"American Guns" TV show.....

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the helicopter was in there again, arghh!

and you really can't compare it to real gun shows on more sportsmanlike channels, because discovery has to grab the attention of the average gun owner, and the average person. Whereas the other networks, like the outdoor network, can focus their show to more gun knowledgeable people...

I read online about the bad divorce Rich went through, and I see where the kids on the show call Renee their mom... Anyone know if this is their biological mom or stepmom?
 
The current wife is not their mother.
They grew up with their real mother & stepfather, not with Rich.
Denis
 
I guess you all would be surprised to know that many of the Custom theme bikes built by OCC for supposed customers are sitting in their show room.
That the Crab Fleet and NWern loggers aren't subsidized and that the rest of the industry gets away with some of the reckless behavior shown on their shows.
All Pawn shops have a crew of experts at their beck and call to appraise some of the worlds most unique and rare collect ables.
Yes indeed the Discovery/History Channel has moved strongly toward the entertainment side of media partly I'm sure because that is what we demand.
It's just TV!
The shooting shows are easy for people knowledgeable to tear apart but they are all basically the same.
I watch them and laugh at the gaffes but I am also pleased that the entertainment industry is portraying guns in a light different than that of them being all bad.
Hunting shows reached their zenith a few yrs. ago IMO and now I see to much high fence, spoiled game that the elated hunter still poses with, and baiting (that I never agreed with but having a feeder run and see game charging in to the sound is a little disgusting to me).
 
The shooting shows are easy for people knowledgeable to tear apart but they are all basically the same.
I watch them and laugh at the gaffes but I am also pleased that the entertainment industry is portraying guns in a light different than that of them being all bad.
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X-Rap, the problem with that is, they are NOT portraying the gun world in a good light. With this show, they are portraying us as egotistical, more money than brains, inept, lying, thieving, jackasses! Misinformation, to me anyway, is worse than no information.
 
I find it strange that Rich has to run to the basement every week to show his 'smiths' how to do some simple job. Maybe he needs some new hired help. Also, I think the owner of the two Colts should have been present while the 'experts' were appraising his guns.
 
I think the owner of the two Colts should have been present while the 'experts' were appraising his guns.
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100% agree there marv. I mean really, who in there right mind would EVER leave a possible half million dollar set of firearms with ANYONE? And to not be present when your beloved collection is supposed to be appraised? Thats pretty much unbelievable to me. This show is just one ridiculous BS happening after another.
 
I didn't say they were portraying us in a good light, but the light they shine on us is hardly that of what the news media does and it becomes quite clear that it is all just show. My point is that even "serious" hunting shows leave a lot to be desired but they are a million miles from what PETA would put out there.
Rich and his shop as well as many of the reality shows put the viewer into the extreme side of the business because that captures the audience, if you tried to make a show with the day to day mundane life of the typical gun shop it wouldn't make it past the premier.
The average viewer could care less about micrometers and dial indicators and if they sent every guy that they portray as a perspective buyer down to Pro Bass or Gander Mtn. they wouldn't have much of a show would they?
Don't mistake what I say as approving of that behavior but it is what sells, take a look at any of the shows and the personalities of the characters is what makes the program popular, we all need villains and heroes and want to see a good throw down fight once in a while I guess.
 
The problem is that you guys think this is an actual portrayal of a gun shop, it is not! Look back at the gripe posts you have done and and rewrite them to suit your liking, my guess is it would take up the whole show or wouldn't hold the viewer past the first commercial. These are not instructional shows for experts they are entertainment.
A few yrs ago someone who didn't like the way wrestling was portrayed on TV got his own money together and tried to launch a program with real Collegiate style wrestling those of us who loved the "sport" enjoyed and watched it but we were few and far between apparently because it never lasted. The same would happen if the big network made a show strictly for gun enthusiasts. I am thankful for the support of Larry Potterfield and others on the outdoor networks for keeping some of the gun shows pretty real there.
 
hmm lets see..384 posts about a show almost no one here likes nor watches much of. I am in the same boat but have to admit that the producers seem to know what they are doing. people are talking about the show, so they must be watching some of it.
And while I agree with a lot of the comments above, a lot of seems like hating as in the green with envy kind.
Lighten up guy, its like CNN and Fox, its entertainment.
 
For not liking the show ya'll sure seem to know a heck of a lot about it. Almost seems like you're watching it or something.

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What do you mean don't miss? Their 1st annual shootout,at ten feet how many shots were they taking to hit some of those targets? even with a shotgun they were missing.
Oh ya ,I didn't watch it ,I'm guessing:rolleyes:
It's just entertainment
 
I watched it twice last night - my first and last time.
I agree whole-heartedly with what has been said. If that was my wife and daughter I would tell them to put on shirts. I mean come on. Have some respect for yourself.
I thought it was ridiculous that a preacher comes in and after 3 minutes decides to drop $10,000 on a handgun. Why get one built ? Why not just get a Colt or Uberti production gun and have it tuned ?
The idea of him running around in a helicopter complete with pilot is preposterous.
When he offered $10,000 for the BAR when the price was $20,000 and gave him 10 seconds to respond was obnoxious. That employee sure had a lot of leeway from the owner to be able to come down $10,000 without even asking him.
And also as was said before, my son and I looked at each other and said "Why isn't the owner of the Colts there at the appraisal ? and He's appraising it from a picture ?" It seems like if the gun was a 1960s Italian reproduction it would be obvious. Plus, the owner said the guns had been in his family forever. Well, can you remember the Walker earlier than the 1960s ?
Also, he has so much money that he can just risk $500,000 at the drop of a hat ?
I can't even begin to say what all is wrong with this show. I'll watch reruns of NCIS next week.
BUT, I think most of these "reality" shows that have popped up lately are fake. I've heard that Pawn Stars (which I enjoy) is set up. I guess it would have to be or we would be sitting there watching Rick buy power tools and fishing rods all day.
 
