Would it bother you if your daughter...
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PennsyPlinker
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I sure hope that isn't why I got three!
But in all cases, when boys have arrived, I have taken them aside and told them, "I might look like an old and feeble fart to you now, but I know all the things that are going through your mind, and all the things you are thinking about my daughter, because I have been there before you as a young man. My advice is don't even think those thoughts. They are dangerous to your health." 
To keep this gun related:
My husband used to be an Episcopal priest. He assured my daughter as she was growing up that all future boyfriends would be met at the door with him (1) wearing full vestments and (2) bearing a shotgun.
She really believed him for quite some time.
Springmom
My husband used to be an Episcopal priest. He assured my daughter as she was growing up that all future boyfriends would be met at the door with him (1) wearing full vestments and (2) bearing a shotgun.
She really believed him for quite some time.
Springmom
I guess your daughter will just have to bail HIM out if there is trouble.My only daughter is married, and carries regularly; OTOH, my son in-law
cares nothing 'bout firearms, and doesn't try too learn self defense tactics~!
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ZeSpectre
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I'm afraid I'm with the group that thinks your wife has a serious double standard going on here.
Claude Clay
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i should trust him...i ccw'ed him & still coach him. he ~relieved me of my h&k 45 w/ custom IWB holster. my daughter comes of age next year & has laid claim on my s&w 32 h&r mag. been shooting since she was 7. modesty aside, she is good.
Clipper
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Camslam, try telling her to look on the bright side...My daughter's husband couldn't qualify to legally purchase a gun, let alone carry one...
Im283
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Boys do not have carry permits, period!
What I find funny here is all the machismo about letting your daughter date someone based on them having a carry permit. If she is dating someone who has a carry permit obviously the man is an adult and more than likely your daughter is an adult too. If you daughter is an adult what are you gonna do? Tell her to drop that guy or else? I think you ought to raise your children properly and then trust them to make choices for themselves.
Most of this thread reads like you are the little princesses guardian or something. If she is 16 and dating a man 21 or older there are issues aside from guns. If she is an adult then treat her like one.
If my kids had friends with carry permits it would make me happy as it is something else I would have in common with them.
Houston Tom
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Like I would let my daughter date.
camslam
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Im283: I don't think the thread is about the idea of:
The thread was a simply gathering some opinions about whether or not someone would have concern or a problem with their daughter dating someone that had a concealed carry permit. It was something I had never thought about up to this time.
Regarding letting your daughter date someone, I won't speak for everyone on the thread, but I hope when my daughter is of the age when she starts dating, until the time she gets married, that I will have a strong enough relationship with her, that she would ask and value my opinion on those types of things.
That being said, this thread has been worthwhile because when I shared the following post with my wife, she gave a thumbs up and said, "I would agree with that."
The thread was a simply gathering some opinions about whether or not someone would have concern or a problem with their daughter dating someone that had a concealed carry permit. It was something I had never thought about up to this time.
Regarding letting your daughter date someone, I won't speak for everyone on the thread, but I hope when my daughter is of the age when she starts dating, until the time she gets married, that I will have a strong enough relationship with her, that she would ask and value my opinion on those types of things.
That being said, this thread has been worthwhile because when I shared the following post with my wife, she gave a thumbs up and said, "I would agree with that."
Thernlund
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Ummm... yeah. If.
I have, and I do. But they always have something to learn, as do I. Thing is, the stuff that they still have to learn is the stuff I already learned. The stuff I still have to learn is the stuff my dad already learned. He's not dead, so he still has something to teach.
I don't care if she's 14 or 40. I always have something to teach her. I'm here to catch and help correct mistakes UNTIL I DIE. Not just until she's 18/21/whatever. My influence on her (and her influence on me for that matter) never stops. I am little princesses guardian, make no mistake. That's my job.
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cmidkiff
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I'm a father of 4 daughters...
My oldest is at Ft. Leonard Wood, in basic training. Probably doesn't have too much time to date at the moment, but I guess she can date anyone she wants. She's probably more likely to date someone who is familiar with firearms, but it's really her choice. In any case, she's quite capable of taking care of herself.
Next oldest is 15, then 13, then 12... They won't be dating anyone old enough to get a CCW permit any time soon. In fact, they won't be dating any time soon... By the time these girls are old enough to date, they'll have the skills and tools to defend themselves if needed. It's my job to make sure they have the ability to do so, and I don't take the responsibility lightly.
As far as my liking any of the boys my daughters bring home... not much of a chance of that. I was a single male once... Doesn't matter who the kid is, I'm not going to like him.
