Americans Killed in Iraq Mutilated and Desecrated

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This is a direct challange to the USA. We were attacted on 9/11 because they thought we were a bunch of pussies. They (Al-Kida) (sic) had seen how Former President Clinton handled things and expected nothing like President Bush's reaction. They now think thier stuff doesn't stink and they are Allah's gift to the world. We need to react with swift, furious vengence to these attrocities. That will show them who God's gift is. I know this sound like something out of Ezekial or Pulp Fiction.
 
We need to react with swift, furious vengence to these attrocities. That will show them who God's gift is. I know this sound like something out of Ezekial or Pulp Fiction.

USA Today
"We will respond," said Kimmitt, the U.S.-led coalition's top military spokesman. "It will be deliberate and precise and be overwhelming ... We will kill them or we will capture them."



Scott Helvenston was the guy who trained Demi Moore for G I Jane
 
idd, I will say it real slow for you this time.


We are still waiting for Concrete proof

Not a theory, not a plan, not a model but hard verifiable facts from a reputable source. Facts that state that the chemicals etc, that have a dual use potential where really withheld as part of the blueprint for genocide against the people of Iraq.


Sling the mud and run.

"Just trust my sources."
 
I think this link needs to be re-posted: http://www.homestead.com/prosites-prs/pictures033104.html

Pay close attention to the smiles and look of sheer joy on their faces as they desecrate the corpses.

I also think that this paragraph from the link csmkersh posted needs to be posted here. Read it very carefully:

In February 1982 the secular Syrian government of President Hafez al-Assad faced a mortal threat from Islamic extremists, who sought to topple the Assad regime. How did it respond? President Assad identified the rebellion as emanating from Syria's fourth-largest city — Hama — and he literally leveled it, pounding the fundamentalist neighborhoods with artillery for days. Once the guns fell silent, he plowed up the rubble and bulldozed it flat, into vast parking lots. Amnesty International estimated that 10,000 to 25,000 Syrians, mostly civilians, were killed in the merciless crackdown. Syria has not had a Muslim extremist problem since.
 
We are still waiting for Concrete proof

Which part of Chapter 13 from Terrorism and Tyranny: Trampling Freedom, Justice and Peace to Rid the World of Evil was difficult for you?

Oh wait, you haven't even bothered to read it, right? So nevermind.
 
Are you guys using what happened in Syria as a justification for extermination or a general strike of retribution? 40,000 people, gentlemen. That's a stadium full.

I live in NYC: I saw LIVE the towers go down and the people jumping and then the sounds of their bodies hitting and I don't think the way to honor their memory is to indiscriminately bomb a whole bunch of people and then really think that that will wrap things up in a nice clean package and that our country will be safe.

Surgical strikes gentlemen, that's the key IMHO. It bears repeating that we are fighting an ideology, an attitude and that cannot be defeated conventionally. We certainly can't enact the "Final Solution" as some have suggested. The thought process must be changed and that change can't be forced. In the meanwhile, yes, go and capture/kill those responsible but to punish folks cheering something in their ignorance?

I've seen sooo many picture through out the years of AMericans cheering when we blew up some people or soldiers gloating over their kill in picture of Vietnam or even Klan members, kids and all looking up and smiling at the hanging black man. Picture of German citizentry cheering on the slaughtter of Jews and Allies while reading books made of human flesh. We all know the creepy,sad history of the human race. We're not all that different from these people. Look at all the commentary about the all the cruel things folks wanna do back to those people, and we're the well-fed, well educated, mighty ones...Stay strong, stay the course, but stay on the Highroad.

-paco
 
Here is a link to the LA Times article on the attack and mutilation of the four Americans.

It also has link to the movie that shows the trucks and bodies and documents much of what happened to them after the news crew arrived. It is very graphic.

(Note: registration, which is FREE, is required on the LA Times site.)

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationw...aq_lat,1,4269296.story?coll=la-home-headlines


May their souls rest in peace.
 
Had another thought, before I forget, and I want to bid everyone a safe and prosperous weekend:

-Israel is an interesting case, and their plight definitely gets me thinking about how they handle things and how we might learn off their errors and their successes.

-They've, as a people, been fighting the Muslim hate for essentially a few thousand years. They are very militaristic: ALL people of age serve in the military. They are very well equipped and very well trained with some of the best intel. folk and fighter pilots, and light infantry in the world. They get attacked by acts of terrorism about every month. They are not afraid. They have no qualms about defending themselves. Some say they even have nuclear capacity. Despite ALL this, ya don't see these folks wanting to raze the palistinians to the ground nor any of the other Arab states who have actively aggressed against them in the last 50 years.

