Ammo Shortage Is It Real ??
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CoalCrackerAl
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Ammo is coming back in stock finally. Folks bought a lot of guns when the world turned upside down. The MFG'S are now catching up. Prices starting to come down too. My neighbor bought some Federal 550 count 22 at walmart the other day. For 22 bucks.
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Some truth to the supposition.
Priority goes to military contracts, secondarily Federal Gov. contracts. Thirdly, state and local governments contracts. Then allocations to commercial distribution as stock comes available.
Due to import restrictions and tariffs or out right bans, we see the effects of the past shortages reducing old stock to non exhistance.
Such is the new reality.
I haven’t bought “new” 9, .40, or .45 service grade ammunition in more than 2 decades. I’ve been given old stock L.E. Ammo, but recent purchase of .30SC for ammo and brass donor, I’ve only bought.22rf. 98% of my shooting is with reloads.
Priority goes to military contracts, secondarily Federal Gov. contracts. Thirdly, state and local governments contracts. Then allocations to commercial distribution as stock comes available.
Due to import restrictions and tariffs or out right bans, we see the effects of the past shortages reducing old stock to non exhistance.
Such is the new reality.
I haven’t bought “new” 9, .40, or .45 service grade ammunition in more than 2 decades. I’ve been given old stock L.E. Ammo, but recent purchase of .30SC for ammo and brass donor, I’ve only bought.22rf. 98% of my shooting is with reloads.
I can find ammo, for example if I wanted 9mm HST:
https://ammoseek.com/ammo/9mm-luger/Federal?ikw=Hst
But the prices are
https://ammoseek.com/ammo/9mm-luger/Federal?ikw=Hst
But the prices are
Hangingrock
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Product availability is based on supply and demand. Should there be an abnormal product demand the resultant is shortages and cost increase. Its that simple.
FL-NC
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I can get all the ammo I want. But I ain't paying what they are asking. I guess some people are.
Ks5shooter
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I make my own. Over the years when specials are run on components I buy some .Im good for almost forever.
There's plenty of ammo in my local stores but as others have said, they want an arm and a leg for it. I really don't care if price of .22 is coming down, I am more concerned about center fire and reloading components. I was shooting during Vietnam and the military and government agencies were buying tons of ammo back then and us civilians had no problem getting what we needed at regular prices. This whole ammo thing has been BS. I don't know why or how but something smells fishy.
Pudge
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I can find ammo, for example if I wanted 9mm HST:
https://ammoseek.com/ammo/9mm-luger/Federal?ikw=Hst
But the prices are
Yeah, I'm seeing lots of stuff, even components, and some prices aren't horrible, but others are out of sight. On a Pennsylvania specific classifieds board, I'm seeing more firearms that are offered at ok prices. I think there may be some light at the end of the tunnel, but we're not there yet.
Ignition Override
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Use Ammoseek. We cant evaluate the broad US ammunition markets based on Walmart, not even based on Academy etc.
Do you know what an ammo “search engine” is?
If you are familiar , have you used one of these?
I’ve not seen Any shortages for Popular ammo “chamberings” for Many months.
Do you know what an ammo “search engine” is?
If you are familiar , have you used one of these?
I’ve not seen Any shortages for Popular ammo “chamberings” for Many months.
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Reloadron
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Ammo Shortage Is It Real ??
Well I figure it this way. The ammunition shortage is a lot less real today than a year ago today. I have watched ammunition and reloading component shortages come and go since the mid 90s. Really not just ammunition either. A few years ago toilet paper was as scarce as ammunition. Just about any and every commodity cost more today than a year ago, much more.
Ron
Well I figure it this way. The ammunition shortage is a lot less real today than a year ago today. I have watched ammunition and reloading component shortages come and go since the mid 90s. Really not just ammunition either. A few years ago toilet paper was as scarce as ammunition. Just about any and every commodity cost more today than a year ago, much more.
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CapnMac
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There was an ammo shortage.
First, around a million brand new owners each bought a box or two with their new possession. There's a couple million boxes right there.
Second, people in "our" community went and "stocked up." That's anywhere from 10 to 40 million more boxes.
This was all in the span of a couple months, not an entire year.
Third, the couf hit. The ammo factories had to shut down. The Ammo distributors had to shut down. The Ammo wholesalers had to shut down. Even many of the LGS & BBs had to shut down.
Now, suddenly, "our" community was in "feed me, Seymour" mode. Many, far too many, of "us" were also cooped up at home, too; we had time on our hands. And, we had time to be invested in the news, so, we heard it all, right, wrong, flat-out imaginary, news.
