Do you carry your semi-auto pistol with the "+1"?

Yeah, I do. For a 1911, there's a decent difference between 8 and 9 rounds

Always. I cannot regret having one extra round, but I could regret lacking one round.

Always. I cannot regret having one extra round, but I could regret lacking one round.

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+1

That's gotta be the best answer I've seen so far. It is perfectly to the point.

It depends on the gun my glock 23 I dont but my USP I do as the usp mags seem to be a little losser and i can actualy fit 14 rds into the 13rd mag but I carry 13 +1 in the chamber

Chamber yes, Top off no

I always +1 in any pistol that I carry. I have noticed the slug on +1 round in my 1911s get pushed into the casing after a couple of chamberings, so I have to watch it and rotate them out often. That +1 round could come in handy if needed.

Sounds like an issue unrelated to the +1 carry. I had a gun that pushed the rounds into the case and it was a bad feed ramp issue from a bad match on the magazine feed lip to the barrel feed ramp.

I manually fed it and watched as the bullet came out of the magazine and did not get enough lift angle off the magazine feed lip and go straight into the feed ramp which pushed the bullet into the case.

Well I know in the sandbox most folks are +1. Rack a round then top off mag. Just a little extra comfort to have that extra round. Of course when some of the boys are carrying 220 to 440 or better rounds as a basic load. A couple years ago I had 166 rds of 9mm and 371 rds of 556 and that was cause I was carrying other stuff(35 lb aid bag). Remember 100 lbs of lightweight stuff is still a 100 lbs. Better to have it and not need it, then not have it and need it. Which is why most of us carry concealed right?

If it ain't loaded and ready to fire with a flick of the thumb (safety), you may as well leave it at home...odds are you won't have time to rack the slide before you get shot.

If the folks in the sandbox carry +1, there's no reason for us in the dumpster to not carry +1.

I do carry chambered, but not always with a full mag+1. The reason being when I go to school I take the mag out of the weapon when I store it. I don't want a full mag plus 1 loose round rolling around, so I load the chambered round back in the mag when the mag is out. So when it's chambered, there is 1 less in the magazine. I carry a 15rd 9mm P99, so one more round really isn't all that big of a deal.

I do carry chambered, but not always with a full mag+1. The reason being when I go to school I take the mag out of the weapon when I store it.

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I'm just curious why you eject the mag at all when you store it and what the connection is with the school? Where are you storing it? Are you taking it to school with you?

Depending on the how and where you are storing it (like in your car), I can see not wanting to have the extra round rolling around somewhere.

What's the big deal of having an extra round out and about? You don't have any nooks and crannies to put 1 round in? If I need to unload my weapon in the trunk, the extra round goes in the side where there's a plastic shelf.

You can even just lay the round inside the trigger guard of your pistol, as long as the pistol is resting level. Trust me, it will not cause the gun to go off.

If you're worried about it rolling around, short of an earthquake, the round will be there when you get back.

We have to unload our weapons sometimes at the academy when we qualify because we use range ammo so we all have to unload our duty stuff. That extra round has always waited for me patiently in the trunk until I got back. Maybe it rolled around or played hide & seek while I was gone but when I open my trunk, it's always where I left it.

You only need to load two rounds, be an expert shot, and not get into situations where you'll be attacked by more than two people.

If 17 is too many and not efficient, then why even load 16? That seems inefficient too. Why not just plan on only being attacked by, at most, three BGs and plan on being able to stop them with, at most, two shots each. Then you only need to load your 16 round magazine with six rounds. That's so much more efficient than loading all 16...I mean that would take all day to accomplish. Not to mention, your gun will be lighter.

Sorry for the sarcasm.

So, really, the idea of shortchanging your firearm's capacity doesn't seem all that efficient. If you don't max out your firearm, laziness disguised as efficiency isn't a good reason. If you seriously don't think you'll need it, fine that's your prediction on the future. My prediction includes the +1, but no extra magazine (at least not on me). That's my prediction on the future. Other people predict that they might need a few extra clips. I notice that the police tend to think they might. I wonder if they +1 also...

