Anti Significant Others....

[Pyzon]

Chef-

1.) Buy a safe for your gun(s). Kids figure out how to get ahold of guns on high shelves and how to unlock them every day. Someday you will forget to lock it or hide it, and you'll be sorry for the rest of your life.

2.) Improve the security around your house first and you'll have less need to have a gun outside of your safe on a daily basis. Keeping the boogieman outside is easier than dealing with him inside. And obviously the likelihood of your daughter getting her hands on it will be far lessened. Someday your daughter will be old enough to understand gun safety. Until then, keep 'em locked up.

3.) Lets face it, you have issues other than guns you need to resolve with this gal. Be honest or be unhappy.

And regarding the dog/fire hydrant thing, I would suggest it is more like choosing to be either the sheep or the sheepdog.

 

[JellyJar]

Orionengnr wrote:

As far as that Magna-Trigger goes, you have to be kidding. Snake oil, gimmickry, crap with a capital C.

Do some research on this forum. No less a figure than Mas Ayood recommends them. He had on installed on a revolver of his and even carried it on duty at times. Once he tried to buy the patents from the inventor but the inventor would not sell them to him because Mas was going to offer the device to civilians not just LEOs.

It works. I may be too inconvenient for most people but it does work.

 

[Arkansas Paul]

It may be callouse, but it would be an absolute deal breaker. My house will have guns in it. A lot of them. Period. Anyone who has a problem with that doesn't have to come in my house whether we're talking about women or anyone else. Don't take this wrong. I've been married for almost 8 years and my wife and I have a wonderful relationship. I care very much what she thinks and believes. But I married someone who shares my beliefs. In my opinion to decide to live with someone who cares nothing about your beliefs or decisions is insane. Opposites may attract, but it's usually short lived.

 

[ArmedBear]

With 3.3 billion women in the world, I'd say "buh-bye!"

 

[miket]

The OP needs to grow a pair and do this with that "relationship"...

 

[meytind]

For everyone telling the OP to bail on the relationship, keep in mind he has a kid. A dad bailing on a kid tends to mess them up anywhere from a little to a whole lot.

 

[f4t9r]

tell her to take a safety coarse with you or learn more about gun safety.
What does she think is going to save you when the next guy kicks in the door. I can understand some people being concerned with a gun in the house, but she should trust you enough to know you will keep it in a safe place.

 

[bigfatdave]

Also, I think when I'm a father I'll be far more concerned about kitchen knives, swimming pools, car accidents, garbage disposals and cleaning chemicals than an empty, hidden, locked up gun.

She needs to be more concerned with sharp kitchen implements, cleaners, poisons, detergents, medicines, vitamins, etc. than a gun that is secured as you mentioned.

Very true statements.
Perhaps pulling the statistics on child deaths and pointing out the relative percentages of gun vs other deaths would be helpful.

 

[esquare]

Just have her look here:

a-human-right.org

And let her decide for herself.

 

[miket]

For everyone telling the OP to bail on the relationship, keep in mind he has a kid.

Must not be that important to him, then. That's a HUGE thing in a relationship. And, that was "conveniently" left out of the first post. By and large, most people would have said something to the effect of, "We've been together for a long time, but we're not married. However, we DO have a child together, so..."

He did NOT mention that fact from the get-go.

 

[achttung]

As to a practical solution, either go to a gun safety or CC course together, keep the "out of sight/out of mind" going*, secure it better (as in on your person), or get her to stop and think rationally**.

That last part was a joke, right?

 

[Just One Shot]

If they're an anti they couldn't be my significant other!

 

[MarineOne]

She is just worried that our 18 month old daughter will somehow climb to the top shelf in the closet, unlock the case (I have the only key), place the magazine in the pistol, cock the gun and chamber a load, and fire it...

Folks, this is called "projecting". She is projecting her fears onto her child, and while we are all adults and understand the limitations an 18 month old has for climbing approximately 8 to 10 times her height, picking a lock, loading a magazine into a pistol, and chambering a round .... much less fire the weapon and not look like that one woman on the YouTube video shooting the .50AE semi-auto pistol that kisses her across her face.

We all know this isn't going to happen, but this is how she justifies her fear.

The only way to get her over this fear is to use it against her.

You could try the "How can I protect you and the baby if we have another break-in?" routine and see what she says. There should be some way to show her how long the average 911 call is answered in your part of town. She is a Criminal Justice major, use her own education against her.