My oldest is at Ft. Leonard Wood, in basic training. Probably doesn't have too much time to date at the moment, but I guess she can date anyone she wants. She's probably more likely to date someone who is familiar with firearms, but it's really her choice. In any case, she's quite capable of taking care of herself.
Next oldest is 15, then 13, then 12... They won't be dating anyone old enough to get a CCW permit any time soon. In fact, they won't be dating any time soon... By the time these girls are old enough to date, they'll have the skills and tools to defend themselves if needed. It's my job to make sure they have the ability to do so, and I don't take the responsibility lightly.
As far as my liking any of the boys my daughters bring home... not much of a chance of that. I was a single male once... Doesn't matter who the kid is, I'm not going to like him.
JesseL
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Currently I only have a son who's looking forward to his first birthday next week, so this is pretty hypothetical for me.
If a guy looking to date my daughter had his CWP, I would consider it a big plus for him.
The first time I met the man that was to become my Father-in-Law, was because I was taking his daughter and my younger sister shooting and I had realized I was short of earplugs. My wife (girlfriend at the time) suggested that rather than buying earplugs, we should just borrow some from her Dad. He seemed impressed that I was not only taking his daughter shooting, I took safety seriously too.
In the years since then my FIL has become a good friend, hunting & shooting buddy, and helped fund my first steps into reloading (where he easily recouped his investment by having me load for his S&W 500).
If a guy looking to date my daughter had his CWP, I would consider it a big plus for him.
The first time I met the man that was to become my Father-in-Law, was because I was taking his daughter and my younger sister shooting and I had realized I was short of earplugs. My wife (girlfriend at the time) suggested that rather than buying earplugs, we should just borrow some from her Dad. He seemed impressed that I was not only taking his daughter shooting, I took safety seriously too.
In the years since then my FIL has become a good friend, hunting & shooting buddy, and helped fund my first steps into reloading (where he easily recouped his investment by having me load for his S&W 500).
littlegator
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Guaranteed is a stretch, but I see what you're saying. At the time he CCW was issued, the applicant can't have been convicted of a felony. But, there are those who were charged with a felony and charges were reduced in settlement negotiations with the DA's and ratified by the court at sentencing. Also, there are a ton (I know, ambiguous, non-verifiable statistic...that happens to be true.
) of DV's that go unreported. Additionally, the boyfriend at issue could have been convicted of charges appurtaining to a minor/juvenile that will most likely be sealed "delinquency" convictions and not actual "criminal" convictions. Just playing devils advocate.
In any case, I have 4 kids and they will have been properly taught by me and others to be responsible gun owners as well as by the time they are old enough for CCW, including my daugher. Hopefully when the time comes, I can trust them to CCW responsibily and honorably. Hopefully when the time comes, when my daugher is dating (when she is over 30 and out of my house...
...just kidding) she will date guys worthy of her. Of course, these are all just hopes. CCW isn't going to happen until she is 21 and the guys she dates will be about the same age as her - at least they should be at that age 
. In other words, who she dates at that age and whether they CCW or not will be her decision, not mine, despite my best efforts to make sure she is safe for ever and ever. And if by chance she is dating a CCW holder who also happens to be honorable and good, then I hope they get married and live the life I do with my wife.
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lucky_fool
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My daughter just turned seven and I'm already having nightmares about her teenage/twenties years. Assuming that he isn't a thug, the fact that a future boyfriend carries is going to go at least a little way toward me considering him almost good enough for her.
I'm not going to tell her that, though. She's smart enough to see through this but my plan is to pretend to like the ones I hate and pretend to hate the ones I (almost) like.
I'm not going to tell her that, though. She's smart enough to see through this but my plan is to pretend to like the ones I hate and pretend to hate the ones I (almost) like.
JamisJockey
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As long as he had a valid permit and didn't carry a Glock. And has the full understanding my high-maintenece daughter is going to want a BFR (Big F****** Rock) and a custom Kimber with pretty engraving that costs 3 months salary.
Dr. Peter Venkman
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Houston Tom said:
Thread winner.
FortyCalGlock
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I think I was 14 when I met my first gun toting dad. I went over to the girls house and her dad was cleaning a huge revolver at the kitchen table. (I believe it was in anticipation that I was coming over) Anyway we start talking about guns and hog hunting and I made a friend. The girl and I didn't click and she would get mad when I came over to talk to her dad.