-They really, really try to maintain their humanity in the face of appalling hatred. They're learned their lesson and don't forget history. As much as I disagree with a lot of what they do, I've got oodles of respect for them. Let's pray for a quick end to all this crap. See ya!
 
After seeing the pictures that Csmkersh posted a link to, I find it very hard to be concerned about what happens to any native in the town where that happened.

What those 'people' did to those four civilians is dispicable. I don't even care if the four civilians were armed to the teeth etc., what was done to their bodies after they were killed is literally appalling and repugnant.

IDD, I don't care if we did bomb their water treatment facilities anymore.

-Jim
 
By the end of the 1990s, the infant-morality rate in Iraq was triple prewar levels. Denis Halliday, the UN administrator of the oil-for-food program, resigned in 1998 and denounced the sanctions as “nothing less than genocide.†Seventy members of Congress sent a letter to President Clinton in early 2000 condemning the Iraq sanctions as “infanticide masquerading as policy.†Columbia University Professor Richard Garfield, an epidemiologist and an expert on the effects of sanctions, estimated in 2003 that the sanctions had resulted in 343,900 to 529,000 infant and young-child fatalities.

The Neocon War on Peace and Freedom, Part 2
by James Bovard , May 2004 (Posted February 20, 2004) Link

Iraq should not have started the war to begin with and when they lost they should have listened to the US and UN and came clean with their leftover weapons and then the sanctions would have ended. Too hard to follow??


Which part of Chapter 13 from Terrorism and Tyranny: Trampling Freedom, Justice and Peace to Rid the World of Evil was difficult for you?

I think since you a posted alleging genocide that you should at least make a case. Yet you ask me to go by your buddies book and thus support your propaganda with my money. And this to disprove a point that you have yet to prove.

If you want anyone to take you seriously, at least quote the part of the book that lends such great credibility to your position. Heck even paraphrase it. Just give us something to prove the conection here.

Not a theory, not a plan, not a model but hard verifiable facts from a reputable source. Facts that show that the chemicals etc, that have a dual use potential where really withheld as part of the blueprint for genocide against the people of Iraq.


Steps have been taken to assure dual-use items are not diverted, Hall noted; on its projects, UNICEF follows the United Nations' three-tier monitoring system to ensure equipment and supplies are used as they are intended. "I trust that you will factor in the significant improvement in safeguards," he wrote to Albright, "and I urge you to weigh your decision against the disease and death that are the unavoidable result of not having safe drinking water and minimum levels of sanitation."

Link


I personally would not trust a humanitarian relief organization to be able to control what happens to supplies after they are delivered.
 
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Just clicked on the link from the LA Times.

Sure, let's go ahead and let these guys get away with it. Sure, let's seek a "diplomatic" solution.

Why not tell them that we "feel their pain", while we're at it?

GARBAGE!! HORSE MANURE!! :cuss: :cuss: :fire:

Don't you folks get it?

If someone kills a member of your family IN FRONT OF YOUR FACE, and/or is in a position to use deadly force against a member of your family, would you reason with them? Would you wait until the act was committed, then give good testimony to the police?

I would hope NOT!!

You don't reason with ANIMALS!!!

The time for talk is OVER!

Give the residents of Fallujah a couple of hours to evacuate.

Then bomb that city into the Stone Age!

Search and observe each and every resident. If you find ANYONE who was featured in that movie, ESPECIALLY those who were beating and dragging those bodies, BLOW THEIR HEADS OFF ON THE SPOT!!!

We do NOT need to play pattycake with these people.

I took an oath at one time to defend this Nation against all enemies, foreign and domestic. I am still bound by that oath, until the day I die.

If I could, I would personally hunt down these animals, and kill them! With pleasure!!!

Let's see how loud those animals would laugh with about 20 or 30 MOAB's dropped on their city as they watch, followed by about 30 B52 loads of 1000 lb. GP and incendiary bombs.

May the souls who lost their lives on that day rest in peace. My most fervent wish is that they died quickly.
 
