Anyone point an "unloaded" gun at you?

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Right before I left Texas to move back to Alabama I made one last trip to my favorite outdoor shooting range north of Houston. As I was leaving an older woman next to me with a Jennings pistol of what ever caliber pointed the dam thing at me!!! :fire: :what:

As I pushed her hand with the gun in it away from me she uttered these immortal words...It isn't loaded!:cuss:

How many here have been at a gun range, public private or whatever and had someone point an "unloaded" gun at them? :banghead:
 
Umm every time I'm at a gun store? Or a gun show? Or a gun range? Sadly, it happens all the time
 
All guns are loaded.
Yes, I've been in a sporting goods store, only to look towards the gun counter, and see myself staring down the barrel of a rifle, while someone targeted me with a scope.
I think the look I gave him made him turn away, but I didn't like it.
 
I have a friend who is a game warden. People like to use their rifle scopes to see who that is is walking their way when she comes to check them out.

A rifle scope is just as good as binoculars eh?

I could only imagine the stress an LEO would feel when they are going to check someone out and notice the cross hairs are on them.... Uff da... Are they just that stupid or are they gonna put her in a pine box? No one has put her in a pine box yet.

She says it happens once a year at least.

99% chance that the gun is loaded too.
 
Yes, and it usually results in me grabbing the barrel and pointing it away from myself, usually straight up. And with the "Dad Look" asking what the **** they think they are doing. Most have no idea what just happened.
 
Oh boy, I've got a story for you. It involves a friend of mine (who is actually a member of this forum). I can tell you the story from what he told me, but maybe he'll come along to fill in the details.
He was at work (a small machine shop) when somehow they all got to talking about guns. One of his coworkers pulled out a pen-gun to show everyone. My friend (Fulleffect1911) asked to see the pen-gun and asked if it was loaded. His coworker pointed the gun at him, cocked it, and pulled the trigger. "See, not loaded" he said. Fulleffect1911 told me he was so shocked by the stupidity of the act that he was speechless. I also know the guy he's talking about, and though he's a nice guy, he is amazingly careless with a gun in his hand.
 
I took an "open carry" class for work as the class is required to get a license to open carry in the city of Omaha where I work (stupid law considering the rest of the state is constitutional open carry). While there, I was flagged no less than 30 times within a 4 hour span with "unloaded" and "demilled" firearms. The instructor went over the safety rules once in the three day class, and we spent no more than 5 minutes on them if that. Needless to say on the exit review I left less than satisfactory remarks. The most important thing about firearms is the safety aspect of it. I guess I wouldn't have had any issue with the 5 minutes on safety rules if the class was actually applicable to open carry and not an intro course to handguns.

When I taught Rifle and Shotgun at the local Boy Scout Camp, if a rifle or shotgun was pointed anywhere but down range, your butt was hiking back to your camp site. At the local range, the RSO's are pretty cautious and generally give folks a stern talking to if they point the gun anywhere but up, down, or down range. Personally, I always say downrange is best, unloaded or otherwise.

That open carry class was painful to sit through on various counts. Being an NRA certified instructor in Rifle and Shotgun didn't help. To make matters worse, we covered very briefly the law concerning open carry within the city, but never went over any scenarios. Talk about a horrible class design.

At any rate, I'd say it is sadly common to be flagged by an "unloaded" gun in various classes and at the range or gun store. I'm pretty cognizant of my surroundings and what I do with firearms so it must look strange to those folks when I'm ducking for the floor when the barrel comes my way.
 
years back, deer hunting. Standing by my car trunk, a kid that I had brought hunting saw a pistol in my trunk, grabbed it up and pointed it at my head and said "stick 'em up!" after he picked himself up from my automatic reaction butt-stroke, I apologized for hitting him...
 
I was in a local farm and ranch store that also happens to sell firearms. I was perusing the pistols in the glass showcase when the kid behind the counter asked if I would like to see a pistol. Sure I replied, “let me see that Springfield XD”. The highly qualified 19 year old high school graduate behind the counter obliged by withdrawing the pistol from the showcase and pointing it straight at my chest. My 21 years of martial arts training took over. I twisted my body out of the way and violently trapped the pistol with both hands and hollered WOAH! The kid’s eyes were as big as saucers at this point. As I released my vice like grip on his small hands I said in a low voice. “We know this pistol is supposed to be unloaded but until we check it, let’s pretend it is OK? He just stared blankly and said “YYYYes sir.”
 