Then it's "I can defend us in under 1 minute, while the police will take another 'X' minutes to get here.".



Kris

 

[Corporal K]

MarineOne nails it.

Over 50% of the marriages in the US end in divorce, and I would wager that most of the "dump-her" tough guys on the thread are divorced too, or not in a relationship.

Her fears for the child are her fears, even if they may not be rational. Listen to her (repeating back what she said is a good sign of listening) and address the issue calmly and logically.

A good relationship is a lot harder to come by these days than a new wonder-thunder.

 

[miket]

Yup, I'm in the "dump her" camp. And...I'm divorced...and happily remarried...8 years this Feb. 2.5 years the first time with NO kids, thankfully. My problem was TRYING to deal with someone like this in my first marriage. IT WILL NOT WORK AND/OR YOU WILL BE VERY UNHAPPY. Mark my words...

 

[Onward Allusion]

So, my long-time girlfriend (we are basically married) and I always butt heads when it comes to me having a gun. She is terrified of them. So much, in fact, that I have to keep it out of sight and constantly tell her that the gun is safely unloaded and tucked away (mostly true) She is always saying "I don't want that THING in this house!" To which I reply "It's my house too"

I don't ever think I will be able to convince her that responsible gun ownership is not a bad thing. I tell her that it is better to have one and not need it, rather than needing one and it be too late... And all this is after someone tried to kick our front door in one late night (reason why I own a gun).

So my question is, how many of you out there have to deal with this, and HOW do you deal with it?

Got to this late, but I was married to a similar woman except she wouldn't even let me keep the firearms IN the house. I had the safe in the garage - one of the worst locations in the world. I ended up divorcing her a number of years later and found myself a girl who is open minded enough to give firearms a chance. She now shoots with me and has her own firearms.

The bottom line is that you're not going to change and she's not going to change. The only way things will work out is through compromise. Y'all have to look at your core values and you can work it through. If not...well...

 

[CoRoMo]

Over the course of my marriage, I've changed, and my wife has changed. We are far different, than the people we were twelve years ago. People can change, but not all people do.

 

[HexHead]

MarineOne nails it.

Over 50% of the marriages in the US end in divorce, and I would wager that most of the "dump-her" tough guys on the thread are divorced too, or not in a relationship.

Her fears for the child are her fears, even if they may not be rational. Listen to her (repeating back what she said is a good sign of listening) and address the issue calmly and logically.

A good relationship is a lot harder to come by these days than a new wonder-thunder.

Nope, been married going on 27 years and my advice is kick her to the curb. It's not just the gun, she's obviously irrational and that's going to cause other problems on other things down the line. He needs to man up and try to stay in the kid's life and give her child support, but he needs to find a woman that shares his values to live a happy life with.

 

[miket]

It's not just the gun, she's obviously irrational and that's going to cause other problems on other things down the line.

BINGO. The kid's only 18 months...just WAIT until SHE decides how to raise, discipline, etc the kid. Good luck!

 

[InkEd]

The reason for having your gun is home defense. You clearly value the safety of the family more than your girlfriend. If the gun is properly stroessner in safe pleat she hasno legitimate argument.

 

[ArmedBear]

Over the course of my marriage, I've changed, and my wife has changed. We are far different, than the people we were twelve years ago. People can change, but not all people do.

Ditto here. Changed for the better, in part because of the support of the other person.

But we didn't enter into that marriage with massively different belief systems and values.

 

[stchman]

I feel for you. Must be true love.

I guess she is afraid that they will just explode or something.

My girlfriend HAD fears about guns, but she is over them.

She needs to understand that this is a part of your life.

My big advantage is that I own the house.

Here is the solution:

GET A GUN SAFE!!!!!!!

 

[miket]

My big advantage is that I own the house.

Actually, you don't and you never will...don't pay your property taxes for awhile and see what happens.

But, I get your drift...

 

[Onward Allusion]

Over the course of my marriage, I've changed, and my wife has changed. We are far different, than the people we were twelve years ago. People can change, but not all people do.

Ok - Let me caveat my original post by saying that all people CAN change, however, most don't, especially when they try to change for another person and not themselves.

 

[ArmedBear]

My big advantage is that I own the house.

You won't if you get married. You REALLY won't if you get divorced.