Anyone, Besides Me, Wanting to De-Tacticalize?

You guys are just jealous you did not have guns painted in 70's era tie-dye, that showed up under blacklight as did the posters of Jimi Hendrix, Cream, Yardbirds, Who, Rolling Stones, Janis Joplin...

Anyone remember the poster of Farah Faucett?

You stick one of these on the high and low house on a skeet field, and folks get rattled.

Defensive shooting"
One of these Farah posters as a hostage target is interesting. Guys will not shoot the hostage target, but some gals will make one ragged hole in it.

I used to shoot with a couple of brothers that were Cherokee. They had their skeet guns, painted in "war paint".
Now shooting is a mental game. Not only would competitors get rattled seeing them guns, also the big knife on hip.
"Me might want to scalp white men, to trade scalps, for more shells".

Oh I was the dude on the squad with them, with the tie dye shotgun, hair in ponytail.
I would make an "entrance" with Hendrix blaring out of a muscle car, with racing stripes, Cragar mags, Hurst shifter and "Jim Beam for President" and Annie Green Springs for Vice President" stickers.

Or something along these lines. Just I was supposed to make an entrance...

"What is the Gov't Model of 45 / BHP/K frame/J frame for?" folks would ask seeing a side arm on my hip.

"White man might try to run away from being scalped by these Injuns on my squad. So as to not hold up the squad, I figger I would just pop 'em, let them scalp 'em and keep the squad flowin'".

WE had folks dropping birds that were on other fields. Which was the idea.
Anyone can shoot 100 straight, that is the easy part. The real competition is the shoot off.

So the less folks that are in the shoot off, the better the odds of winning the shoot off.

All folks have to do is drop one, or two birds, and we ain't gotta worry about them being in the shoot off.

Mental game...
Oh it important for the shooter to stay focused, just nobody said you could not rattle the dicken's out of other folks.


Mentors done a good job of mentoring me...

*evil grin*

I guess Ive always been a little anti tacticool, never really thought about it befor.

Wanna sell any of those Benchmades that aint doin it for ya anymore????

It all comes down to purpose. If you can't explain why you have it/need it bolted on to your rifle its probably tacticool. Nothing wrong with being tacticool as long as you don't expect the latest gadget to make you HSLD.

That said I think the AR is a great platform. Low recoil, light, high capacity, easy to use, and modular. An AR set up with a red dot and an adjustable stock could be used by just about anyone in the family to get hits out to 50 yards or so with very little training.

+1 for Ed Ames. I have yet to find too many guns I hate. I do go through phases, and I am 48. So it doesn't get any better, you young guys! If any of you have any guns that are just annoying you in your collections, please send them to me. I will provide the proverbial "good home" for these unwanted strays...

Nope

I am a Plastic/aluminum/alloy kinda guy.

If its lighter, stronger, and more corrosion resistant whats not to like, the fact that its not like grandpas? Not me, I'm glad I have access to better equipment than the previous generations.

"I'm talking about taking the AR-15 out my hand "

"I'm talking about taking the AR-15 out my hand and putting a Marlin 1894c in its place."




I'm starting to think along these lines with my Saiga. Just waiting to see if the urge passes. Also have a CZ75 Compact, but find myself shooting the wheelguns more.

De-Tacticaled SHotgun

I decided that I didn't like the EBR look of my Remington 870 HD.

Here's what I did :

I've got you by a few years but I still consider self defense to be not just a right, but a duty. I carry all the time and I'm set up for a major natural disaster. Just because I'm getting older doesn't mean that criminals are going to pass me over. On the contrary, they seek the weak and helpless, so the older you get, the more vulnerable you become and the more likely criminals are to prey on you.

I am back and forth continuously on this one...

I love my ruger gp100 357 and mt winchester 94 trapper in 357 and these would most likely be the two I grab first... "if"

Of course I also like my M1A Scout, which is kinda halfway between traditional and tactical I suppose....


And... I am on the waiting list for the Ruger SR556...

So looks like for the time being I am covering all bases!

John

Next: Get rid of the camera vest, 5.11's, and SWAT boots.

Seriously...

I have spent a small fortune on "tactical" accessories for my shotgun and various handguns. After having used these weapons a while, I have began the process of "downgrading" just a bit. Thus, keeping only the essentials and losing the stuff I once thought as "tactically necessary."

I still love and use certain items (such as tritium sights), but have developed new thoughts concerning such items as weapon mounted lights, lasers, etc. Dont get me wrong, I still see their usefulness and use them now and again. But, taken as a whole, Im no longer of the opinion that such devices are "necessary" when trying to develop a solid HD platform. I now tend to see such items as more useful for "search and destroy" situations vs. "stand and defend" type situations (ie., HD).

In terms of finish, I still prefer all black or all stainless or a combination thereof. Yes, I appreciate a nice wood stock or grip, but I prefer my weapons to maintain a certain "business" look, able to put up with wear and tear vs. a pretty and shiny thing worthy of residing in the finest museum, which would probably require a bit more maintenance and certainly more worry.

Oh, and Im not interested in making my weapons look like a billboard, an experiment or a piece of candy.

jes, post number 58

Hell yeah!

Texas is a whole 'nuther country!!

