Tcruse
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Yes, a good plan. Now, the danger is that the new people from WA will still vote for liberal politicians to make Idaho just another failed state.
Messed up situation in Washington State.
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Old Dog
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As they will in other states when the young libs migrate to warmer, sunnier climes with a lower cost of living, since no one who makes less than $400K/year can afford mortgages/rents in Seattle/King County anymore. Just like when all the Southern Californians who could no longer afford to live there migrated northward throughout Oregon and into Washington... now it's an eastward and southward migration (Idaho, Nevada, Montana, Arizona, Texas,Tennessee)...
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My heart is broken twice! I lived in SF Bay area for 6 years and seen it happened there and Now in one of the most AMAZING state I ever lived in is going down the poop hole. My North Carolina friend don’t understand when I tell, I’ve lived through a collapse of society in the name of a Socialism. And back to Guns & History, tyrants takes the gun first and the rest after. My best years are ahead of me, and I can’t live here! I need to fish, hunt, shoot, and feel free from tyrant and control
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I hate to say it… but you RED state don’t make them feel welcome!
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Does the Washington State Constitution have the RKBA in it ?
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Tinman357
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While there is a RKBA in the WA constitution, Jay Inslee ignores it just like the US version. Violates his oath of office regularly. No one questions it when he does.
Dudedog
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For those of you in free States, remember all of us who would like to flee our oppressive states,
1. Have probably contributed money to try to fight what's happening there
2. Do not want to change your state to be like the place we plan on leaving, that's why we are considering leaving/leaving
I frequently see comments about people leaving CA and "polluting" other states.
I donate money to the CRPA which currently has a couple cases that they are fighting about CA laws,
"Assault rifle", mag limit, approved handgun list etc.
Some of these we won in District court, got kicked to the 9th and we won, enblanc 9th we lost, SCOTUS kicked it back to the 9th, which kicked it back to District.
If we win in District it will go back to the 9th and if we win there it might help WA.
People in a certain Circuit courts Districts should pay attention it what's happening in cases in that District and help, even if the case is not happening because of something your state has done/might do.
(very true in the 9th.....)
Some of us in CA have been fighting this for years, (with not much success) everybody in other States in the 9th (or your District) should help for cases in your area.
I don't care what people think about me, stopped caring years ago, but just because some of us might come from a state that is a cesspit, does not mean we want to change your state to be the same.
(of course some of the people who are leaving might want to, but not all of us....)
I would think we would be welcomed as "Comrades in arms" but it seems the general opinion is don't come here, your not welcome.
So I have to ask is it the "High Road" not to welcome your oppressed neighbors?
BTW I sold my blue car and bought a red one.
1. Have probably contributed money to try to fight what's happening there
2. Do not want to change your state to be like the place we plan on leaving, that's why we are considering leaving/leaving
I frequently see comments about people leaving CA and "polluting" other states.
I donate money to the CRPA which currently has a couple cases that they are fighting about CA laws,
"Assault rifle", mag limit, approved handgun list etc.
Some of these we won in District court, got kicked to the 9th and we won, enblanc 9th we lost, SCOTUS kicked it back to the 9th, which kicked it back to District.
If we win in District it will go back to the 9th and if we win there it might help WA.
People in a certain Circuit courts Districts should pay attention it what's happening in cases in that District and help, even if the case is not happening because of something your state has done/might do.
(very true in the 9th.....)
Some of us in CA have been fighting this for years, (with not much success) everybody in other States in the 9th (or your District) should help for cases in your area.
I don't care what people think about me, stopped caring years ago, but just because some of us might come from a state that is a cesspit, does not mean we want to change your state to be the same.
(of course some of the people who are leaving might want to, but not all of us....)
I would think we would be welcomed as "Comrades in arms" but it seems the general opinion is don't come here, your not welcome.
So I have to ask is it the "High Road" not to welcome your oppressed neighbors?
BTW I sold my blue car and bought a red one.
I don't want to engage in politics. I wanted to be rid of the loonies at castboolits and hoping I don't find them here. Politicians actually cause these problems in my opinion regardless of what corrupt party they belong to. I think the key is always focusing on the constitution and realizing there is always some interpretation. However, I am also in favor of states rights. I think our constitution is solid. I think the forefathers had a great vision. There is no perfect system and thinking a federal government to provide umbrella/international representation to all these different and diverse states was aspirational at best. It looks good on paper but has lots of flaws. Many interpret a citizen to have any weapon under the 2nd shall not be infringed. There are other reasonable opinions based on the fact that should the government use the military against its citizens, the citizens would be demolished due to the difference in weaponry. Also, giving access to citizens to things beyond small arms does not negate the criminal from obtaining them and using them. I am not saying I know the answer, just that I understand how people think differently. I want my right to acquire what I want to do what i want to do without infringing upon the rights of others. I am a patriot and retired military and i deserve to do and believe how I want. I also want the same for others.
