Would you let 2A be a factor in a major life decision?

[rbernie]

If were in your mid to late twenties (I'm assuming many of you either are or were), and had to pick graduate school based upon that being where you'd spend the majority of your life (the state), would you let 2A be a factor in choosing the location?

When I was in my twenties, my answer would have been no. I just didn't grasp the significance of all of this kerfuffle.

Now that I'm almost twice that age - you bet your sweet bippy.

 

[DragonFire]

You have to decide what's important to you. It's not just your 2A rights, but your entire way of living. It will affect how you live your life, and how your kids will live alot of theirs.

Do the positives of going to school X, and living in that state outweight the negatives (with maybe the biggest being not being able to defend your life and family)?

 

[Zundfolge]

• I will not move to a city or state that I would have to give up even one gun, CCW or the option of owning NFA items.
• I would not date or marry a woman that was anti gun (I'm already married to a pro-gun gal, so this one is moot).
• I will not take a job with a company that actively attacks the 2A (and frankly I probably wouldn't take a job with a company that has overt policies against CCW).
• I will not start any friendship with someone who is anti gun (and I've pretty much distanced myself from old anti gun friends that I had before I got so bull headed).
• I will not do businesses with businesses that post anti CCW signs (regardless of the fact that they carry no legal weight here in CO).
• I will not do business with businesses that actively attack the 2A.
• While I won't cut them off 100% I have severely limited my connection to family members that are anti gun (which is only one relative ... and I never much liked them anyway ).

 

[iamkris]

At this time in your life, you have much more flexibility to make those calls.

I'm 42, have a very-well-paying (but not that fun) job, 3 kids, great house and community, wife and I are well established with friends, family and neighbors. I also live in the near-communist state (from a gun law perspective) of Illinois...I'd love to leave but the aforementioned factors are difficult to uproot. No CCW, must have Firearms Owners ID card to possess a firearm, no NFA, very anti-gun Governor and Chicago population.

Better to make these choices before the "epoxy has a chance to set" so to speeak.

 

[romma]

MA, IL, HI, or CT

Wow, I know CT has it's troubles, but please do not lump us in with any of those states... We are far better than any of them.

Shall issue, Normal Capacity Mags, I have an AR15, No ID to Purchase Ammo, etc;

 

[buck00]

I live in a gun friendly state (PA). I can CCW here. I like it, but if I was offered a job for $200 k a year in MD or NJ, I'd have to do whats best for my family. So I would move there knowing I couldn't CCW anymore.

 

[MrPeter]

Moving to a state that would allow my 2A rights to go uninfringed upon has much more to do with me than just my hobby. Those states tend to have other restrictive laws that hinder my other rights as well, which is something I will not tolerate.

I won't live in NY because of their 2A laws, sure, but I also won't even set foot in that city because they pass laws that infringe on my 1st amendment as well. There are countless other restrictions on my behavior in places like that which are guarenteed to me because I'm a human being, and I won't let them take any of them away. (In NY specifically I'm not even allowed to be served certain foods because they're "unhealthy").

Added note:
I have been planning for some time to take a roadtrip around the USoA, to see what there is to see. I was raised in WA, but why should I live here just because of that circumstance? The internet can't tell me everything I want to know about every state, but it can tell me the laws, which is a big factor for me. I figure I'll get my motorbike and pack a few things, make a map of the US and mark the states that have trump laws or circumstances in them, like IL, and just take a month off and go. When I find a place I like, I can stay there a while and talk to some locals, and see if the people are decent folk (you can't really look up so easily if people are jerks online) and not racist or offensive or anything, and then make a mark. Then I plan to go back to those places when I get the chance and stay there for a bit longer. While I am still young is the only time this will be possible for reasons mentioned earlier in this thread. I'm already thinking Montana for legal, climate, and property value reasons, but I'm worried about the people (no offense, I haven't met any Montanians except one Korean who had many scars from the daily beatings he got simply because he wasn't white), but I digress.
I guess I'm just trying to encourage you to use your youth and not make the mistake of winding up in IL where you will eventually sprout roots and stay, even if you're not happy.
You should come on the road with me! ;-)

 

[Mannlicher]

of couse

 

[30 cal slob]

where to live?

absolutely.

in fact, i did just that. i moved from a lousy RKBA jurisdiction (NYC) to a more friendly place (Gunnecticut, where you have CCW and NFA goodies, even if there is a silly assault weapons ban).

i'm eyeing Virginia right now but have to convince to Missus to budge.

 

[slabuda]

They way I look at it you can "Work where you live or live where you work" Well id rather work where I live. Meaning Id rather live in a place i want to (Idaho when i retire from the Air Force) and possibly not have as high a paying job, have the grand vacations etc. than live someplace where I cant do the things that make me happy even if I live in a smaller house, have a average car and meager vacations. Money doesnt buy happiness its the little things in life.

