Check out the Sig p238, if you are interested. It’s like shooting a cordless electric stapler. So mellow.The same can be said of 380s. Those guns are generally lighter than 9mm guns. My Taurus pocket 380 is no fun to shoot.
Wow. Four different manufacturers sold guns in 9mm Ultra, and who has ever heard of it?
Wow. Four different manufacturers sold guns in 9mm Ultra, and who has ever heard of it?
The capacity of the gun industry to generate minutia is limitless. What other industry can change a single spec by one millimeter and claim to have invented a new product?
Goldangit Cleetus, I done told you we needed 9mm Federal Rimmed like normal Americans, and here you go bringing back some gun aint no one ever heard of!Find a guy that bought one of those and you'll find a guy that thought it was something else....
Wow. Four different manufacturers sold guns in 9mm Ultra, and who has ever heard of it?
Check out the Sig p238
Chris makes a lot of sense most of the time, and I also believe a hammerless (or shrouded hammer) S&W J-frame is the ideal pocket pistol (though I'm trying a bobbed SP-101 lately). A hammerless J-frame or similar has an inherent snag less design which allows a smooth and fast draw (as fast as possible from a pocket anyway). I've never been able to quickly draw a semi-automatic from a pants pocket holster as consistently with a full firing grip. The square shape of the rear of the slide will inevitably hang up and slow the draw or cause a fumble.The Lucky Gunner has me convinced that the ideal pocket pistol wheelgun is the 32 H&R Magnum but we’re talking about autoloaders here.
Closer to 380. Nowhere near 9x19 in power or effective bullet design.Where does the 9 Makarov fit in? Half way in between the 380 and the Luger? Closer to one than the other?
I know that the Russians still use high pressure, armor piercing 9mm Makarov rounds.
I picked up a P365SAS, a ported version, this gun is amazing for rapid fire strings! I agree, a bit chunky for pocket carry, but not too badCertainly a pleasant shooter, but too big for my pockets.
The 365 is in a odd niche for me, too big for my pockets but doesn't shoot as well as my other belt guns. With my hand geometry (wide palms, short fingers) I just couldn't find a grip to rally lock it in under recoil, especially rapid fire. Great accuracy slow fire for the little gun.
Perhaps the XL with a hogue grip would have worked better for me.
But for this discussion, I really like a small gun for pocket, BUG, carry and something like a .32, perhaps a .380.