With regard to Pawn Stars, with his location being what it is (Vegas) I would have to imagine that he probably would get some interesting things coming in quite frequently. I am sure a lot of it is call in's from the show and stuff but I would be willing to believe a good bit about that show. NO I am not saying I believe every item thats come in there on the show is all walk in's and such as I am sure there are probably about 50% setups and such, but again, given his location, you have to think that there are some strange things and also valuable items that would come in there because people are going broke at the tables.
 
The thing that is not believable to me about it is how much of a loss these people settle for.There was a rare broach on last years show that an appraiser came in and told the gal that is was worth $30,000+,Rick offered her like $10,000,she haggled some and ended up selling it to him for aound $13,000.WHO is EVER going to except that kind of loss without doing everything they can to sell it elseware for closer to the appraised value.I've seen that sort of losses over and over with thousands of dollars. YA,RIGHT.
Same with the Colts,the guy didn't know how much exactly each one was worth and made a deal before finding the appraised value.
 
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The thing that is not believable to me about it is how much of a loss these people settle for.There was a rare broach on last years show that an appraiser came in and told the gal that is was worth $30,000+,Rick offered her like $10,000,she haggled some and ended up selling it to him for aound $13,000.WHO is EVER going to except that kind of loss without doing everything they can to sell it elseware for closer to the appraised value.I've seen that sort of losses over and over with thousands of dollars. YA,RIGHT.
Same with the Colts,the guy didn't know how much exactly each one was worth and made a deal before finding the appraised value.
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30,000-40% auction fees she did okay

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The thing about Pawn Stars is that I watch to get a little history on the odd items. They're kinda goofy, but don't come off like total d-bags. I know it's a buy and sell business, so you expect a lowball offer because you know he needs to make a buck on it and usually people who go in there are desperate to sell. And those guys are only there when they're scheduled for a particularly unusual item for the show. Don't expect to ever randomly walk in there and see Chumlee.
I've seen AG exactly twice, and that was enough. Rich just comes across as a complete d-bag all around. Pimping the wife and daughter, treating his smiths like crap, flying around in a helicopter, just the way he makes his offers. If that guy came to my house, acting the way he does, and wanted to buy any guns, I'd make him pay double retail if he wanted to take them home. I know it's all "for show", but if I'm going to watch a show about guns and stuff, at least make the main guy likeable.
 
AG is all about Rich's ego. It's unwatchable.

Pawn Stars prices: Think wholesale price vs retail price. Most things you buy in a store cost about twice what the store pays. When you sell to a pawn shop, you are selling at wholesale prices. When you buy, you pay retail. One of the other shows makes the point about being sure of a fixed price vs. the risk of going to auction.

I'm sure everyone has noticed that the bidding always starts with "how much do you want for it?" That seems like fishing for a low price based on ignorance. If I were asked that, I'd just say "how 'bout you go first."
 
I don't think auction fees are 40% ,15-25% maybe,either way ,I'd try to sell online or to actual antique dealers,shop around for awhile, at the very least I'd attempt to get a better price.


Did you all see that Rich's helecopter is always a different one? If he has one standing by all the time,I think it would be the same one.I bet they are the discovery channels .
 
It's obviously not his.
That'd be one ridiculous business expense that would not & could not justify itself. Buying, maintaining, hangaring, and paying a pilot to make short "buy" runs, especially when ground vehicles still have to go out & pick up large collections, would be absurd.

Even hiring one periodically for those runs would be cost prohibitive for a gunshop, in the real world.

Also, consider that each time they show the helicopter touch down at a buy site, the production crew has to get there first with the cameras & sound equipment to tape it.
You don't seriously think they hire TWO aircraft to get there in such a hurry, do you?

The crew gets around the same way you & I do- four wheels on the ground. Rich could do the same (undoubtedly does, for real business if & when he actually travels to look at anything), and if he has to wait for the crew to get there first, he's certainly not saving any time in using the aircraft.

Like other aspects of the show, pure fabrication.
Denis
 
So when he heliocopters out, and rings the doorbell - we get an inside shot of the most famous gopher hunter in the world opening the door to let him Rick.

How did that happen in space-time?

Then the gopher hunter has a very rare Mauser that was converted into a sporter. No has done that before?
 
Shooting Competition

Did anyone notice all the problems they were having with their firearms during the competition? The shooting was poor and the guns seemed to fail a lot for ten rounds or so. I am a glock fan boy and I was thinking those 1911's were probably custom and put together by the smiths at gunsmoke and to me they look like expensive paper weights. FWIW I watch the show and will continue to watch along with sons of guns. Both are terrible but still have guns, better than a cooking show.
 
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