zxcvbob
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I've got a Ruger Blackhawk .30, and it really clears out some elbow room at the range
You need really good ear protection with that thing.The Automag III was also chambered in .30 Carbine, and there was another one... Kimball?
380 auto for my wife
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You need really good ear protection with that thing.The Automag III was also chambered in .30 Carbine, and there was another one... Kimball?
kBob
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Supposedly the Isreali police had a few S&W clone revolvers made up in .30 Carbine in the late 50's or so. As a 15 Y/o with an M-1 Carbine in the 60's I wanted one bad. I even speculated on the posibility of an Nframe like a model27 six inch being so chambered and using an eight shot cylinder and half moon clips. One of dad's buddies left him a "cowboy pistol" and as the only Single Action I knew of the guy having was a .30 Carbine Blackhawk I got all excited....turned out to be a .22.....
It was the Kimbal that looked like a High standard .22 semi auto on steroids that was the semi auto from fifty years ago. I have looked at two but never fired one. Might still be one in the Ocala Armory near Ocala Florida if you just have to have one. I think the Auto Mag he had did sell.
I do not think of a .30 carbine Black hawk or a .22 magnum revolver report as ice pick to the head.....more of a root canal pain for me......
ACKKKK! SEVERE DRIFT IN EFFECT!!!!!
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It was the Kimbal that looked like a High standard .22 semi auto on steroids that was the semi auto from fifty years ago. I have looked at two but never fired one. Might still be one in the Ocala Armory near Ocala Florida if you just have to have one. I think the Auto Mag he had did sell.
I do not think of a .30 carbine Black hawk or a .22 magnum revolver report as ice pick to the head.....more of a root canal pain for me......
ACKKKK! SEVERE DRIFT IN EFFECT!!!!!
-kBob
Peter M. Eick
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Agreed, but the 30 carbine Blackhawk is a lot of fun to shoot. I regret selling mine.
Back to the 380 for the wife.
Mine does not like my 84 because the recoil is sharp, but she does like my Colt Gov 380 which is a 1911 clone in a small format with a locked breech.
Back to the 380 for the wife.
Mine does not like my 84 because the recoil is sharp, but she does like my Colt Gov 380 which is a 1911 clone in a small format with a locked breech.
Shadow 7D
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Go to the top of the page and read the "so you want to buy a gun for your wife/GF"...
SwissArmyDad
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My wife shot a 642 and a SP101 back to back two days ago.
The SP101 was a "OH, we're already done with 40rds" experience.
The 642 was a "do I have to pull the trigger on that 5th little bastard" experience.
9 ounces, cushy grips and a sweet single action trigger seemingly made all the difference.
I already knew that about her, but we don't own revolvers for some stupid reason (me selling them probably has something to do with that..haha) so I had forgotten what a shootist she becomes, and how giddy she feels plucking those spend shells out out of the cylinder when she's done with set of cartridges.
So, my point? Definitely let her decide on what is comfortable and dare-say-it FUN for her to shoot. If it's fun, you're gonna have to watch your a$$, cuz she's going to know to shoot the crap out of that thing.
The SP101 was a "OH, we're already done with 40rds" experience.
The 642 was a "do I have to pull the trigger on that 5th little bastard" experience.
9 ounces, cushy grips and a sweet single action trigger seemingly made all the difference.
I already knew that about her, but we don't own revolvers for some stupid reason (me selling them probably has something to do with that..haha) so I had forgotten what a shootist she becomes, and how giddy she feels plucking those spend shells out out of the cylinder when she's done with set of cartridges.
So, my point? Definitely let her decide on what is comfortable and dare-say-it FUN for her to shoot. If it's fun, you're gonna have to watch your a$$, cuz she's going to know to shoot the crap out of that thing.
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Also, just to add. My wife had a lot of fun with my Bersa Thunder .380...
Cocked & Locked
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How about a SIG P230 or P232 .380 for wifey?
Most small 380s have more recoil than people expect. I have an LCP and I don't enjoy shooting it. I have heard great things about the Sig P238, but I have never shot one. That said, I love shooting my XD 45 Compact, but I usually carry an XD 9 subcompact. As a woman, I recommend letting her shoot as many different types of pistols and revolvers as she can. If you have some friends that have different types of firearms, let her try them out and see if she can find one that she enjoys shooting and will practice with.
Alot of people make the mistake of trying to have a woman rack the slide on an auto using just the hand on the slide. Most men I know rack the slide that way, but many women have trouble with it because of a lack of grip or upper body strength. Have her try to push with her strong hand on the grip (finger off the trigger of course) while pulling the slide back towards her body with the other. That will allow her to use both arms and that might help her rack the slides. I've used this method with several other women I've taught that had issues racking the slides and it has worked well.