What did "we" do? We went online and bought, bought, bought. (It's what we do.) But, we were buying out of a closed-off supply. So, "we" for right, or for wrong, bought the shelves bare. Many--probably too many--turned a shortage in to a "situation."
Sadly, some took advantage of the situation and made it worse by "scalping" what supply there was, just exacerbating the problem.
It's taken a couple of years, but the supply is "bouncing back." My LGS is chock full of ammo (other than 38spl and 30-30--but has 32acp, 357sig, and 30carbine). Now, the prices are not ideal--they reflect all the shipping premiums needed to get the ammo before some other vendor did. I'm told the big box stores are similarly full--if occasionally with case lots of oddball ammo types.
As the supply catches up, the price will come down. That's the nature of supply and demand.
It's easy to assign nefarious and inimical intent to things. But, somethings just "are" what they are.
First, around a million brand new owners each bought a box or two with their new possession. There's a couple million boxes right there.
Second, people in "our" community went and "stocked up." That's anywhere from 10 to 40 million more boxes.
This was all in the span of a couple months, not an entire year.
Third, the couf hit. The ammo factories had to shut down. The Ammo distributors had to shut down. The Ammo wholesalers had to shut down. Even many of the LGS & BBs had to shut down.
Now, suddenly, "our" community was in "feed me, Seymour" mode. Many, far too many, of "us" were also cooped up at home, too; we had time on our hands. And, we had time to be invested in the news, so, we heard it all, right, wrong, flat-out imaginary, news.
What did "we" do? We went online and bought, bought, bought. (It's what we do.) But, we were buying out of a closed-off supply. So, "we" for right, or for wrong, bought the shelves bare. Many--probably too many--turned a shortage in to a "situation."
Sadly, some took advantage of the situation and made it worse by "scalping" what supply there was, just exacerbating the problem.
It's taken a couple of years, but the supply is "bouncing back." My LGS is chock full of ammo (other than 38spl and 30-30--but has 32acp, 357sig, and 30carbine). Now, the prices are not ideal--they reflect all the shipping premiums needed to get the ammo before some other vendor did. I'm told the big box stores are similarly full--if occasionally with case lots of oddball ammo types.
As the supply catches up, the price will come down. That's the nature of supply and demand.
It's easy to assign nefarious and inimical intent to things. But, somethings just "are" what they are.
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IDK man, everything conspiracy has become fact, especially in the last 6 yearsHuh, uh! It's a conspiracy - nothing "simple" about it.
Blkhrt13
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But when will primers and brass come back at anything reasonable ?
Riomouse911
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In urban Ca things are tighter. Between restrictions on buying ammo through the mail (must go through FFL) and needing a background check to buy in a store, we are kind of trapped. This means dealers can pretty much charge what they want and many times shelves aren’t very full.
Stay safe
Stay safe
Appalachiannative
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If I was you man I'd get the heck out of CaliforniaIn urban Ca things are tighter. Between restrictions on buying ammo through the mail (must go through FFL) and needing a background check to buy in a store, we are kind of trapped. This means dealers can pretty much charge what they want and many times shelves aren’t very full.
Stay safe
JCooperfan1911
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The ammo nooks are bountiful near me.
But the prices have not budged an inch.
But the prices have not budged an inch.
Probably what your neighbor bought was Federal Auto Match in the 325 round box.
Walmart has it for that price every time I go in there.
HighRoadRover
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Ammo is starting to show up at vendors. I've seen 9mm for as low as .30 a round.
The "new" price for pistol primers is going to be around .08 or .09, compared to the old price of between .03 and .04. More than double. I base that on what I paid for it when I found some at a reputable dealer who wasn't otherwise gouging, plus the list (MSRP) prices I see on the internet companies - even though most don't have any in stock right now and haven't for a long time. BTW, one of the big internet companies did have Large Pistol primers a few weeks ago - gone like a flash. But that was a good sign that they had it at all.
Now, what will the effect of the elections be this fall? Well, if one party wins, the crunch might ease. If the other party wins, then there will be renewed demand on the system of supply.
The "new" price for pistol primers is going to be around .08 or .09, compared to the old price of between .03 and .04. More than double. I base that on what I paid for it when I found some at a reputable dealer who wasn't otherwise gouging, plus the list (MSRP) prices I see on the internet companies - even though most don't have any in stock right now and haven't for a long time. BTW, one of the big internet companies did have Large Pistol primers a few weeks ago - gone like a flash. But that was a good sign that they had it at all.
Now, what will the effect of the elections be this fall? Well, if one party wins, the crunch might ease. If the other party wins, then there will be renewed demand on the system of supply.
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It was $0.15 this time two years ago.
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