10mm: Which one(s) do you have?

[hartzpad]

I've had 4 different 10mm's but only have 2 at the moment (Glock 29 and Tanfoglio 10mm MATCH).

EAA full-size Witness in wonderfinish

Para-Ordnance P-16 converted to 10mm

Tanfoglio 10mm MATCH

Glock 29

 

[Myself]

All of the above, (should have been a pole choice). Heavy on "other".

 

[panzermk2]

here is one of my 10 rings. one of them is not a 10 try to figure out which one

 

[Big Gay Al]

Show off.

 

[panzermk2]

I figured by now you would have been sick of seeing that pic on 10mmtalk

 

[jeff-10]

1076

 

[Big Gay Al]

I figured by now you would have been sick of seeing that pic on 10mmtalk.

Actually, I never get tired of seeing guns, pictures of guns, or guns in pictures. That's why I have books on them. I only look at the pictures.

Say, I recently found out that a book my sister gave me, is worth somewhere around $150.00-$200.00 or so. Something about it being the only book ever published about the history of Merwin, Hulbert & Co. Firearms. Wish I had one of their pistols!

 

[Arc-Lite]

10's

...I am older then Israel, and had NO idea, there were this many 10mm's !!! Would one of you knowledgable gents, give me some idea as to the mag capacities of these beauties. my thanks in advance. regards Arc

 

[the pistolero]

Would one of you knowledgable gents, give me some idea as to the mag capacities of these beauties.

Depends, of course, on which one you get. My Kimber Stainless Target II holds 8 in the mag and one in the chamber; I think that's the lowest mag capacity for all the 10mm pistols out there, but it is a single-stack 1911. I wouldn't feel undergunned with it ,though I must admit the Glock 20 with its 15-round mag does sound mighty appealing. I just might spring for one of those one day...
Interesting little tidbit here: I was doing a search on the Web yesterday on the 10mm, and I came upon a thread on a discussion board that said Glock was soon going to stop making the Glock 20 due to low sales/lack of interest...and this thread was five years old. Take that for what you think it's worth, but I found it pretty encouraging, considering that the G20 is still around.

 

[Myself]

Would one of you knowledgable gents, give me some idea as to the mag capacities of these beauties

As long as I don't get my toes in the fire if I miss by a round.

2 rounds = American and Bond make 10mm derringers.
6 rounds = All of the smith 610 revolvers and the ruger buckeye 10mm.
7 rounds = The officer size 1911 10mm which are a very rare (Dan Wesson) or custom guns bases on an officer frame.
8 rounds = All the 1911 variants such as Colt (a dozen or so), Kimber, IMI/AMT, Wilson, Baer, Brown, single stack STI, Reeder, Auto ordinance, Parker/Wyoming Arms, etc. Plus all 6 of the smith 10mm autos. The Colt Double Eagle also took 1911 mags although it is a double action design.
10 rounds = The Witness compact line and the Bren Ten series (they may be 11 not sure) and the Glock 29
14 Rounds = Star Megastar
15 Rounds = The Glock 20 and full size Witness guns.
16 Rounds = The para Ordinance P16-40 conversions.
17 + Many of the STI and SV 10mm guns came with high caps and with mags extending out the mag well had a capacity of 20+.

There are a few carbines also just to confuse things.

I think that is it but I may have missed a few doing this off the top of my head.

 

[Arc-Lite]

pistolero...myself...my thanks !! I am considering the new (3gen) G20, with another hand full of cash for personal "upgrades" ...I like the 1911 design, but I question a factory designed 45ACP ramped up to 10mm, no offense to all the custom builds. I see KKM is making a G21(45ACP) barrel, for the 10mm as well..but again question a designed 45ACP going into the 10mm. The G20 was designed as a 10mm..and for some reason, I find comfort in that thought....gents,again my thanks.

 

[Chuck Perry]

Springfield Armory Loaded 1911, converted from 40SW to 10mm. Got a 357SIG bbl being fitted to this one also

 

[MTMilitiaman]

Since we get to show them off too:

 

[paddling_man]

Full Size Steel Witness!





With a little bit o'Busse...

 

[al g blenny]

Sorry for the ignorant question but what is so special about 10mm? Is it a lot more powerfull than 9mm? How would you rate them when compared to .45?

 

[paul45]

I voted Colt 10mm.....just my personal choice. Here are my three...
Blue Delta...

SS Delta...

and last a Match 10, from the custom shop...

I like alot of the other manufacturers also, but am a Colt fan......

 

[Myself]

Sorry for the ignorant question but what is so special about 10mm? Is it a lot more powerfull than 9mm? How would you rate them when compared to .45?

You will probably get a lot of answers to this questions. The best I can do on a short version is that the 10mm is the balistic equavialent of the 357 magnum. You can get a lot of energy out of a bullet with a .40 dia potentialy pushed at a velocity much higher than you can push a .40 S&W.

 

[Bob R]

This is the only one I have now. I can't fine a decent priced Model 610, so I am thinking of having Dave Clements convert a Ruger GP100 to 10mm for me.