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Why would I load only 2 rounds and consider being an expert shot good enough and what does that have to do with anything? It doesn't take more effort to slam in a magazine that holds 16 rounds than it is individually load 2 rounds in a derringer and there's a huge difference and advantage between increasing capacity from 2 rounds and 16. There isn't one between 16 rounds and 17.


But it would take significantly more effort to do +1 when I already have 16 and going to 17, then having to stash the extra round somewhere when I unload, and having 17 is not enough of an advantage to matter. That's what I mean by efficiency- what I get back for the effort I put in. Even with a 1911 or lower capacity pistol, I'd certainly do +1 because it'll provide over 12% increase in capacity.
I don't think you understood what I was trying to say.

+1 yes always.

noone has ever complained about bringing too much ammo, but there's been several about not having enough.

rule #1 of a gun fight has always been to bring a gun... i suspect rule #2 of a gun fight has always been to bring ammo to keep gun in rule #1 running.

Yup, but then again, my 9mm is double action so I do keep it on safe.

...it would take significantly more effort to do +1 when I already have 16 and going to 17, then having to stash the extra round somewhere when I unload, and having 17 is not enough of an advantage to matter. That's what I mean by efficiency- what I get back for the effort I put in. Even with a 1911 or lower capacity pistol, I'd certainly do +1 because it'll provide over 12% increase in capacity.

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I don't know...it takes all of about 5-10 seconds to drop the mag, top it off, and put the mag back in. Not having the total your gun will carry doesn't seem efficient. And as Doc2005 said

I cannot regret having one extra round, but I could regret lacking one round.

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And what you get back for the effort you put in is huge. 5-10 seconds of your time for a whole other round is a great trade off. Doesn't matter if your firearm holds 6 or 30. If you are shortchanging yourself just because you don't want to spend the few seconds it takes to top off, then I can't call that efficient.

Now, I will give you a little credit for not wanting to deal with an extra round laying around. However, this isn't a problem for me. I have an efficient system that involves keeping the mag and the extra round next to the gun and I'm efficient enough that I've never misplaced the extra round or gotten it dirty or gunky or allowed it to roll around the cabin of my car or let my dog eat it.

But I do realize that for others it isn't that easy and they will likely end up with sticky goo from their cup holder on the round or lose it and discover it one day when the vacuum cleaner explodes.

So if you aren't efficient enough to manage the extra round, I say kudos for knowing your limitations.
(I'm actually serious about that...please don't read any sarcasm into that last bit because it truly isn't there)

I just don't bother. I either carry a 12 or 17 round semi-auto.

+1 The time to rack one in could be when you breathe your last breath.

I should add that I never have situations where unauthorized people (like kids) can get near my autos.

...or just don't have kids.

just kidding. in our house, unattended guns are condition 3. only time it's condition 1 or 2 is when it's on someone.

+1. My primary carry gun is a Bersa 380 magazine is 7 so +1, same numbers with my RIA 45 and standard mags. I hope to God never to need any shots, but if I do I want as many as I can have available in a few seconds.

As to the extra round when I unload, they always go in my golf shoes, right next to where I put the guns when they are in the trunk. It tickles me to see my friends faces when I dump a couple rounds of 45acp out of a golf shoe before we tee off.

Deac

I always carry with a full mag and one in the pipe. I see no reason not to.

A friend of mine always switches between empty and full chamber, and it drives me nuts. When he's around home he carries with an empty chamber, but if he's going on a longer trip he chambers it. You ask me, that's just begging for a ND.

I always have 1 in the chamber but sometimes it is the first one out of the mag not +1 other times it is +1. So I voted sometimes.

I always carry with a full mag and one in the pipe. I see no reason not to.

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That about sums up my thoughts on the question.