 

[fletcher]

If were in your mid to late twenties (I'm assuming many of you either are or were), and had to pick graduate school based upon that being where you'd spend the majority of your life (the state), would you let 2A be a factor in choosing the location?

Yes. Part of the reason I chose mine was the location. I have decided that I will never live in an anti-gun area.

 

[Cannonball888]

86 replies and only one from Kalifornistan. I guess the THR Calis didn't let the state's anti-2A laws be a factor in a their decision to live in CA?

 

[eldon519]

Even if the guns weren't enough, alot of anti-gun states have plenty of other fruity laws that would keep me away from there anyhow.

 

[Geno]

I want nothing to do with any politician, any state or any country that does not respect me and my Constitutional rights. Yes, I have already faced such decisions. At a youthful 28 years old, I was offered the Headmaster position of an American school in Mexico. I turned it down, because I would not have been allowed to take my firearms.

 

[joe4702]

Yup. I'm interviewing for jobs outside of CA. Sick of the existing gun laws and the constant parade of harebrained gun control schemes that are proposed any time the legislature is in session (which is almost year round). Biggest single reason is may issue CCW (practically no issue in San Diego). Tired of having to chose between obeying the law or being able to defend myself and family outside my home. Currently looking at AZ since it's a reasonable driving distance to family in SoCal.

 

[TallPine]

I'm already thinking Montana for legal, climate, and property value reasons, but I'm worried about the people

Well, you should be - people like me live here

 

[RyanM]

I live in a gun friendly state (PA). I can CCW here. I like it, but if I was offered a job for $200 k a year in MD or NJ, I'd have to do whats best for my family. So I would move there knowing I couldn't CCW anymore.

I dunno. Is being unable to defend your family in public really what's best for them? Especially given the fact that Maryland has about 66% more violent crime per capita than PA?

 

[starboard]

I think, if you've got other good career options, law school doesn't make a lot of sense as an investment unless you end up in one of the very top ones. The difference in employment options on graduation from #5 vs #50 is very substantial, I hear.

So if you want to be a lawyer, go to a top school and carry a mousegun concealed regardless of whatever stupidity passes for local regulations. If you are smart about it, no one will ever know. Or carry pepper spray and a good knife - nice combo when used together.

I don't lose sleep over breaking local regulations that impinge on fundamental rights, of which I consider 2A to be one. My family's safety comes before what the liberal elites got put on the books. Perhaps this is morally reprehensible and not High Road (tm) to some, but I find it a healthy and refreshing approach to life in this law-crazed society of ours.

 

[JamisJockey]

I voted yes. I refused to consider a few locations for our move from Utah with 2A being on the top of the reasons why not. The wife and I are in a powerful position of being able to consider a second home purchase in the next few years. Same thing....I refuse to consider Maryland because of the 2ndA laws in that place.

 

[Travis McGee]

The 2A was a big part of my decision to leave Kali for Florida.

That CCW sure is nice. And so is my AR.

 

[CU74]

When I as 20 I was riding submarines in Uncle Sugar's Navy and was too dumb to understand the importance of the US Constitution. Age and experience has change all that, (I spent 25 years in California). Check my signature line.

When was the last time you wrote your congress-weasel? Making 2A a factor in your life decisions isn't enough - your legislators are making decisions for you.

 

[lionking]

where I would live yes.Commiting to a woman?...if her or relatives gave me such flak as to suggesting I give them up.....I'll stay with my guns.Career opportunity such as going overseas for a while,I can do without guns while Im over there as long as mine are here when I come back.

 

[M2 Carbine]

In the early 70's I turned down a very good job working for the state of Illinois and IBM in Maryland because of the state's anti gun/anti 2nd Amendment laws.

No regrets.

 

[.cheese.]

When was the last time you wrote your congress-weasel?

last week

 

[jonjon1885]

well ct was not all that bad for guns except $30 hr range fees nowhere esle to shoot, 6-8 months and a few hundred dollars later. Not to mention the 4 letters of recommendation form non family members, clean background check (ANY crime other than traffic will get you denied) fingerprints for state police and FBI, oh and people being scared of YOU (not the gang members and crack heads and real criminals) when they find out that you own and/or carry, and the liberalness. Oh wow thats right, now I live here in happy AZ. I just went down to starbucks with my S&W model 29 .44mag open carry at the hip no one even batted an eye.

Once I was printing in new haven and almost landed in jail and lost permit, just for walking past a super lib cop . M oral of the story **** of any anti state and make a break for freedom in the REAL USA.