My brother in law did it with a Ruger 10/22, I looked over and was staring down a swinging muzzle. I told him in a little bit harsher words " point that thing to the ground " & got a it isn't loaded. I tell you what I'v wanted to square him a way quite a few time's but on that occasion he was closest.
 
Marine comes back on the after hump. Weapons check in process. I am stnding on the deck looking down and he points his weapon at me. Being to far away i find his sargent and tell him.
Sarg brings him to the shop. He rips the "Private" a new a-hole. As a final displine he ask me for my imput. I said " Private, I you every point a weapon at me again I will literally shove that weapon up your A$%."
 
A few years ago in Germany, a private was running a clearing check outside a dining facility, and he stopped a lieutenant and told him he needed to clear his pistol. The LT yelled at him, put the muzzle on his sternum, and said, "It isn't loaded, see?!"; pulled the trigger, and blew out the kid's spine, dead instantly. My soldiers know I will counsel them if they don't control their muzzles.
 
My friend is a bit of a jerk. He will point his nine,shotgun,Ak, and whatever else he has at me loaded or not.
 
Was shooting 5 stand with a guy one time and he was talking to me and turned around at his station sweeping everyone there while he was loading it up. Several of us ducked.

The CWP class I took was horrendous. There were a few Indians and a few larger black women. Nothing against them, but I the Indian guy had never handled a gun before it seemed and was using the instructors rental guns for the test. First thing he does as we are putting our targets up is load the gun and walk around with. Then as we get ready to fire he cant hear too well what the instructor is saying since he has hearing protection on and turns to me to ask whats going on, gun pointed at me and all. Every time I get a gun point at me I get a little closer to hitting someone the next time they do it.
 
More times than I care to think about. These stories should be a reminder for all of us to be vigilant and pay attention to our muzzles.
 
^^^doesn't sound like a good friend, IMHO

Was actually a friends dad. He ended getting shot with his own gun in a freak accident where he was riding a 4 wheeler to a hunting spot and his gun came off the gun mount and discharged the bullet through his right forearm from wrist to elbow, pretty much destroying everything in between. His recovery has been going well though. That one not thinking shotgun sweep moment is the only time I have been uneasy around him.
 
If anyone ever intentionally pointed a weapon at me (not a wave over, or unconcious point) I would either disarm them immediately, or pull out my gun (depending on whether my gun is on me). Whenever someone accidentaly points at me, I give them a stern talking to and forgive them (we all make mistakes after all), but when someone points it at you for any reason, even joking, if it's not an accident, it should immediately be taken as a threat, whether they say their kidding or not, it's serious **** to point a firearm at somebody.
 
mljdeckard:

I will remember your lesson about that senseless tragedy (in Germany) for a long time.

It reminds me of how so many accidents are now caused by using phones/ high-tech devices while driving.

Do people tend to have scorn for manual tasks which involve doing just one important thing at a time?
They apparently feel that their time is too important to waste it on driving safety, or checking Gun Chambers And Magazines for the sixth time in one hour etc.
 
Yaknow, there is a rule that I am anal about with my kids and even my friends ( the ones who don't already know better): ALWAYS check the chamber on a weapon when you pick it up or some hands it to you. Always always always.
 
This happens quite a bit. Sadly, I'm fairly numb to it at this point. It annoys me, but I also recognize that it sometimes happens completely by accident. Nevertheless, I'm getting a bit tired of having guns pointed at me lately... as follows:

1) Two gun stores in the past week, both times by employees, and in both cases it wasn't like a simple "sweep" as they moved the gun past, or a gun placed on a counter.

2) My department's shooting range. Some idiot swept me with a loaded gun. Of course, judging by the number of holes in the ceiling and floor of our range, we have quite a few idiots carrying guns in my department

3) My department's evidence bureau. Someone thought the gun I had recovered was interesting, and since I wasn't holding it for fingerprints, they proceeded to pick it up and clear it while pointing it more or less at my face. Fortunately I already positively knew the gun was unloaded, but it is still a piss-poor practice, especially from a fellow officer. I responded by saying: "Don't worry about clearing it, I can see down the barrel from here, and it doesn't look like it's chambered". I think this one got the point.
 
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