Good luck and I hope she finds something that she likes!
Alot of people make the mistake of trying to have a woman rack the slide on an auto using just the hand on the slide. Most men I know rack the slide that way, but many women have trouble with it because of a lack of grip or upper body strength. Have her try to push with her strong hand on the grip (finger off the trigger of course) while pulling the slide back towards her body with the other. That will allow her to use both arms and that might help her rack the slides. I've used this method with several other women I've taught that had issues racking the slides and it has worked well.
Good luck and I hope she finds something that she likes!
kBob
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Peter,
The little single action auto "colts" that look like 1911s areactually pretty much Star S model clones which I suggested folks look at some time back and up stream.
I had one student that could not do a slide rack in any of the prefeered ways because of lack of upper body strength and grip strength. Some folkf got upset when I told her to grip the gun normally in the firing hand, place her none firing hand over the gun so that the thumb faces the rear of the slide and over the slide serrations rather than the push pull thing one pushes with both hands.
Some were concerned yhat the muzzle may tilt up toward her non firing fore arm during this and it may be a concern to consider and perhaps result in not even trying this. Others pointed out that her non firing hand covered the ejection port and it there was a round already in the chamber and she were trying to work the action this round might not be able to fall away from the ejection port. Some even worried about the possibility of the gun snapping shut on some skin of her palm or fingers. It was a lively discussion at our class critic. Mean while the student had worked the slide for her class atleast.
Again with exposed hammer single action guns thumb cocking the hammer before one tried to rack the slide reduces the amount of force needed to get the slide back.
When in the service I was taught to rack the slide of a 1911 A1 when no second hand was available to grab the slide by placing the lower portion of the slide on the edge of a hard object or even the edge of the holster and shove the gun forward to rack the slide. Of course to use that techneque the pistol can not have a full length recoil spring guide....another reason I disliked the change to Beretta by the armed forces.
I am not suggesting you try any of these odd ball techneques but only explaining what I have seen work. There are certainly safety questions to be raised by all of them. If noting else these give you something to think about and discard if you think without you spinning your wheels coming up with the same things.
Good luck
Be safe
-kBob
The little single action auto "colts" that look like 1911s areactually pretty much Star S model clones which I suggested folks look at some time back and up stream.
I had one student that could not do a slide rack in any of the prefeered ways because of lack of upper body strength and grip strength. Some folkf got upset when I told her to grip the gun normally in the firing hand, place her none firing hand over the gun so that the thumb faces the rear of the slide and over the slide serrations rather than the push pull thing one pushes with both hands.
Some were concerned yhat the muzzle may tilt up toward her non firing fore arm during this and it may be a concern to consider and perhaps result in not even trying this. Others pointed out that her non firing hand covered the ejection port and it there was a round already in the chamber and she were trying to work the action this round might not be able to fall away from the ejection port. Some even worried about the possibility of the gun snapping shut on some skin of her palm or fingers. It was a lively discussion at our class critic. Mean while the student had worked the slide for her class atleast.
Again with exposed hammer single action guns thumb cocking the hammer before one tried to rack the slide reduces the amount of force needed to get the slide back.
When in the service I was taught to rack the slide of a 1911 A1 when no second hand was available to grab the slide by placing the lower portion of the slide on the edge of a hard object or even the edge of the holster and shove the gun forward to rack the slide. Of course to use that techneque the pistol can not have a full length recoil spring guide....another reason I disliked the change to Beretta by the armed forces.
I am not suggesting you try any of these odd ball techneques but only explaining what I have seen work. There are certainly safety questions to be raised by all of them. If noting else these give you something to think about and discard if you think without you spinning your wheels coming up with the same things.
Good luck
Be safe
-kBob
I bought my Wife a .380 Hi-point. It is the same frame and slide as the c9 and has very little recoil.
At the time She had Carpul Tunnel left over from Pregnancy but wanted to go shooting with us.
I Stopped at a range that had one for rent and I shot it. We didn't have to fiddle with it much. We messed with the feed lips a little with a leatherman and it eats anything now.
It's the Ugliest gun out of the bunch we shoot but she makes all of us guys look like goofs with it and it doesn't hurt her hands.
At the time She had Carpul Tunnel left over from Pregnancy but wanted to go shooting with us.
I Stopped at a range that had one for rent and I shot it. We didn't have to fiddle with it much. We messed with the feed lips a little with a leatherman and it eats anything now.
It's the Ugliest gun out of the bunch we shoot but she makes all of us guys look like goofs with it and it doesn't hurt her hands.
Matt Dillon
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Have you considered the CZ83?
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