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by the time my currently non-existent daughter is old enough to date, I have to believe that I will have raised her well enough that she will be able to accurately judge a potential suitors character all by herself. Not to mention that any children I have will be taught the skills, and given the tools to take care of themselves. If I've done the parenting right, the rest will sort itself out without any need of my blessings or prohibition.
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I'm no father at the age of 16.
If I ever have a daughter, then I will have to know any boy she wants to date either by reputation or by acquaintance.
If I wouldn't trust the guy with a loaded weapon, then he's not right for my (nonexistant) daughter anyway.
Here's an interesting thought:
When my (nonexistant) daughter is on a date with a boy, the way I see it is that that boy is responsible for her safety. I'd be a bit miffed to know that he would not be prepared to meet a person wishing to harm him or my (nonexistant) daughter.
(I'm a bit traditional about these things, but if that's not the way you live then well that's your life and I can tolerate it)
If I ever have a daughter, then I will have to know any boy she wants to date either by reputation or by acquaintance.
If I wouldn't trust the guy with a loaded weapon, then he's not right for my (nonexistant) daughter anyway.
Here's an interesting thought:
When my (nonexistant) daughter is on a date with a boy, the way I see it is that that boy is responsible for her safety. I'd be a bit miffed to know that he would not be prepared to meet a person wishing to harm him or my (nonexistant) daughter.
(I'm a bit traditional about these things, but if that's not the way you live then well that's your life and I can tolerate it)
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Something seems to be reminding me of the movie Meet the Parents here. How about this one for all of you. "Would you date a girl if her dad was anti-gun", I know I wouldn't even think about it.
The first day I met my girlfriends parents, I had my AR in the car. After about an hour my gf tells asks her dad if he wants to see it. He's kind of ambivilant, but her older brother does. So I go out to get my rifle case
He doesn't seem to have an issue with it (he did 20 years in the Navy) and her mom I dont really know what she thinks, aside from EVERYTHING is dangerous (skate boarding/bicycles/ backpacking etc)
When i got my M&P 40 they also were shown- along the lines of "this is what Im taking backpacking with us to make sure nothing happens to your daughter"
Half the time they are speaking in tagolag(sp) so I have no idea what they are talking about, although they don't seem to mind
He doesn't seem to have an issue with it (he did 20 years in the Navy) and her mom I dont really know what she thinks, aside from EVERYTHING is dangerous (skate boarding/bicycles/ backpacking etc)
When i got my M&P 40 they also were shown- along the lines of "this is what Im taking backpacking with us to make sure nothing happens to your daughter"
Half the time they are speaking in tagolag(sp) so I have no idea what they are talking about, although they don't seem to mind
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Yeah.
I was 17 and fresh out of high school.
She was 15, I believe. We'd go places in my '59 Ugly Bug.
Her parents invited me to go bowling with them (the family).
I was useless at bowling. Just hopeless. I remember my first 100+ game. Woo hoo.
Her parents laughed. And that was fine.
And then her parents decided I was a "nice boy" and . . . the relationship went downhill really fast after that.
She just could not handle the idea that her parents liked me.
Anything but that.
Oh, well. Probably for the best. Their last name was Adams. Gads. I would have been related to the Adams Family. Can you see me explaining that to my kids? "No, Billy, it's different; Grampa Adams only has one 'd' in his last name, okay?"
Yeah.
Yeah.
I was 17 and fresh out of high school.
She was 15, I believe. We'd go places in my '59 Ugly Bug.
Her parents invited me to go bowling with them (the family).
I was useless at bowling. Just hopeless. I remember my first 100+ game. Woo hoo.
Her parents laughed. And that was fine.
And then her parents decided I was a "nice boy" and . . . the relationship went downhill really fast after that.
She just could not handle the idea that her parents liked me.
Anything but that.
Oh, well. Probably for the best. Their last name was Adams. Gads. I would have been related to the Adams Family. Can you see me explaining that to my kids? "No, Billy, it's different; Grampa Adams only has one 'd' in his last name, okay?"
Yeah.
littlegator
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As it pertains to me and my 3 boys, I agree. However, my daughter is responsible for her own safety and no on else. She has to rely on herself or she is at the whim of others, including her date, which is not acceptable. My father had a disciplinary rule that he didn't tell me until I was on my own: when I did something wrong and needed to be punished, he could ground me from the car. When my sisters did something wrong, he would not ground them from the car, but would find another disciplinary action. The reason, was because my dad wanted my sisters to be responsible for their own transportation so that they were not at the mercy of their date to transport them. The car is a form of control over the person who doesn't have it. My daughter should not be at the mercy of her date, and she can CCW when she is old enough. Her date will just have to accept that.
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