<Poster's Comment--Tammy Bruce is a hero (heroine) to a lot of RKBA'ers. Talk about messin' with sterotypes. Anyhow she has an interesting historical perspective.>

http://www.frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=12852

Raze Fallujah

By Tammy Bruce
FrontPageMagazine.com | April 2, 2004

The latest reminder of the type of brutality that has ruled Iraq under the thumb of Saddam Hussein is in the action of his supporters, and their al-Qaeda mentors, in Fallujah. The murder and desecration of the bodies of American contractors reminds us that, while the Iraqis everywhere appreciate and support their liberation, there are a few rats who would prefer a return to the hell of Saddam’s depraved tyranny.

Fallujah has remained a hotbed of support for the brutal past regime, and for reasons that can only be explained by political correctness, we have not, up to this point, destroyed that base of murder, terrorism and bestial violence.

I contend it is now time to raze Fallujah.

I’ll remind you of what it took to quell the beasts of Germany and Japan in 1945: complete and total destruction. There was a reason why we bombed Dresden into oblivion. There was a reason why Berlin was not saved. There was a reason why two atomic bombs had to be dropped on Japan after Hiroshima: they still refused to surrender unconditionally.

Beasts of violence and destruction understand one thing: destruction. The media, of course, are comparing the Fallujah horror with Mogadishu. Almost with gleeful hysteria, the Left and their water boys, the mainstream media, seem desperate to cast this as Mogadishu. Why? To make George W. Bush look bad, that’s why. Because they revel in horror. Because they need Americans to be just like them. We must see a pit like Fallujah as Saddam's last bunker. The time for political correctness, worry about inflaming the situation, and restraint, are over. This is war. The people of Fallujah have decided to continue the war, so it should indeed be visited upon them with no mercy.

But consider this inane comment to the New York Times by Brig. Gen. Mark Kimmitt, chief spokesman for the American military command in Iraq, as he tried to explain why American forces have yet to enter the city:

"I think that there was a well-thought-out decision on the part of the Marines that let's not rush headlong into there, there may be ambushes set up a pre-emptive attack into the city could have taken a bad situation and made it even worse."

Really? With this kind of response, if Kimmitt was making decisions in April 1945, perhaps we would have simply put a fence around Berlin in an effort not to inflame Hitler.

Really, now, how can we make a situation where Americans have been murdered, set aflame and their bodies dragged through the streets and hung from a bridge worse?

Let’s be honest here. The violent only understand violence. Gentility emboldens them. Kindness disgusts them. And it should. Even the barbaric have no respect for being handled with care. Even they know they should be destroyed.

Kimmitt is now making noises that we will be teaching Fallujah a lesson. What that would be from the man who didn’t want to make the situation worse I can’t imagine. Kimmitt should be reminded of Dresden, Berlin, Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The brutal respond to and understand brutal might, especially when it is delivered by the decent.

This is a good time to remember, however, the difference between the Clinton and Bush administrations. Bill Clinton was afraid and retreated out of Somalia, which as we know, is what so empowered bin Laden and made him feel Americans would cower when confronted.

We now know bin Laden was behind the Somali warlord in Mogadishu, and when we turned and ran like frightened rabbits, did that help the world situation? Was our cowardice then supposed to help save American lives? While it was supposed to, it did quite the opposite on September 11, 2001. Three thousand Americans died, mostly civilians, because the American military, neutered by a terrified Clinton government, told the beasts that we have no character, no conviction. Clinton, soft and afraid, told bin Laden that Americans were soft and afraid.

For those of you conflicted, ask yourself, would World War II have ended more quickly if we threw up our hands and said, oh let Hitler have it! Yes, of course. And then what? The disease of Hitler would have metastasized to our homeland, replete, no doubt, with smiling German-speaking Frenchmen leading the charge. After all, so many Jews, so little time!

Were we not supposed to know the consequences of showing the Radical Islamist animals our underside? Did we not understand, despite examples through thousands of years, that murderous despots and terrorists are never appeased, they are made more bold by the retreat of the decent?

Of course, we knew, but we are apt to take our President’s lead when it comes to what is right. Even today, we have just learned that Clinton knew of the Hutus "final solution" in Rwanda, and the genocide of Tutsis that took place. For years Clinton denied knowing the scope of the slaughter.

Now, intelligence reports obtained using the U.S. Freedom of Information Act show Clinton knew of the genocide with his senior officials privately using the word within 16 days of the start of the killings, but chose not to do so publicly. Why? Because the president had already decided not to intervene because he remained terrified of "another Mogadishu."

With these reports, it appears the legacy of our first "black president" is that he chose to ignore the murderous slaughter of 800,000 black people.

