotgun pattern, not one single jam. Would I gamble my life with it in a SD situation? Actually, yes. I had to bet my life on an M16 and a M249 SAW (made by the lowest bidder) with no problems, so yes. I would use this pistol. Again, this is based on my own personal experience and opinion with my C9. I've seen high dollar Glocks explode when fired by Marine Force Recon and a few SEALs. I've seen many weapons malfunction on the shooter but this C9, given the same neglect that made Glock famous, is reliable.
 
Save your money and buy something worthwhile.
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Just out of curiosity - you base this recommendation on what personal experience?
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I certainly do. Taking both my Sigma 9mm and my friend's Hi-Point 9mm out to the range, we each shot Remington UMC, Blazer Brass, PMC, and Winchester White Box through the guns.

In my gun, everything shot fine, albeit nobody was a big fan of the trigger. Through the Hi-Point, WWB was jam-o-matic (5 out of 10 rounds jammed) and the rest were less problematic, although there were jams on every mag but the UMC I believe. He'd (tried to) put about 500 rounds through it, so it wasn't the stiff mag spring issue.

He got rid of it, but I'm glad I sprung the extra money to get something that hasn't been problematic. This is really only the 9mm that I've noticed. I've seen the .40 go through magazine after magazine without a problem.
 
You know iv'e been researching these guns for awhile and guys can get pretty steamed up over these guns.
Some say" there junk , there crap,dont waste your money" others say" its the best 150.00$ i ever spent" or like myself," i dont know!"
Ive looked at them, almost put money down on the c-9 and then again the carbine but could never bring myself too buy one.
Im deffinitly not a gun snob i own a little of everything, even a rough rider witch some people hate and mine, for WHAT ITS WORTH, fires every time.
So i guess it realy comes down to personal choice and sometimes you should just take a chance, heck for the price what can you really expect.
Besides you know what they say about opinions.
 
I think one thing to remember is that just like with scopes, not everyone will like or use or like the same gun. My best friend loves his Glock 17, but I hate Glock, and yes I have fired a Glock, a G22 to be exact. Didnt like it at all. I have shot his Bushmaster XM15, he swears by it, I wasnt a fan of it but I liked it. He has never fired my C9 but tells me up and down that I wasted my money, with no personal experiance. I tell him its still a decent gun but he still goes by online oppinion rather then experience. I agree with frankiestoys, some hate them, some like them, some dont care. I just know that mine fires with EVERY trigger pull
 
I heard hi points are great if you want to feel powder burns on your face everytime it fires. And the fear factor of the gun possibly blowing up in your hand.
 
I've never had powder burns from mine. Not sure how they would even do that. As far as exploding the barrel seems to be plenty robust.

There's a lot of these guns out there, has anyone ever heard of a first hand experience with a kaboom?

I'm not saying these don't have flaws but I don't think they're inherently less safe than the majority of other guns out there.
 
I own some very expensive guns. (Sig Elites, Harrison/Les Baer) They perform flawlessly and are very accurate. Thing is, a carry gun is going to get beat up possibly confiscated at some point. At least until you are cleared for "a good shoot" . I would rather have a cheaper but reliable gun that is expendable. For me the top end of cheap is Glock and Hi Point the bottom. A Keltech, Taurus or Smith is in the middle. I have a Keltech p3at that can go anywhere, and I might try a PF-9 too. That or a Glock sub compact. I wouldn't care if those got beat up or taken.
 
I dont know about you.. but I can put every shot with any of my guns through the same hole ever time...
 
I own a .40 caliber Hi-point, it was my first gun, its very reliable and accurate. The downside of it is that the Hi-points are very heavy and definitly not for CCWs but in return you don't have much of a recoil on it. Here recently its been jamming but its just every now and then. Other than that I think this gun is a great value for somebody who wants to buy a cheap and reliable gun just to target shoot with.
 
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I have had the full size 9MM for several years. at least a thousand rounds, no jams shoots just fine. I never understood why the bad rap. I am going to buy another soon.. great gun for plinking and home def.
 
My first gun was a hipoint 9mm with a compensator. It was cheap and had a lifetime warranty sounded like a great deal to me. It came with two mags, I don't remember how many the extended one held. The 8 rd mag worked good, I don't remember any problems but the extended one would jam on almost every shot. Eventually I just used the 8 rd mag. I know i could have contacted hipoint and got a new mag but I'm lazy.

I almost gave up shooting because I just didn't like shooting this gun It was too small for my hand and would hurt after shooting it awhile. I thought if this was what shooting pistols was all about it wasn't for me. Then a friend of mine got a baby desert eagle in 45. I loved shooting it and thought maybe it was the caliber I didn't like. By that time I was making better money and on his suggestion of getting a better gun I got a Beretta px4 in 45. I loved shooting it, couldn't hit anything but the ground because i shoot 45's low but its a problem with me not the gun.

I also found that I had began holding a very high grip and would engage the safety by accident. I lost confidence in this firearm completely because of this. I admit it has nothing to do with the gun its my shooting style but if a gun doesn't work for you then you need not use it. I sold it and bought a sig 226 in 9mm.

My only advice is try shooting one first or atleast hold it and see how it fits your hand because a gun that is not comfortable for you to shoot will not be shot.
 
If Hi-Points are so bad, how come you can't find them used?

As many as there are getting sold new, you'd think that they'd be thick on the ground, discarded by disgusted buyers.

I've never bought a Hi-Point pistol 'cause I like to buy my guns second-hand!

BTW, I finally bought a 995 carbine - but I had to buy it new!
 
When did those High Points start getting good? The 380 and 40 I've seen you can't even shoot a magazine without jamming. Also, you can shake the gun side-to-side and it rattles. Under $150 sounds good, but it must feed and eject reliably or it's not even worth that.
 
To those curious about Hi Points.

Pay close attention to the opinions of those who have owned one or shot one extensively.

Ignore everyone else.
 
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