The one above is a hard chrome over stainless that has been worked over by Ted Yost.

bob

 

[paddling_man]

Al - "Is it a lot more powerfull than 9mm?" Yes.

"How would you rate them when compared to .45?"
Compare for yourself. Muzzle Energy paired with velocity. A tough combination to beat in an auto.

 

[MTMilitiaman]

Sorry for the ignorant question but what is so special about 10mm? Is it a lot more powerfull than 9mm? How would you rate them when compared to .45?

That is a very good question, actually.

The short an answer, as has already been described, is that the 10mm is special because it gives you the ballistic equivalent of a .357 Magnum in an auto pistol. My Glock 20 holds 15+1 rounds. Each one of them is could be a 135 gr JHP @ 1600 fps all the way up to a 200 gr JHP @ 1250 fps or a 230 gr WFNGC @ 1120 fps. As it just so happens, mine is loaded with Double Tap's excellent 180 gr Gold Dot load, with an advertised velocity of 1300 fps. This gives me a total capacity of 16 rounds, which happens to be about 2.5x the firepower of your typical .357 Magnum revolver. That is a lot of firepower for a pistol.

The 10mm Auto, like the .357 Magnum, also happens to be extremely versitile. You can get FBI-Lite level loads that match the ballistics of the .40 S&W, but usually with less recoil than a similar load in a smaller .40 S&W handgun. Or you can drive those bullets 150 to 200 fps or more faster than anything you can safely duplicate from a .40 S&W with similar barrel lengths. This is esp true when bullets of 200 gr or heavier. Most .40 loads stop at 180 gr cause it doesn't have the capacity to push anything too much heavier at a useful velocity. With the 10mm, you can go all the way up to 230 gr, which makes the 10mm Auto a useful short range hunting pistol for medium game up to the size of mule deer or black bear. If you do a lot of hiking, you can strap on a Glock 29 and have 10+1 capacity of 200 gr Hornady XTPs, which even out of the shorter barrel will usually manage 1200 fps or more, in a compact, lightweight package. This load would be an excellent choice for defense against people as well as cougars or a rogue black bear. When you get back into town, you can load a 165 gr Gold Dot out the barrel at about 1400 fps and have an excellent load for two-legged critters.

The 10mm Auto is capable of being loaded to meet or exceed everything the .45 ACP can do save for inital diameter and, in most defensive loadings, initial weight. It carries more energy, more momentum, and more sectional density, which means it is more likely to expand and holds more potential for penetration, if that is what you are after. I look at the 10mm Auto as the illegitimate love child of the .45 ACP and the .357 Magnum, because it combines .357 Magnum energies with bullets of larger diameter and heavier initial mass. It really is a great cartridge that deserves far more popularity than it has, and I find that most people who experience it first hand, really fall in love with it. The 10mm Auto has managed to form a pretty devote fan base. In fact, between you and me, sometimes it is borderlined cultish.

 

[Lennyjoe]

Had a 1006 and sold it to purchase a G20. The 1006 was just a bit too heavy on the hip while hunting.

Here's the G20.

My Christmas present this year to me is a G29.

On the list is a Kimber 10MM but that's going to take a bit of saving up.

 

[Snagglepuss]

Favorite - Dan Wesson 10mm CBOB




Also have- Dan Wesson 10mm Pointman/Patriot Experimental (Goverment)




Want - Very early production - Dan Wesson Razorback

 

[al g blenny]

Wow! Thanks everyone. I had no idea it was so powerfull. One more question. I have a Kimber custom. Is there any way to convert that to a 10mm? If so do you have a link to a place to buy the parts? Thanks.

 

[saspic]

originally posted by Myself
As long as I don't get my toes in the fire if I miss by a round.

2 rounds = American and Bond make 10mm derringers.
6 rounds = All of the smith 610 revolvers and the ruger buckeye 10mm.
7 rounds = The officer size 1911 10mm which are a very rare (Dan Wesson) or custom guns bases on an officer frame.
8 rounds = All the 1911 variants such as Colt (a dozen or so), Kimber, IMI/AMT, Wilson, Baer, Brown, single stack STI, Reeder, Auto ordinance, Parker/Wyoming Arms, etc. Plus all 6 of the smith 10mm autos. The Colt Double Eagle also took 1911 mags although it is a double action design.
10 rounds = The Witness compact line and the Bren Ten series (they may be 11 not sure) and the Glock 29
14 Rounds = Star Megastar
15 Rounds = The Glock 20 and full size Witness guns.
16 Rounds = The para Ordinance P16-40 conversions.
17 + Many of the STI and SV 10mm guns came with high caps and with mags extending out the mag well had a capacity of 20+.

Good chart, here's a couple of corrections: The Smith & Wesson 10mm's hold 9 rounds, not 8.
The Witness Compact and Bren Ten did hold 11, as you suspected. The Peregrine Falcon Voit was going to bring out was a little smaller than the Bren Ten and would have held 10.
For the record, all my 1911 10mm magazines are 9 rounders from Tripp Research. http://trippresearch.com/products/products.htm

 

[Kitt]

I already had the Para Ordnance P-16 Limited but it was "only" a .40 Short & Weak...for about $100 it was transformed into a 10mm.