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Ergonomics! 1911's fit my hand, the double stacks we have here do not. Not even the Sig my wife has. If i am relegated to a single-stack side arm, why not make it .45 ACP 
Aren't all 1911 owners Romantics?
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I'll probably get flamed for it but MY opinion is as follows:
1911= the greatest fighting pistol the world has ever seen.
1911= possibly the worst choice for civilian ccw and/or self defense for the vast majority of individuals.
That said I have owned them, shot them and even carried one ( for about six months when having to work in a "combat zone"of an urban area in my sixty-odd years.
My concealed carry choice is a S&W revolver, I shoot single action revolvers in competition (SASS) and alas just sold my last 1911.
Sure do miss it lol!
1911= the greatest fighting pistol the world has ever seen.
1911= possibly the worst choice for civilian ccw and/or self defense for the vast majority of individuals.
That said I have owned them, shot them and even carried one ( for about six months when having to work in a "combat zone"of an urban area in my sixty-odd years.
My concealed carry choice is a S&W revolver, I shoot single action revolvers in competition (SASS) and alas just sold my last 1911
.Sure do miss it lol!
hardluk1
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It took me 43 years of shooting to buy a 1911. Its a good pistol. Works well, goes bang ever time like its suppose to. More accurate than some, worse than others I will not carry one . They have a place but for me there not better than many others to me. I do carry a single stack but a light one.
What surprised me is the pistol I shot best is my wifes M&Pc with apex kit. That pistol is just easy for me to shot well. So well it has me think about a M&P 45 . Werd
What surprised me is the pistol I shot best is my wifes M&Pc with apex kit. That pistol is just easy for me to shot well. So well it has me think about a M&P 45 . Werd
What? I have, first of all, I own several; why that comment though?
Now I'm starting to wonder if youve ever shot one?
I can't speak for others, but I definitely have a "love affair" with 1911s that stretches back to my USMC days many years ago. I own more contemporary semiautos, but the 1911 is my favorite both for its long-standing reputation through both world wars and sentimental reasons.
"Because none of those have triggers in the same ballpark as a good 1911
I own a couple BHP's with C&S trigger jobs, and they still cannot compete.
Maybe if you would have said a P210 then we could argue semantics."
And no 1911 that I've ever shot has as good a trigger as a really nice Smith and Wesson. Many halfway decent SA/DA pistols have a trigger that's about as good as an average 1911, albeit with more overtravel, but hey
I own a couple BHP's with C&S trigger jobs, and they still cannot compete.
Maybe if you would have said a P210 then we could argue semantics."
And no 1911 that I've ever shot has as good a trigger as a really nice Smith and Wesson. Many halfway decent SA/DA pistols have a trigger that's about as good as an average 1911, albeit with more overtravel, but hey
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There is nothing wrong with some romanticism now and then. It has it's place. As others have said there is a bit of that attached to the 1911 a bit also to some other guns. Here is a bit of romantic doggerel about a rifle...
It's from about 1941 or so, The Rifleman's Creed by Major General William H. Rupertus, USMC;
Full of romance that but to the point also. It's important to learn the 1911 to get the most from it.
tipoc
It's from about 1941 or so, The Rifleman's Creed by Major General William H. Rupertus, USMC;
Full of romance that but to the point also. It's important to learn the 1911 to get the most from it.
tipoc
Resist Evil
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I dated several girls, even married one of 'em, but when I found the right one, I got rid of the first and married the second one many years ago.
I owned several semiautomatic handguns made by different manufacturers, in .380 and 9mm calibers, for many years. When I found the 1911 in .45ACP, I found the right one and got rid of most of the other handguns I had.
There was nothing remotely romantic about it.
I owned several semiautomatic handguns made by different manufacturers, in .380 and 9mm calibers, for many years. When I found the 1911 in .45ACP, I found the right one and got rid of most of the other handguns I had.
There was nothing remotely romantic about it.
I wanted a pistol that had readily available parts, readily available service , decent ammo availability and decent accuracy.
It's a "classic" John Moses Browning design -- but so is a Ma Deuce. Some designs are difficult to improve on.
I'll admit to being a romantic, I have a long standing love affair with the 1911, but don't think for 1 second that all 1911 owners are hopeless romantics.