We must decide what we’re made of because how we handle the barbarians in Iraq will send a message to beasts everywhere. Are we to be like George W. Bush or Bill Clinton? It's an easy question. Just ask Rwanda's surviving Tutsis who they prefer we be like.

I wonder, as Clinton sits around his office with his cigars, Hillary (or some other woman. It really doesn¹t matter, does it?) and John Kerry, does he ever wonder what it’s like to be hacked to death with a machete? Heck, why do I even ask this of a man whose only concern has been with women whose limbs can do him some good?

Today’s Democrats, who are Clinton’s Democrats, still have no stomach to do what’s right. Why not? Because they cannot see beyond themselves and wanting to save their own skin. The malignant narcissists who run the Democratic Party and American leftists who control our culture, feel there is nothing worth fighting for except their own power.

Facing down the depraved takes courage, perseverance and the resolve to put the bad guys where they belong. We did not leave the world to the Germans because we’re better than that. And we will not leave the world to the Islamists, because we are still better than that. No matter how much nihilistic American leftists and the media would prefer us to return to the days of fear and cowardice, we will still refuse to be like them.
 
Powderman. You are not dealing in reality. First you say give everyone a couple of hours to evacuate. Ok, fine, the residents of Fallujah flee, we bomb the hell out city empty or filled with slow people. Great. Now you want to search everyone of the residents in the city of Fallujah to find out who might have been there. Great, most of them have already left the city, but sure lets do that. According to this article, Fallujah has nearly 500,000 residents. So now we have to search what is left of what was once 500,000 residents, but is now about 100K-200K less people because they didn't all leave in time and some of them slipped out of the dragnet. So we have the Marines go and search all 300,000 to 400,000 residents of Fallujah, using the images captured from TV to find all of the people who were present. Now I haven't just spent several months in Iraq, so maybe it is easier for the troops there to easily distinguish by TV pictures exactly who is who and make positive IDs of the people in the photos and on TV. Then those who are "confirmed" get their heads "blown off on the spot". Sounds like a great and fair idea of justice.

WHY AM I THE ONLY ONE TIRED OF THIS NONSENSE!!! Lets wake up and live in reality. The government already said they are going to use a deliberate plan, find the people who did this, and deal with them accordingly. That sounds first of all realistic, fair, and just.

Don't you get it Powderman. No one on here has said lets let them go. No one said use diplomacy. We all think the responsible people ought to be brought to justice. Justice that includes either death in a gun fight or death by firing squad later. What we don't get is why so many people like you throw reality out the window and get all blood thirsty for everyone to die. Yeah those pictures piss me off. I hope the people that did it find justice.
 
"Syria has not had a Muslim extremist problem since."

Well, what also happened "since" makes it obvious to me why they haven't had an extremist problem, without having to look to this action as the cause. They've sponsored Hamas and Hezbollah since. So from Israel's point-of-view, Syria most certainly still has a Muslim extremist problem.

So instead of leveling Fallujah, if the US wants to stop further attacks, we should start sponsoring Hamas and Hezbollah.:scrutiny:
 
For the record, I think the American public needs to stop projecting American standards of behavior onto the Iraqis. These people don't understand the burden of responsibility behind RKBA and shoot each other (and us) up quite happily. These people don't care about American notions of justice or anything else you wish to dream they possess. While I understand that there might be some in this forum who are allergic to anything that could be construed as smacking of "racism" or "atrocity" I remind you all that these people play by very, very different rules, and if you have difficulty believing that I suggest you take a trip to Iraq to find out for yourself.

-pace
Surgical strikes gentlemen, that's the key IMHO. It bears repeating that we are fighting an ideology, an attitude and that cannot be defeated conventionally. We certainly can't enact the "Final Solution" as some have suggested. The thought process must be changed and that change can't be forced.

I find it highly odd to think "police actions" and limited airstrikes can save us. This is a war for survival, and we should all consider ourselves damn lucky we haven't had another 9/11 in the last three years. Preemption works well enough; we tie down and burn as many of the scumbags as humanly possible on their home turf rather than ours. In case this hasn't occured to some, there are a good many number in that part of the world who want all of us dead, dead, and dead. Which President was at fault is now moot. Of course, a long-standing final victory requires much more dedication and a real plan, but I think it bears thinking that every military casualty we sustain equates scores of potential civilian casualties averted at home. Let us not bemoan the status quo overmuch.