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I am beginning to wonder if it’s not intentional to allow once great cities to turn into uninhabitable places.
If you can’t get the country to see things your way, just run your indoctrinated people out of it to go and destroy nice places. After all, people are not leaving CA for Chicago or NY for CA. Idaho, Utah, Texas and North Dakota have all had 20%+ growth since 2010. 20% in Texas is no small feat either as it’s #2 in total population.
Elkins45
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I’m pretty sure a measurable percentage of their members think the 13th Amendment was a mistake. It’s mostly just a cult now since all the really knowledgeable members have died or gone elsewhere.
Buzznrose
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That’s not exactly right.
I can't tell you how many times I've heard the following from progun people from other states:
My state sucked because <insert list of stupid laws>... I love Florida because you don't have those laws, but it's too easy to get a gun here. I think we need <insert smaller list of stupid laws>.
The prospective expats here might not be that type of people. But if any of you are, the moment a phrase like "but it's too easy to get a gun here", or "the way we do it up north" comes out of your mouth, most people will be polite. Just don't be surprised if someone gives you directions to I-95 north, and to the horse you rode in on.
CoalTrain49
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Lots of people moving from the west coast these days because of cost of living and jobs. A 1800sf house where I live will cost about 600K. I don't live in the metro King/Snohomish/Pierce county area either. CA and WA are liberal havens for people that make 4x the nat'l average income. If you don't you will be living in subsidized housing or with your parents. I know people in their 20's-30's who do both.
Most of the people who are migrating from CA aren't concerned about your RKBA. If they were they wouldn't be living there to begin with. Nope, they're all heading to places east for jobs and a lower cost of living. AZ isn't anything like what it was when I lived there in the 60's-70's. In 75 When I left there were 2.3 m people. Now there are 7.4 m. and the population increases about 1.5% every year. Most of those people are moving from CA. The same thing is happening in NV, ID and TX. Most of the people moving there are from CA. There's a beginning migration from WA also because of the cost of living.
Moving won't solve your RKBA problems for very long because along with you, lots of other people are moving there also. AZ used to be a conservative state. It's purple and getting bluer by the year exactly like it happened in WA. Took about 10 years but the CA emigrants changed the landscape.
CoalTrain49
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Depends on their politics I guess. Mostly the people I see moving here from CA are anti-gun types. Most of our population increase over the last 40 years has been people from CA. We now have an assault weapons bill about to pass in our legislature just like the one they have in CA. Not hard to imagine how that happened.
So I would say because there isn't any kind of AG scanner at the border rejecting the gun haters, you're probably better off without anyone from CA moving to your state. Believe me, a very large percentage of them are bringing their AWB mentality with them. It's sad, but I've seen it happen here. AZ and ID will be next. Hide and watch.
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irishlad
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I was born and raised in California. We were saying the same thing 50 years ago. Folks seem to forget California was a fairly conservative state. Heck Reagan was Governor. It was a sportsmans paradise. Lots of gun shows. People started pouring in and things changed. Politics changed. I left in 2000.
Dudedog
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Sigh,
I guess you should add WA in there as well, I mean look what those WA people are doing to their state.
Here I fixed them for you.
So I would say because there isn't any kind of AG scanner at the border rejecting the gun haters, you're probably better off without anyone from CA or WA moving to your state.
Most of the people who are migrating from CA or WA aren't concerned about your RKBA. If they were they wouldn't be living there to begin with.
(of course if it is Mark_Mark you should let him in because if he is there you will get a new a primer factory built then)
Just think now we can bash people in WA just like people in CA get bashed, I mean if one is fair the other must be too. RIGHT? (NOT)
I'm sure all the WA people will be happy to see posts here bashing them for their crazy state, if you live there it must be your fault for what the State did.
Yep don't welcome them, just look what they did to WA, you don't want WA people in your free state.
Funny now you can replace CA with WA. (or just add WA)
I'm sure I am beating my head against a brick wall, but it is not fair to stereotype people because of the state they live in, but then no one said the world is fair.
I learned a long time ago all people are not the same and you can't judge a book by its cover......
I feel sorry for the gun owners in WA, just like I feel sorry for gun owners anywhere that have to deal with this type of bovine excrement.
All I can suggest is to donate to fight it, it might be a losing battle but a battle never fought is a battle never won.
