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Shouldn't that be: "die Ausweispapiere mich aufweisen!! Mach snell !!
(dunno, my german is pretty rusty.......)
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+1What in the world is there left for us if we become a police state because Islam declared war on us? Isn't political liberty why you love being an American? We have a declared enemy. Fight them, not us. For every act of mass murder committed against us by Islam, nuke an Islamic "holy site" or city. Just a small nuke, or maybe even a nutron bomb. Start with those in nations that support terror the most. We bombed Dresden, Tokyo, Hiroshima and Nagasaki in WWII. How is that different? Those civilians weren't personally fighting us either. They have to be made to "feel our pain."
You bet they are. Why? We are searching the wrong people!
Sorry but right now profiling is a necessary evil but we can't do that, nope not in the slightest. I flew out of Austin, DFW, and PDX a lot after 9/11 and what I saw was nothing short of disgusting!
I would stand in line at the checkpoints for 30 minutes waiting for my time to go through and get felt up by some punk but middle eastern men sure as hell were not getting felt up like the others. If they did not set off the metal detector they were waived right through and they never got pulled aside for the random gate checks either. When I went through and did not set off the metal detector I had to remove my shoes, had my carry on searched and tested for explosive traces, stand their spread eagle as every inch of my body was being felt up by some guy with curious hands all while my belt is undone and my pants were falling down from my ass. I never once saw a single middle eastern man have to remove his shoes before it became mandatory.
.... and don't even get me started on the harassment I watched the TSA put a poor women who was like 80 and in a wheel chair! I damn near beat the crap out of the snotty punk who treated her like a piece of garbage and his humiliating orders to her at the checkpoint were the ultimate slap in the face to being an American. I swear to God he was either on a power trip or trying to get her to perform for his own personal sick amusement.
Yeah, this is amazing. Even people I thought were staunch conservatives, when I express my anger about this, say, "Well, you know it's a different world now after 9/11." They don't seem to see the bigger picture. What are we fighting for if not our liberties under the Constitution? This is nothing less than the very soul of our nation, for Pete's sake. "What does it profit a man [or nation] if he shall gain the whole world and lose his own soul?" We are exchanging our nation's soul (the liberties men fought and died for from 1776 onward) for a temporary sense of false security. I would much rather take the slight chance of being a victim of terrorism than lose even one of my precious liberties under our Constitution. How far we have strayed from the words of Patrick Henry, "Give me liberty or give me death."
Since the change of the political party in charge has not made a difference, who’s really in charge?
Excellent article! President Ron Paul in 08!Here is a great article by Ron Paul defining and describing what a neocon is.
What nonsense! If that's what you got from Representative Ron Paul's article, you must be on drugs.Must be the Freemasons, Illuminatis, Skull & Crossbone graduates and Bildeberg members.
The next terrorist takes a cab. Or drives one...
Where are our Patrick Henries today?
A huge part of the problem is that the rest of the Muslim world, while not actively bombing us, sure as heck isn't doing much about preventing the kind of hateful indoctrination and financing that breeds and funds terrorism. Complacency might as well be a tacid endorsement. I say practice what you supposedly preach and prevent this kind of murder and intolerance by seeking out those who murder in the name of Allah.
Refusal to consent is not probable cause.
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Since the change of the political party in charge has not made a difference, who’s really in charge?
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Must be the Freemasons, Illuminatis, Skull & Crossbone graduates and Bildeberg members.
What nonsense! If that's what you got from Representative Ron Paul's article, you must be on drugs.
It's been mentioned here the subway searches are useless and a huge waste of time. Nothing could be further from the truth. These searches are part of a conditioning campaign - and they are VERY effective. The people are getting acclimated to being searched, and this is an important step down the path toward totalitarianism.
I'm not "The Real Hawkeye" but I'd like to respond to this anyway.You seem to know it all about what you don't like, but like most folks can't come up with an alternative. Simply not doing anything isn't an option. Surely you can see that. Reread my first post. I'm not argueing with you, just saying that I'm ready to agree that something has to be done.
You are implying that those who prefer that America should remain the home of liberty are "happy" when innocent people are killed. I don't think that's fair, and you deserved a bit of a shove for doing it.San408 Said: Hey, what the hell, let's just not do anything then. Make you happy?
I guess the quotation marks mean you think that's a silly idea, and in this I agree.What else should be done? The folks in charge are under ALOT of pressure to live up to their "responsibility to keep Americans safe". And we all know they cave to any pressure.
Well, you do all sorts of things, like tightening the boarders, taking another look at our immigration policy, traditional criminal investigation, and then there's diplomacy and military action. What you don't do is change our nation into a police state.I don't much care for the searches either, and I certainly wouldn't want to be one of the poor souls that has to do that job, but in all seriousness... What do we do? Do we just sit and wait to get hit again? Does anyone else think that being proactive is better than being reactive?
If you are one of the good guys, then I apologize. I'd have to be a psychic, though, to know you were being facetious, since you gave no clues to that fact in your post.Cut back on the coffee dude. I was being facetious. It just happens to be the same question asked when "they" talk about the the goal, purpose and make up of those "secret societies."