Hello forum. I've always come to THR for the considerable knowledge forum member have on various topics.
Keep up the good posts guys.
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I'm in training as an ER Technician & have recently seen an unfortunate but interesting case.
A gun shot victim was brought into the ER with a single gun shot wound to the upper chest.
Specifically through the sternum. (wound almost exactly between the pectoral muscles)
The victim also had an exit wound almost straight out the the back. It looked as if the bullet changed direction after impact then going slightly upward & exiting. Basically straight through.
I've always been interested in reading about ballistics. And to read it & then see it. Is very different. And this fit the definition of a "one shot stop".
The bullet was a 9mm fmj. The victim was by all means in prime health. And roughly (being vague) 180lbs.
The report we have puts the shooter out to 10 or 15 feet away that the shot was fired at the victim.
Accounts point to an almost immediate drop after impact.
This sounds like a street brawl, bar fight that got out of hand. And the victim was in the middle of it etc.
At first I was thankful it wasn't a jhp. But that quickly changed.
Having two wounds to get at, while performing chest compressions. Just didn't work. The amound of fluid loss was so immediate, that even before arrival at the ER the EMTs (whom both have seen gsw before) called the chances of survival slim.
We live in a smaller community & lack a few things larger citys have.
It was shocking after reading the endless debating on 9mm vs "whatever caliber" to see a real world result on a round that most have discounted as being ineffective of one shot stops etc.
I have no idea if the bullet after leaving the body had allot of energy left & went much further or dropped after exit.
But maybe its something our Police are looking into for evidence.
With the accounts I have read about our troops shooting enemys 5 or more times with 9mm fmj's. I now wonder about accounts where 9mm fmj worked well. Or any fmj against soft targets for that matter.
This info was posted as an observation. I hope it can help in whatever way something like this can. If not to just talk & learn from it.
Keep up the good posts guys.
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I'm in training as an ER Technician & have recently seen an unfortunate but interesting case.
A gun shot victim was brought into the ER with a single gun shot wound to the upper chest.
Specifically through the sternum. (wound almost exactly between the pectoral muscles)
The victim also had an exit wound almost straight out the the back. It looked as if the bullet changed direction after impact then going slightly upward & exiting. Basically straight through.
I've always been interested in reading about ballistics. And to read it & then see it. Is very different. And this fit the definition of a "one shot stop".
The bullet was a 9mm fmj. The victim was by all means in prime health. And roughly (being vague) 180lbs.
The report we have puts the shooter out to 10 or 15 feet away that the shot was fired at the victim.
Accounts point to an almost immediate drop after impact.
This sounds like a street brawl, bar fight that got out of hand. And the victim was in the middle of it etc.
At first I was thankful it wasn't a jhp. But that quickly changed.
Having two wounds to get at, while performing chest compressions. Just didn't work. The amound of fluid loss was so immediate, that even before arrival at the ER the EMTs (whom both have seen gsw before) called the chances of survival slim.
We live in a smaller community & lack a few things larger citys have.
It was shocking after reading the endless debating on 9mm vs "whatever caliber" to see a real world result on a round that most have discounted as being ineffective of one shot stops etc.
I have no idea if the bullet after leaving the body had allot of energy left & went much further or dropped after exit.
But maybe its something our Police are looking into for evidence.
With the accounts I have read about our troops shooting enemys 5 or more times with 9mm fmj's. I now wonder about accounts where 9mm fmj worked well. Or any fmj against soft targets for that matter.
This info was posted as an observation. I hope it can help in whatever way something like this can. If not to just talk & learn from it.