Accidental discharge?

Accidental discharge?

  • yes, I have.

    Votes: 213 36.1%
  • No, I have not.

    Votes: 377 63.9%

  • Total voters
    590
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I have a great ballistic safety product

My Gun Safe...nothing I own will put a round through that

And I am not too worried about a richochet.....

Because I am quite capable of verifying that my weapon is unloaded

These reports of ND's where the shooter was "certain the weapon was unloaded" give me the shivers
 
No A.d.

I have not had one (yet?) but two of my friends have.
They violated 2 rules:
1) Assume the gun is loaded
2) Check to make sure the gun is empty
 
Same as kungfuhippie, only with a Remington 511-x .22. I was sitting and was in the process of standing up or vise versa, but had already chambered the next round. Thankfully it was pointed downrange and it hit the backstop. Even with a .22, it scared me. I realized that I need to stay focused on safety.
 
In my opinion, no such thing as an accidental discharge. Why was your finger on the trigger? If it was there - then your intent was to shoot the weapon, thefore, no accident.
 
+1 elkhuntingfool


BTW... We're calling this an "Accidental Discharge" when in fact (and by legal definition) it IS a NEGLIGENT Discharge because that’s what it is…And what we could be charged with.



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That's what "cause and effect" is..."You screwed up and now you get to pay for it". Same thing...I, personally don't believe in accidents. Only "cause and effect" and "acts of GOD"
 
I am impressed by the fact that with so many ADs noted I didn't see any report of injuries. Like someone said, it takes 2 or more violations to cause injury

Thats because the people that did harm someone would rather not share their story.

I'm not understanding off of this "yet" logic though.:confused:

"yet" just sounds like you are planning on having one...Who plans on it?
 
I don't think it's inevitable. I hope to God that those reading this will up their awareness and avoid breaking the 4 rules. That they never have a ND. The yet remark is just pointing out that we are all human and capable of error and negligence. Hopefully we can just be negligent in other less hazardous aspects of our lives instead...Like forgetting to raise the mower level and giving the lawn a buzz cut, or overfeeding your cat to the point it needs gastric bypass surgery.
 
If I ever have one I'll declare myself unfit for firearm ownership. I consider those who have had one unfit, especially those who think it's funny or some sort of right of passage.
 
Yep, when I was a kid, I jacked my .22 several times (a bolt action M512X) to clear it, but when I pulled the trigger, it went bang. Even then, I had sense enough to be muzzle aware and had it pointed at the ground when I pulled the trigger, but it surprised me because I was sure it was empty. After that, having learned my lesson, I check the chamber and look down inside for the orange follower of the magazine tube to make SURE there's nothing in it, then pull the trigger with the bolt handle raised about half way to lower the striker.

I also had a RG revolver fail to catch the sear when I cocked it and fired downrange. I got rid of that POS. It was an accident waiting to happen. That was when I was about 20 years old. I've not had one since, but it just drives home the point to be CAREFUL and follow all the NRA rules about muzzle awareness and such when doing anything with a gun, decocking, loading, cleaning, whatever. Always assume the chamber is charged. That part of gun handling was drilled into me early on, probably why my two incidences ended well.

No matter how safe you think you are, it can happen to you. Follow the safety rules, always, and even if it does happen, you'll probably be fine. But, no matter how well trained you are, you can slip. Remember, when you're handling a gun, do as you would if you are driving (or maybe not if you drive with your cell phone screwed in your ear). But, don't let your concentration slip for one moment. Always follow the safe gun handling rules to the letter and always be muzzle aware.


using the wrong holster and it grabbed the trigger on my Glock 22...nice hole in the ceiling above my dresser.

This is why I no longer just throw all my holsters together in one drawer anymore.

This is why I don't carry Glocks....or RGs. Glock's a fine gun (unlike RG), but I just don't like the trigger design at all. Too much chance of a kaboom even if you follow all the rules. Preach safety all you want, but safe gun design has its merits, too. A revolver, a DAO, or a DA will not go kaboom just from a flimsy holster, a Glock can. And, I sure as HECK wouldn't carry one condition one in a pocket, not even in a good pocket holster all by itself.

