2.67" inch group at 1000 yds = amazing

[Nortonics]

Read a remark on a recent post about a new owner of a Savage Model 12 Long Range Precision Varminter where someone had a real hard time believing the gun was capable of 3/4" groups at 100 yds. I made mention that's a pretty simple feat these days, and that 1000 yard competition commonly shows scoring under 12".

Was just reading through the 'gun of the week' archives over at 6mmbr.com and just thought I'd post this UK record, just so folks could see how incredible BR guns and shooters are getting these days.

Vince B's 7mm WSM Record-Breaker - The Most Accurate 1000-yard Gun in the UK



See those targets - yeah those little white dots way out there!



Ten football fields away - Incredible!

Read the whole story about this gun and shooter in the above link, and if ya want more check out all the awesome 'gun of the week" winners here:

6mmbr Gun of the Week Collection

 

[GTSteve03]

And yet the Remington guys always seem to rag on the Savages. Jealousy, perhaps?

I suppose they can console themselves that their rifles look... erm... prettier? That seems to be the biggest advantage?

 

[JWarren]

Correct me if I am wrong....

1000 yards us roughly 2 miles (I think). If I am not mistaken, there are 503 yards in a mile, and therefore 1,006 yards in 2 miles. (I'm doing this from my weak memory.)

Soon, I was planning to do a little range testing with my 308 and was getting ready to set up. I believe I will set up 100 yard, 300 yard, 500 yard, 800 yard and 1000 yard targets just for fun. You really appreciate those 1000 yard shots when you start trying to figure out WHERE you can set up for such a shot. Not much choice around here. I think I found one place I can on my family's land, but it will not be ideal.

It is my understanding that shooting over water alters the ballistics of the round, and the only 1,000 yard location I can find here will involve shooting over water-- a lot of it.

John

 

[Ian]

One mile is 5280 feet, which is 1760 yards. 1000 yards is a 0.57 miles.

 

[hoghunting]

Correct me if I am wrong....

1000 yards us roughly 2 miles (I think). If I am not mistaken, there are 503 yards in a mile, and therefore 1,006 yards in 2 miles. (I'm doing this from my weak memory.)

You must not have been on the track team in high school or college. 440 yds is the distance of 1/4 mile. 1760 yds is one mile.

 

[JWarren]

I can assure you I was not on the track team-- and I think I just showed it.

I'm going to pass the blame on this one LOL. I was driving to work a few days ago, and called my sister in her office and told her to look up how many yards were in a mile. That was the answer I got. As you can see, she WASN'T on the track team either.


Thanks for the correction. That makes this a tad easier.


John

 

[shermacman]

Look at that target, yeah he grouped them in a 2 and 3/4 inch bunch but look at the bulls eye! He missed it totally!

 

[redneck2]

And yet the Remington guys always seem to rag on the Savages. Jealousy, perhaps?

Uhhhh....what does any of this have to do with Savage??? Custom action, trigger, barrel, stock, and cartridge.

Other than that, it's exactly like a Savage..

Look at that target, yeah he grouped them in a 2 and 3/4 inch bunch but look at the bulls eye! He missed it totally!

But he missed it by the same amount each time......Kinda like a guy that drives a golf ball 350 yards but ends up 2 fairways over....

When I shoot, I always thought the idea was to hit what you're aiming at, but maybe that's just me

 

[BruceB]

At the risk of offending those who KNOW about rifle shooting, it seems that the concept of "grouping" has escaped some of those on this Board.

If one can shoot a GROUP of some consistency, then that GROUP can be moved anywhere one wishes by sight adjustment.

Benchrest competitors, for instance, AVOID shooting the aiming mark because hitting the black hollow square can distort its shape. Such distortion might lead to some slight aiming error....which could be catastrophic to the GROUP, which they try to make as small as possible.

Sheesh.

 

[GTSteve03]

Uhhhh....what does any of this have to do with Savage??? Custom action, trigger, barrel, stock, and cartridge.

Other than that, it's exactly like a Savage..

