25-06 rem vs 243 win

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The 25-06 isn't better because it can use heavier bullets and has more energy.If we use that arguement we might as well all shoot a 300 Weatherby.

Because the OP wants to shoot deer and varmints the 243 is a better choice for him.It is plenty for Deer and even Elk with a Barnes TTSX and can be loaded more suitably for varmits than the 25-06.

I do agree however on choosing a rifle in a short action if going with the 243.
 
.243 is much more available, and less expensive, which is a huge issue for me, personally...

Ballistically, their trajectories are non-issues at typical hunting distances. However, past 300+ yards, the .243 is a little flatter while the .25-06 holds more power. For example, I can't remember for sure, but at 600 yards, the .243 carries about 500 ft/lbs and the .25-06 about 700 ft/lbs.

Really, I don't give an edge to either one based on ballistics... but would personally pick the .243 due to price/availability.
 
You don't say where you're at, but maximum range and size of the deer matter in this decision.

At moderate ranges (<300 yards) and on smaller deer (<300 lbs), you won't really see any difference in terminal performance between the two. But move out further or start targeting bigger deer (or both), and the advantages of the .25-06's heavier bullets and greater case capacity shine. Of course, you have a 7 mag too, so maybe that would be your choice when pursuing trophy deer.

I have a .25-06 and a 6mm Rem, which is slightly more powerful than the .243. The .25-06 is the one that goes into the wild with me every time.

As for ammo, the .243 seems to be a little more popular and a little less expensive most places, but every time I'm in a sporting goods store or wally world and look over the ammo selection, both rounds are present.
 
I'd much rather have both a 243 and 270 than a single rifle in 25-06.
Personally, I'm a huge fan of the .25-06, its a great cartridge for deer, antelope and sheep. Flat shooting and relativly light recoiling. If you are looking for a combination deer/varmint gun, though, I might actually agree with the above and lean towards the .243. The .25-06 will handle varmints with ligher bullets, but IMO its a bit too heavy a cartridge to be optimal in that use. Still, you can't really go wrong with either choice.
 
An 85 grain BT from a . 25-06 is a varmint bullet. If I was a varmint hunter I would just use the 100 gr BT for everything, deer or rats. Mulliescwould fall to the 100 gr from a .25-06, but the best and most accurate bulletin I have found is the 115 combined tech.

You can also shoot the 119 accubond or partition is needed. All being said the Remington 100 gr. factory offering is a tough accurate bullet that has done wonders for years, and cost as much or less as any .243 factory loading.
 
I second the .243 and .270

If you don't like your current .270, I would get another. The 25-06 is getting a little big for varmints, and for deer, the .270 shoots heavier bullets faster.
 
The 25-06 gets my vote. A much more potent deer cartridge than the 243. From 115gr Nosler Ballistic Tips or 120gr Sierra GameKings, which would be fine for elk, in my opinion.

This 25-06 goes with me every year, though I might carry another rifle on a particular day:
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I was once tossing about the idea of getting a .25-06 because of reccomendations from others. I already have a 7remmag, .243, .30-30 and a .30-06 so its not something I need, obviously, but the long-action and larger case capacity turned me on to .260 Remington, instead. I figured I could justify it as a dedicated pronghorn rifle, even though I have never hunted a speed goat or even put in for a tag. Really, I just wanted to have a heavy-barreled, stainless gun with light recoil and a good trajectory for bench shooting and funnin' out in the desert at long range. The .25-06 fits those criteria, but so does the .260 with ~10 grains less powder per round.
 
I agree. In researching a rifle caliber for my daughter (14, tall and slim), I finally settled on a 260 Remington. I didn;t buy the rifle, I just settled on the caliber. So....that's what it'll be when I decide it's time. The 25-06 is a tad too much for her while, in my opinion only, the 243 isn;t enough cartridge. The 260 Remington is a highly accurate cartridge with low recoil, and with the velocity and energy ability to carry with her on nearly any hunt for the rest of her life. A bigger, heavier bullet than the 25 can shoot, all with equal or less recoil.
 
They're both very flat shooting out to approx 300 yards. Velocity is about the same, too. But 25-06 has more energy. Both cartridges are entirely satisfactory for taking huge mountain muleys or plains game when the right bullets are placed corectly.

I like 'em both but 243 has always been a top favorite of mine.

TR
 
If you are asking which is better, the .243 or the .25-06 well the .25-06 is, around the same weight bullet, a 100 to 110gr. it is faster & has more energy, and being a slightly larger bullet it has more staying power down range................
Actually, the fatter .25 cal bullet in the same weight as a .243, has a lower BC and thus less "staying power" down range. It sheds velocity quicker. It may start out with a velocity advantage, but at long range, it doesn't keep it. Also in the same weight and bullet construction, the .243 has a higher SD meaning better penetration.