-El Rojo
So we have the Marines go and search all 300,000 to 400,000 residents of Fallujah, using the images captured from TV to find all of the people who were present. Now I haven't just spent several months in Iraq, so maybe it is easier for the troops there to easily distinguish by TV pictures exactly who is who and make positive IDs of the people in the photos and on TV. Then those who are "confirmed" get their heads "blown off on the spot". Sounds like a great and fair idea of justice.

Of course, the problem with this is that any police action in Iraq requires the cooperation of the local authorities. The address system in Iraq is Byzantine, and the sheer preponderance of people with beards and similarity of dress is a boondoggle to deal with unless you are Iraqi. There are no census records, and the question of who lives where or what is going to be answered only by the Iraqi police - who are going to distance themselves as far away as possible from such a fiasco in the making. Have I already mentioned the Iraqi police are worthless do-nothings collaborating with the insurgents? Even if the Marines do pull a mass cordon and search, not only will the insurgents most likely be tipped off, the mere act of showing up on the streets is going to draw insurgents and rioters out for battle. I think it bears repeating that the war never really ended, so don't expect this to be an 11 o'clock news item with large crowds of orange monkey suits being led away. Going after the perps in question, thanks to the Iraqi notion of extended family, means pitched battle with the entire freaking city. Good luck to the Marines.

Then there's the entire question of "oh we're a democracy, we don't do such things" etc ... I think the point needs to be made loud and clear that in wartime, such niceties are under suspension. While I hesitate from the comfort of stateside garrison to advocate we go out and raze Fallujah, the more we screw around, the further up the ante goes. While it might be distasteful to think about it, Mongol tactics secured peace in Asia for centuries. The question now is whether to bring the hammer down and solve at least one insurgency problem and possibly bring an end to resistance and some measure of stability to Iraq, or to deal with it after, say, terrorists detonate nuclear weapons of Pakistani, North Korean, or ex-Soviet origin on American soil someday.

But hey, if it's ok for us to lose onesies and twosies to these scumbags forever while they gain momentum, recruit more insurgents (success begets success) and arm themselves further, and possibly bring all of Iraq to a rolling civil war with Sunni vs. Shiite vs. Kurds vs. Turkomans vs. all of us, then we should "stay the course" of weakness. Regardless, I don't make the decisions, so I'll just wait for my next set of deployment orders. You all have a good night.

Peace out.
 
I think the point needs to be made loud and clear that in wartime, such niceties are under suspension

Well put.

While it might be distasteful to think about it, Mongol tactics secured peace in Asia for centuries. The question now is whether to bring the hammer down and solve at least one insurgency problem and possibly bring an end to resistance and some measure of stability to Iraq, or to deal with it after, say, terrorists detonate nuclear weapons of Pakistani, North Korean, or ex-Soviet origin on American soil someday.

While I think it's important to note that we are Americans, it's also important to note that we are Americans at war. Yes, it's important to use the least amount of force neccessary to accomplish the purpose...but it's also important to use enough force.

War is hell. But the war that ensues when the more powerfull of the parties is afraid to properly wage a war is a neverending hell.
 
If we are to allow ourselves to be undone by our degree of "civilization," then our definition of civilization--and what's at stake--was never sufficiently robust.

The fact that we have unleashed hell in prior wars--and for good reason--has not turned us into devils. We seem to have a hard time, in these decadent days, comprehending that all too obvious fact.

We'd better get straight about what we are facing and what it is going to take to overcome it.
 
El Rojo, you seem well rooted in the ideals and values that helped to make our country the best nation on earth. There's nothing wrong with that.

But, there's one thing that you don't seem to understand.

THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT YOU CAN NOT REASON WITH, TALK TO, OR NEGOTIATE WITH.

In almost every war we have fought, there have been atrocities. But the nation from which the soldiers or people came from that committed them made it abundantly clear that these were isolated incidents, and that they were not the norm.

The manner of these people (Iraqi fedayeen, hardcore loyalists to Saddam, etc.) was well demonstrated during the first Gulf War.

When the ballon went up, they did NOT stand--at least for the most part--and fight it out, soldier to soldier. No, they started lobbing Scuds at Israel.

ISRAEL?!?!?

Why? They weren't even involved in the mess at that time!!

Israel showed great restraint by not lobbing nukes back at them.

Now, these people attack Americans with an overwhelming mob. It wasn't enough to kill them. It wasn't enough to light off a few RPG's and a few hundred rounds.

No, they had to be animals. You saw the film.