You know, this is what I get for not reading the article. I assumed that the rifle was built off a Savage.

Excuse me while I attempt to extract my foot from my mouth...

 

[Fly320s]

Ten football fields away - Incredible!

Actually, it's just over 8 football fields.

A US football field is 120 yards long.

Still, amazing shooting. Are the targets downhill from the bench?

 

[Reyn]

I was waiting for someone to say it takes 10 shots to check true accuracy.

 

[SolaScriptura139]

That is one beautiful rifle. Incredibly impressive results and accuracy too.

 

[SoCalShooter]

Grouping from the bench will tell you what a rifle can do, not what it does when you have a moving target at that same range. Very nice rifle either way, its funny if I were shooting at a 1000 yard target here I would use a .50bmg...no real need to worry about grouping.

 

[Reginhild]

That's right up there with Arne Brennan's 1.198" group at 660 yards with the 6.5mm Grendel.

 

[CajunBass]

Look at that target, yeah he grouped them in a 2 and 3/4 inch bunch but look at the bulls eye! He missed it totally!

At the risk of offending those who KNOW about rifle shooting, it seems that the concept of "grouping" has escaped some of those on this Board.

At the risk of offending some on this board, apparently the concept of "tongue in cheek" has escaped some others.

 

[10-Ring]

I suddenly feel inadequate shooting at just 100 yards I'll just sit here in the corner in awe

 

[Nortonics]

Let's see -

2.67" divided by 10 gives a 100 yard grouping of .267"

And the American equivalent of his 7mm bullet is .276"

In other words you'd see a 5 shot group at 100 yards of no bigger than a single 7mm bullet hole.

Nice.

 

[nico]

2.67" divided by 10 gives a 100 yard grouping of .267"

And the American equivalent of his 7mm bullet is .276"

In other words you'd see a 5 shot group at 100 yards of no bigger than a single 7mm bullet hole.

the crazy thing is, once you factor in wind, it'd be easier to shoot a .267" group at 100 yards than 2.67" group at 1000.

 

[LarryS.]

I'll see your 2.67" group @ 1000 yds. and raise you......

http://www.6mmbr.com/gunweek050.html:what:

 

[rockstar.esq]

"Let's see -2.67" divided by 10 gives a 100 yard grouping of .267"

And the American equivalent of his 7mm bullet is .276"

In other words you'd see a 5 shot group at 100 yards of no bigger than a single 7mm bullet hole.

Nice."

So I'm not sure that's precisely true. The 2.67" is likely the center to center distance from the furthest two shots in the group. That would consititute a .267"/2 = .1335" RADIUS from the center of the 100 yard group. SOOOO his 100yd group would likely measure a maximum of .04095" aggregate group diameter. Still WILDLY IMPRESSIVE SHOOTING.

In the event that the 2.67" is actually just aggregate group size the aforementioned calculation would come to 0.3957" Again, very, very good shooting.bv

 

[TimboKhan]

So I'm not sure that's precisely true. The 2.67" is likely the center to center distance from the furthest two shots in the group. That would consititute a .267"/2 = .1335" RADIUS from the center of the 100 yard group. SOOOO his 100yd group would likely measure a maximum of .04095" aggregate group diameter.

Sir, please step away from the sliderule. No one has to get hurt.....

 

[Phaetos]

The British are amazing with what they are doing with guns. Even though they don't believe in CCW. Oh well. I saw an episode of Futureweapons last night, and they were featuring an AS50 with a new round. Accurate to 2500 yards! 1.5 MILES away! Amazing. Plus all the cool new explosive stuff is coming out of Britain too.

 

[Pilgrim]

I'm going to pass the blame on this one LOL. I was driving to work a few days ago, and called my sister in her office and told her to look up how many yards were in a mile. That was the answer I got. As you can see, she WASN'T on the track team either.

She probably wasn't in the field artillery either.

 

[gm]

Shooting over water lowers the point of impact...by just a "hair" over an inch at great distance.



Thats some good shooting.