buck460XVR
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Having two sons, over the years I have bought 2 handguns multiple times at the same time. Never been delayed, nor have I ever had a "knock" on the door. Must be more to it.
There is always more to it, much more to it, and it is depressing to see U tubers of this type playing on fear and ignorance just as the antis do. Use your noggin and don't facilitate this nonsense, please.Must be more to it.
Has "social" media become the new "main stream" media?.
Again, a request to see your guns is just a request, and not a search. You are free to decline such a request. That's pretty easy....just say "Nope."If they are requesting to view anything that I keep in my house, or any of my property, that is a search.
But misleading thread titles get more clicks babeeeee!The title is misleading, they are not randomly going door to door
Social media.The ATF has been checking multiple gun sales for a long time. Whats different about this?.
I'm getting tired of THR members breathlessly posting such videos.I am glad to see that most people here are viewing this video critically.
To be honest, I'm getting a little tired of these gun youtube influencers jumping right to sky-is-falling panic and dread.
It IS normal procedure and has been for decades.Could it be that they are trying to drum up view counts? Has "social" media become the new "main stream" media? My immediate take on this is that this is not a normal procedure, thus, something else must be afoot here. Something is hidden from us.
Nothing in the Constitution prohibits LE from asking a person questions.With that said, all Americans really need to know their rights and the limits placed upon the government by the Constitution.
From all the different versions I have seen the homeowner produced one rifle and they checked it and the ATF and police left after that satisfied.I did not get to see whether the homeowner returned with the guns or not, ending missing. Boo.
My FFL is in Houston and I frequently buy 3-7 FFL items at a time when they are on sale (mostly AR lowers). I also try to consolidate my transfers to them and pick up anywhere from 3-6 at a time every few weeks or so to save on paperwork and $. As of yet I haven't had any visits from these guys. Maybe I'll be the next guy they visit though if this is a trend.That's what I wanted to see also. Did he show the guns and they left? I'm guessing he showed them and they left without incident...
How many did he buy? 2 or 7? If someone is buying 7 guns at a time and it's an area where straw purchases happen frequently, I'm glad they are out trying to reduce criminal behavior. The gun community always shouts that we need to "enforce existing laws" and then they start enforcing existing laws we freak out even more.
It's kind of overkill to show up with 3 agents dressed in tactical gear but if something went down 3 guys could get outnumbered quickly.
I think you are exactly correct about the intent of 3-4 of these same content type YT channels using clickbait titles to bump up views. And even though they are presenting themselves as "citizen journalists" they certainly don't hold themselves to any journalistic standards of verifying with multiple sources before they publish their sensationalist content.I am glad to see that most people here are viewing this video critically.
To be honest, I'm getting a little tired of these gun youtube influencers jumping right to sky-is-falling panic and dread. Could it be that they are trying to drum up view counts? Has "social" media become the new "main stream" media? My immediate take on this is that this is not a normal procedure, thus, something else must be afoot here. Something is hidden from us. With that said, all Americans really need to know their rights and the limits placed upon the government by the Constitution.
My lawyer disagrees with you. If it is in fact an actual demand to searchIt's not a search, that requires a warrant.
Now THIS, I can agree with!Again, a request to see your guns is just a request, and not a search. You are free to decline such a request. That's pretty easy....just say "Nope."
LOLBut misleading thread titles get more clicks babeeeee!
Click here for one weird trick to keep ATF from ringing your doorbell.
Yep.The good thing about the video in the OP is that we at least got to see it. We can make our own judgments and seek more info. The MSM nightly news and websites probably will never show it or any thing similar.
Yep again. There are zero reasons to have trust in the ATF as it is currently configured.We as gun owners and citizens of this nation should be watching for governmental misconduct.
No, your lawyer wouldn't disagree with me at all.My lawyer disagrees with you. If it is in fact an actual demand to search
The devil doesn’t have red skin or horns. He comes in the form of a friend, family member, or S.O. With that’s said don’t answer the door. If they want to see your collection they can get a warrant. If one must meet with them do it on your time. Set a meeting. Have an attorney if possible. If not show them what they want and keep your mouth shut. They are not your friend.Working for Les for 21 years, and especially after he got his class III license ( or whatever they call it ) I have come in contact with a lot of ATF people. I never saw one with red skin or horns on their heads. Every single one I interacted with was polite, helpful and friendly.
This is speculative garbage.
The narrator speculates the guy didn’t buy all the guns at once but he does not know that. I don’t want the ATF on my porch either, but creating the existence of some shadow database from this guy’s speculation is irresponsible.
Nonsense.You'd better look at the video again; The Goon Squad CLEARLY had the database in their hands.