Hopefully some of the cases the California Rifle and Pistol Association (CRPA) are fighting right now will be won in District court, and then of course CA will appeal to the 9th.
A win in the 9th might make things better for those of you in WA who are not anti-gun.
(and if we lose in the 9th CRPA will take it to {or back to} SCOTUS)
If we win I can just think of all the anti gun people in WA saying look what those
CA people did to us, they messed up all the "good" laws we passed for the Safety of the Children......CRPA website for anyone in WA that might be interested to see what they are fighting or is interested in donating.
https://crpa.org/
Fighting mag cap limits, AWB ban, CA handgun roster, ammo purchases, and other things.
I wonder if we win in the 9th if pro gun people in WA will say look what those pro gun people in CA did for us.
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If all hope is lost! then Primers factories are like Willy Wonky Primer factorySigh,
I guess you should add WA in there as well, I mean look what those WA people are doing to their state.
Here I fixed them for you.
So I would say because there isn't any kind of AG scanner at the border rejecting the gun haters, you're probably better off without anyone from CA or WA moving to your state.
Most of the people who are migrating from CA or WA aren't concerned about your RKBA. If they were they wouldn't be living there to begin with.
(of course if it is Mark_Mark you should let him in because if he is there you will get a new a primer factory built then)
Just think now we can bash people in WA just like people in CA get bashed, I mean if one is fair the other must be too. RIGHT? (NOT)
I'm sure all the WA people will be happy to see posts here bashing them for their crazy state, if you live there it must be your fault for what the State did.
I'm sure I am beating my head against a brick wall, but it is not fair to stereotype people because of the state they live in, but then no one said the world is fair.
I learned a long time ago all people are not the same and you can't judge a book by its cover......
I feel sorry for the gun owners in WA, just like I feel sorry for gun owners anywhere that have to deal with this type of bovine excrement.
All I can suggest is to donate to fight it, it might be a losing battle but a battle never fought is a battle never won.
Hopefully some of the cases the California Rifle and Pistol Association (CRPA) are fighting right now will be won in District court, and then of course CA will appeal to the 9th.
A win in the 9th might make things better for those of you in WA who are not anti-gun.
(and if we lose in the 9th CRPA will take it to {or back to} SCOTUS)
If we win I can just think of all the anti gun people in WA saying look what those
CRPA website for anyone in WA that might be interested to see what they are fighting or is interested in donating.
https://crpa.org/
Fighting mag cap limits, AWB ban, CA handgun roster, ammo purchases, and other things.
I wonder if we win in the 9th if pro gun people in WA will say look what those pro gun people in CA did for us.
The wife and I keep saying the same thing but living in Huntsville we can see that sadly that era is coming to an end.
CoalTrain49
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I don't have a problem with that. Add OR to your list also but like the Wuhan flu that started in China, the liberal social experiment started in CA. and contaminated the entire west coast. Now it's working it's way east.
Fact.
2.4 million people from CA moved to WA in the last 40 years. CA on the other hand got most of it's immigrants from Mexico in the last 40 years. See a difference there?
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irishlad
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I don't have a problem with that. Add OR to your list also but like the Wuhan flu that started in China, The liberal social experiment started in CA. and contaminated the entire west coast. Now it's working it's way west.
Fact.
2.4 million people from CA moved to WA in the last 40 years. CA on the other hand got most of it's immigrants from Mexico in the last 40 years. See a difference there?
I remember back in grade school (60s), the teacher did a survey in our class of 25-30, and only 3 of us were born in California. None were from Mexico. My folks were from Utah and Colorado. It's horrible what's happened to CA. I had a great time growing up there. The duck, dove, quail and salt water fishing was awesome. Some days we'd surf in the morning and hunt desert quail in the afternoon. Change is hard.
Population went from 19 million in 1970 to about 38 million now.
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Ouch. Yeah. Huntsville is the wanna be ‘Bama “wanna be Austin,”
That's a bit harsh, we are no where near that bad.
Like most places, our issues come from people moving here from out of state, but those people also tend toward highly educated and successful scientist or engineer, who tend to be more libertarian, rather than the "I just want to smoke weed and hang out" extremist liberal type.
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The same thing happend to New England, I lived in Vermont 1956-1959, the old conservative values held sway-some towns still have the Town Meeting- then all sort of city people moved there, lower cost of living, better schools, didn't have the crime and corruption of the cities, but they turned it into what they left behind.
Most of the people I've worked with in technology don't have a problem with guns. That seems like the kind of people who would be moving to Huntsville. They may not be Republicans, but they're likely to be pro-gun.
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