Interesting timing for this thread; 10 minutes ago I just put back up the model 94 after a good wipedown, I pulled it out of the safe after responding to another thread on whether it is enough gun for elk. I do get nostalgic, but for me, I have a hard time getting so nostalgic that I leave reason at the door for carry. I have a vaquero that would be cool to carry, but the G27 gets nod nearly every time. Unless I'm at the lease, where the glock just doesn't seem to fit. When I do succumb to nostalgia for city carry, it is a series 80 1911 that usually gets the nod. I have found myself admiring the un-modified yugo 59, a rarity for me to leave an sks alone, as well as the afformentioned lever guns. Even my battered, poorly headspaced nagant has been getting a good deal of attention lately as I try to re-connect with the greatest generation. Something about having to kick the bolt open to chamber another round of punishment is becoming enjoyable in my older age. I guess getting old and appreciating actual metal & wood firearms go hand in hand. I'm even using WD-40 on my guns now because I love the smell & grandad's guns never seemed to rust.

It's funny-- I too have been going through this "de-tacticalization" thing lately. I've got a Mossberg 590 set up w/ short LOP stock and a Surefire, but when I saw a scratched-up 18" Ithaca 37 at the gun store last week, it looked a lot more attractive than that heavy old Mossberg.

I've been getting back into shooting skeet the last 6 months or so, and have been putting all my shotguns through their paces. I've been disappointed with how slowly I swing the 590. It's had me looking at simple 5-round steel-and-wood kinda shotguns again for the first time in years, although I don't think I could live with that stupid bead front sight on a fighting shotgun...

And although I won't be getting rid of any weapons, I agree with some previous posters about lever actions: I've always looked at my 20" 1894 in .44 Mag and thought that if that was all I had, I'd still be sitting pretty.

WE had folks dropping birds that were on other fields. Which was the idea.
Anyone can shoot 100 straight, that is the easy part. The real competition is the shoot off.

So the less folks that are in the shoot off, the better the odds of winning the shoot off.

All folks have to do is drop one, or two birds, and we ain't gotta worry about them being in the shoot off.

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I can't. I'm happy with 10 out of 25.

I'm just coming up on 40 and I'm right there with you. I got the "tactical" out of my system in the marines. I now usually carry a S&W 638 in my pocket, and I wear cargo shorts or jeans, not 5.11 tactical trousers.......

Tactical Trousers

What a great name for a band.

Definitely agree that if your going to sell do it now, this rush will fall soon enough.

I classify myself as somebody who likes lots of tacticool stuff but I dont have any need for an AR. However rails on a mosin seem pretty cool to me.

It began with a Winchester 30-30 lever action and a Model 12 standing against the wall and .38 revolver on the chair.

Then came the first AR10, then the AR15. Wow! Then they came faster, the Valmets, the Famas, the M14s, the Sig AMTs, then the PE57s, the Sig 550s and 551s, whoa!...... The Detonics, the Kimbers, the Sigs, Holy Camoles!! Then the first of the Tacticals! the .223s, .308s, the .338s, they lined the walls!! Then came the Ultra Tacticals!! the 416s The the Cheytac Ultra Tactical Extremes!!! The the Ultra Tactical Extreme Snipers!!!! The a box appeared, labeled Ultra Tactical Extreme Sniper Excell END ALL!!!!...... I cautiously opened it and then............ A loud rushing sound, a flash of light!! A roar and.......... and it all disappeared, and there in the place of it all stood

a Winchester 30-30, a Model 12 and on the chair, a .38.

SP

Not intentionally. I went through a phase in high school when everything needed to be black or camo. I had a mindset that the military way was the right way to do everything. I have since learned that police, the military, and civilians have good reasons for doing things differently. I will still modify and accessorize, but it has a lot more to do with function than appearance. And I have a lot of gear that is bone stock civilian.

SP Shop Foreman, it was Deja Vu! I had lamented letting a nice 94 Winchester get away a year or so ago, and just had an aquaintance offer me one that was better than my old one. These are part of my "1952" guns (my birth year). The Colt Cobra I showed off in some other areas on the forum (and on the Colt forum). The Model 12 has been with me a few years, and used to have a poly choke that had to go. Now it's my home defender in riot gun configuration. For the most part, I could make do with these, and I carry the Cobra almost daily. Funny how things ain't that much different between Montana and Ohio............. [/IMG]

These three ladies are very disappointed with this thread.

sp

Interesting question. I have a few buddies that buy nothing but tactical stuff. Doesn't matter what it is as long as it's tactical. Tactical vest, tactical sling, tactical sights, tactical bag, tactical knee pads etc. I bought knee pads at home depot for 6 bucks and a pair of clear utility glasses for 4 bucks.

I understand tactical, but I don't need it. All my stuff is service, target or sporting. I have an AR, but I weighted it to about 14 lbs for target shooting and I only have 3 mags. 2 ten shot and 1 single shot. No need for anything else cause I only take it to the range.

I don't consider my XD9 tactical. It's a 4 in service model with no mods and I only have 2 10 round mags. That's all I need for the range.

I have a few other examples, but you get the gist. I have a few other rifles, either target or milsurp and a few Revo's, all standard. I'm almost done with autos and shooting Revos exclusively.

By the way, I'm only 39, but I've had this attitude for about 10 years. Maybe I'm just old at heart. Maybe I just can't afford tactical.