I ain't gonna sit here with a holier than thou attitude and point fingers and quote the safety rules. Even if you KNOW the rules, there's always Murphy's law. That's why I don't like Glocks for concealed carry. Revolvers and DA/DAO autos work for me. I shoot them quite well and I don't HAVE to trade a 4 lb trigger pull for safety. I can shoot a DA just fine, I practice a LOT with it. I've not had an AD/ND since I tossed that RG. :D At least I was getting ready to fire, didn't hit the target, though. LOL But, then, with that POS, I rarely hit the target anyway. Guess I shoulda known better than to think a 16 dollar (brand new) revolver, even in 1972 dollars, could be safe to shoot.

Thats because the people that did harm someone would rather not share their story.

I'm not understanding off of this "yet" logic though.

"yet" just sounds like you are planning on having one...Who plans on it?

In my two incidents, the first one was my general unloading routine before crossing the fence and coming in from squirrel hunting in the woods. I took caution to point the gun at the ground before pulling the trigger to check if it was indeed unloaded and to lower the striker. Well, I changed my unloading routine with that rifle after that. The second was a junky POS revolver. I tossed it. I don't buy junk anymore, despite what you may think of Taurus. And, I do avoid guns I don't regard as real safe to tote, even if they're popular and well made. There are some gun designs I just don't like for safety reasons, my opinion, my choice. I learned to shoot DA a long time ago and I'm pretty good at it. I don't need no hair triggers to hit what I'm shooting at.

I think the "yet logic" has to do with murphy's law. Don't think it can ever happen to you? Go ahead and delude yourself. I hope you're right. I know just being startled by those two incidents that really weren't THAT big a deal, made me more aware and more diligent. I mean, in one case I was being extra careful to unload before crossing the fence and the other was a junky gun. Diligence is the key to safety with firearms, I think. I've not had an AD/ND in 35 years, knock on wood and practicing safe gun handling.
 
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If I ever have one I'll declare myself unfit for firearm ownership. I consider those who have had one unfit, especially those who think it's funny or some sort of right of passage.

You talk a big game, but I bet if you ever launch a .22 into the ground 4 feet away, you're not gonna rush home and put all your firearms on gunbroker.
 
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If I ever have one I'll declare myself unfit for firearm ownership. I consider those who have had one unfit, especially those who think it's funny or some sort of right of passage.

You talk a big game, but I bet if you ever launch a .22 into the ground 4 feet away, you're not gonna rush home and put all your firearms on gunbroker.

Well, I learned from my mistakes, not a quitter. :D
 
Totally unacceptable and I've lived a big game. No excuse and our enemies are loving this thread more than you know.
This isn't baseball.
 
No it isn't baseball. It's real life...Don't be so paranoid. So the "enemy(?)" reads all this...Big deal...I haven't seen any of them walk on water lately...In fact. Just the opposit...

For crying out loud...Ease up people. Now if you are perfect we'll just have to nail you to a cross again...:D
 
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Totally unacceptable and I've lived a big game.

Why don't you post your credentials, or if you are shy, send them to one of our Moderators and have them back up your "game"?
 
Interesting sign-off line.......

Totally unacceptable and I've lived a big game. No excuse and our enemies are loving this thread more than you know.
This isn't baseball.
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No excuse and our enemies are loving this thread more than you know.

Yeah, by all means let's be shadowy and never admit that gun owners are humans and fallible just like everyone else. If we never talk about NDs the antis will forget they happen.

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I haven't had a negligent discharge and I hope I never do. I follow strict adherence to the four rules, I am confident that I won't have an ND, but on the other hand, s*** happens. So far, so good, 12 years of shooting and nowhere close to an ND.
 
Once while taking the safety off on a Carcano carbine and once while loading a magazine in a modified SKS. After a little research I learned that Carcanos have a reputation for dubious safeties. As for the SKS it turned out that the forward edge of the magazine hooked into a recess just behind a bar that releases the hammer. (I looked real hard for the problem with this rifle and was able to duplicate it). As I was just familurizing myself with these weapons I was being especially aware of what I was doing as well as careful. My finger was nowhere the inside of the trigger guard either time. Always keep the gun pointed in a safe direction and don't put your finger on the trigger until you are ready to shoot.
 
Wow, 34% of the folks here at THR have had an ND.:eek::scrutiny::uhoh: This number is just a little surprising to me, as most of us here are very experienced gunnies.
 
one from iraq senior officer unloading his browning at the loading point BANG.
operations room gets on the radio "that was close anyone get a shot rep"
yes about 1o metres behind me
ops room so it was an nd?
I don't know I'll go and ask:evil:
to general excuse me sir did you mean to shoot the loading bay?:evil:
:cuss: was the reply
I mean how many times do you get the chance to bait a general and get away with it:neener:.
 
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