Therefore, you should know that these ANIMALS can not be reasoned with. Same as a dog with rabies that attacks people--there's only one way to deal with them. Same as when you see one rat in your house--you know there are more.

You deal with it swiftly, with crushing, overwhelming force, and you make it known that there's plenty more where that came from.

When I'm on patrol, there are those that I run into during the night that sometimes want to test themselves. They do so by assuming an aggressive posture, or a combative stance.

With my (and most of the time, my partner's) response, I let them know, without mistake, that the choice they made was VERY poor indeed.

That's the only thing these animals understand--the business end of a firearm, in operation.

The last thing that goes through their minds in this case should be a 5.56mm full metal jacketed bullet.
 
But, there's one thing that you don't seem to understand.

THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT YOU CAN NOT REASON WITH, TALK TO, OR NEGOTIATE WITH.
Powderman, I understand that fully. That is why I have said numerous times: Find the people who did this, capture or kill them. I didn't say to negotiate with them. I didn't say talk to them. No one has said any of that. I don't even know what you are arguing about now. Would you please find at least one time in this ten pages of discussion where anyone said we should negotiate with the people who did this? Please, just one quote.

What we have been speaking out against is this constant babble about killing all of these "animals" and anyone who stands near them. This talk about leveling whole cities,: men, women, children, the elderly, everyone. That is what we speak out about. You continue to come up with these crazy ideas that only deal in some sick psychotic fantasy of death and destruction to anyone and everyone who speaks against us. IT IS OLD ALREADY!

When I'm on patrol, there are those that I run into during the night that sometimes want to test themselves. They do so by assuming an aggressive posture, or a combative stance.

With my (and most of the time, my partner's) response, I let them know, without mistake, that the choice they made was VERY poor indeed.
So because the animals you deal with on patrol need a good ass kicking, so do the animals in the Middle East right? In fact, anyone who stands up to you is nothing more than a stupid animal because how dare they challenge your power and authority? You are one tough mother. And so is America. We kill anyone who disagrees with us. Because that is all the rest of the stupid animal world understands, the business end of a gun. And we have the biggest guns around. Lets put them all in their places.

Again, I am all for using force when necessary. And when it is time to use force, you don't hold back. It is on. I just can't get into this chest beating and big man display of bravado. I don't see why you guys do it. If all these guys understand is force, then use force. You don't have to act all big and bad. You don't have to advocate killing everyone who gets in the way or fails to get out of the way. In fact, our government seems to be handling the situation quite well without making lame ultimatums and threatening civilians.

The way some people talk here, we are losing the war in Iraq because we haven't killed enough of them. All this talk about how America is weak because we haven't killed enough. Do we need another WWII in order to make progress? Do we have to level whole cities like the days of old to get our missions acomplished? It sounds more and more like it.
 
THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT YOU CAN NOT REASON WITH, TALK TO, OR NEGOTIATE WITH
I might disagree. There have been some public condemnations of the attack coming from Falluja clerics so there may be a chance
What if we distribute pamphlets with photos of the main actors in the attacks offerring a small reward for their capture giving the good people of the town the opportunity to prove that they are sincere. Give them a 3 day time period to turn over the offenders to the American authorities in the area.

At the end of the grace period make 2 surgical strikes in the city at key locations of community. Give them another 6 hours then make a another surgical strike on the most prominent area of town, then give them 2 hours more to turn over the offenders.

At the end of that time period, with an all volunteer assault team made up of Army Rangers, Marines of any flavour, and throw in some Delta and Seal teams and assault the town with a blinding fury that the world has not seen in 60 years.

The plan to me makes perfect sense, you give the people a chance to show their innocence if they fail you show them and the rest of the "rebels" in Iraq the error of their ways. The kid gloves have to come off and an example must be made. The civil rules of war rule don't seem to be working well in this town they are playing by street rules.

If 100 Rangers can fight their way out of a hostile town that size with faulty inteligence no real plan of action, and barely adequate support, with minimal casulalties then a well planned well supported and well motivated strike team 10 times that size should be able to fight their way in and achieve any objective given to them
 
Some folks will do anything they can to spin against our being in Iraq

The leftists in general have been having a field day with the "they were just mercenaries" tripe, acting as if its another "gotcha" against the President that these security consultants (i.e. "mercenaries") are there at all.

Some popular lefty blogger "The Daily Kos" posted a "who cares they were mercenaries in the illegal war" screed that has the right wing blogs all in an uproar.

www.rightwingnews.com
 
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