The 1911 hasn't survived this long on sheer romanticism and nostalgia, it is a great handgun in it's own right.
The 1911 hasn't survived this long on sheer romanticism and nostalgia, it is a great handgun in it's own right.
420Stainless
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Considering that the platform still seems to dominate competitions I'd say not. I stopped carrying one for the most part in favor of a polymer, but not the double stack you described, instead for a very lightweight, compact, concealable package. Nothing wrong with the double stacks, I think the XD45 is a tremendous design, but for most people that are not in law enforcement or military I don't believe capacity is really an issue.
Officers'Wife
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Superior, like beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Some are suited to the inferior particularities that plague every system, including the 1911. There is no such thing as one size fits all. The beauty of capitalism is the consumer doesn't have to settle for an item that doesn't fit. For various reasons I like the 1911 design, mostly for it's accuracy and simplicity. Hubby likes his Browning for the double action. My Dad prefers his .45 ACP, hubby his 9mm and I like my .38 Super. In the end all that matters is the tool will do the job at hand.
As my late uncle would say in this situation... The best designed weapon is the one you have when the -- uh -- organic fertilizer hits the air conditioning.
RetiredUSNChief
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"Aren't all 1911 owners Romantics?"
Heh! I'm sure there are plenty of us out there who are, in fact, "Romantics". However, I should think that this would apply to some groups of people with respect to any given gun.
Guns are like women, in a way. There are a great many sizes, shapes, colors, and weights and they all have their own "performance characteristics". What one man likes may not be what another man likes. By the same token, several men who like the same thing may do so for the same reasons.
Ultimately, the bottom line is whether or not the OWNER likes the firearm...not whether or not anybody else does.
Heh! I'm sure there are plenty of us out there who are, in fact, "Romantics". However, I should think that this would apply to some groups of people with respect to any given gun.
Guns are like women, in a way. There are a great many sizes, shapes, colors, and weights and they all have their own "performance characteristics". What one man likes may not be what another man likes. By the same token, several men who like the same thing may do so for the same reasons.
Ultimately, the bottom line is whether or not the OWNER likes the firearm...not whether or not anybody else does.
matrem
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Coming from the most non romantic person ever according to my wife of thirty years, anyhow, (only when she's mad at me, though)
I appreciate old technology for what it was when needed, and anything I own that isn't as good as "today" can deliver would never be called on to defend a life.
One of my 1911s is in place to defend those lives.
Because it works.
Extensive experience with glocks, m&ps, xds, hks. yep...
Also have two of those outside the toolbox ready to defend.
I trust my 1911s because they work. Being able to shoot them at least as well or better is a bonus.
I appreciate old technology for what it was when needed, and anything I own that isn't as good as "today" can deliver would never be called on to defend a life.
One of my 1911s is in place to defend those lives.
Because it works.
Extensive experience with glocks, m&ps, xds, hks. yep...
Also have two of those outside the toolbox ready to defend.
I trust my 1911s because they work. Being able to shoot them at least as well or better is a bonus.
Deer_Freak
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I am not a fan of the 1911 and I never will be. But most people complain about the capacity ot the 1911. I am wondering if I am surrounded by spies or james bond himself. If you plan on getting into a shoot out that can't be handled with less than 8 shots you need to go on a ride along with several police officers so they can improve your situational awareness.
AethelstanAegen
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There are some practical reasons for carrying a 1911 over a double stack. I really like both my 1911 and my XD Compact. Even though the XD has a shorter barrel and more rounds, my 1911 is carried more often. The reason is very similar. The XD is considerably fatter than the 1911. I can easily conceal my full size 1911 IWB because it's a rather flat gun. My XD I find much harder to conceal because it's so much wider. Likewise, XD mags are huge compared to 1911 mags, so while the 1911 only has 8 round in it, I am more likely to bring spare mags in a pocket, whereas if the XD is carried, I almost never bring spare mags because they are really too large for a pocket. Thus I may really have 24 rounds while carrying my 1911, but while carrying the XD I would have 10. I'm very intrigued by the XDS and I'll be picking one up when the budget allows it.
TL;DR: The 1911 beats out my double stack XD in conceal-ability very easily.
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