In reality the .25-06 has better potential for deer, but to realize it you have to load the heavier bullets. The .25-06 would have amazing potential if there were a large selection of heavy .25 cal bullets out there, but there aren't. The .243 has a pretty distinct advantage as far as being flexible. The .243 will kill any deer out there and I know people personally that hunt elk exclusively with a .243.
 
Sorry, but I can't tell you which is better between a .243 and .25-06. I can only tell you about the .25-06 as I've owned one for 35 years.

It is a remarkably flat shooting cartridge capable of killing game up to Elk. It's very versatile shooting bullets from 85 gr to 120 gr.

With the 85 to 90 gr bullets it is the hardest hitting varmint cartridge I've ever seen. Using heavier bullets it doubles as a great medium game cartridge.

In my opinion it has a distinct advantage over a .243 when you're talking about hunting.

However, I will probably still own a .243 in the near future even though I don't think it holds a candle to the .25-06. I do think the .243 is a nice replacement for the .22-250.
 
Experience has shown me that a 25-06 is a step UP from a .243... It's up to you if you need that step up or not.

DM
 
If you don't like the .270, sell it. I love the .25/06 idea but the 7 mag is a great deer rifle. It will do anything the .270 or the .25/06 will do. I would sell the .270 and buy an accurate .22/250 or .223 to fill out your arsenal. You will be good for any opportunity in North America. Nothing against the .243, I just bought another one, it just doesn't have a perfect niche for me. For varmints, I would always take the .22/250, for deer I would always take the 25/06. But you already have a deer gun, the 7mm. Get a nice accurate .22 centerfire, and enjoy.
 
I see alot of advantages to the 2506. Only advantage i can possilbly see to the 243 is recoil. A day of shooting a few hundred prarie dogs might be a bit more taxing with a 2506 but neither would be my choise for a long day in the varmit field. I dont think the average guy buying either intends it for a dedicated varmit gun. Not that it doesnt happen but its not that common. Most are bought for duel purpose guns. Most are deer rilfes that may see an occasional use on the varmit field. Ive shot deer with both and can say without a doubt although the 243 will get it done the 2506 gets it done much better.
 
From my limited experience, I'd say I prefer the .270 over either of the others, but the .25-06 edges out the .243 in my opinion.
 
The .25-06 would have amazing potential if there were a large selection of heavy .25 cal bullets out there, but there aren't. The .243 has a pretty distinct advantage as far as being flexible.

.25-06 appropriate bullets range from 75-to 122 grains, and the corresponding construction of those bullets are appropriate for everything from varmints to elk.

The only place .244" holds an advantage is the higher BC of the match type bullets. That said, the much lower velocity of a .244" 115 gr. Berger VLD from a .243 (2,900 FPS max) causes it to have a worse trajectory than a 115 gr. .257" VLD out of a .25-06 (3,200 FPS max). Energy retention of the .243 will be better, percentage-wise, but they don't meet on the graph until the 1,000 yard mark, and at that range, the .25-06 will have about 30" less bullet drop when zeroed at 200 yards. With these max 115 gr. VLD loads, the .25-06 also boasts an extra 30 yards of MPBR.

Yes, the .243 is more efficient and a little lighter recoiling in the same gun (often, though, the SA .243 rifle is a tad lighter). Performance-wise, though, it is simply outclassed by the larger .25-06.

The .243 will kill any deer out there and I know people personally that hunt elk exclusively with a .243.

For deer, yes, six of one, a half-dozen of the other. For elk, though, I won't go lighter than my .25-06. I have a 6mm rem, which edges out the .243, but I don't consider it an elk rifle.

I am building another 6mm rifle, but one that can really take advantage of the high BC .244" bullets. A 29" barreled 6mm-06 AI varmint rifle on a 700 action. This rifle should be fully capable of pushing those 115 gr. .545 BC Bergers to 3,400 FPS. But this is going to be a 13 pound varmint rifle, not a sporter.

The .25-06 has remained popular because of it's combination of light recoil, flat trajectory and excellent versatility. The .243 has similar attributes, but is simply a less powerful round, thus a little more limited on maximum range and game animal size.
 
Have yet to meet the individual that thought their 25-06 was too puney for deer, cannot say the same for the 243. Everyone who I have ever known to use a 117gr SGK swears it is the fastest killing deer thumper this side of a 338 magnum having been told this by so many well respected hunters I am inclined to believe it.
243s do the trick without a doubt, but nowhere near the authority of the quarterbore.
 
Based on the rifles that you already have and what you plan on using it for, varmints/deer, I'd get the 243, especially if you don't handload. Your 7 mag and 270 will already do anything that the 25/06 would do.
 
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