best caifornia tactical rifle for under 900$

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This is what my 2010 purchases look like. The "fixed magazine" AR on top is not really "fixed". It's simply a regular AR that takes regular AR magazines but has a resessed mag release button. Not the end of the world. The FAL has a simple shroud that fits over the mag release and is held in place with a single screw. Think of it like a child safety cover. It is removeable for cleaning.
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You could always put a T48 style top cover on your FAL and load via stripper clips.

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The only difference between California legal AR's and AK's and those from more gun friendly states is that I have to use a device to detach the mag. The device is a bullet or a pin which you have to insert into a recessed portion of the mag release. Otherwise the mag release works the same way. In this configuration you can have flash hider, pistol grip, fore grip, adjustable stock as long as you don't exceed 10 rds in the mag. You can go to any gun show and many sporting goods stores and buy FAL's, AK's and AR's or buy the receivers and build your own. There is no reason for anyone to settle for an SKS or Mini in California unless that is their preference.
 
In spite of what many people think, possession of removable magazines that hold more than 10 rounds is not illegal in California. Importing, selling or manufacturing such magazines that hold more than ten rounds is a misdemeanor. If you owned magazines prior to 2000 that hold more than 10 rounds, you're good.

California law prohibits anybody from manufacturing, importing, keeping for sale, offering or exposing for sale, giving, or lending any large capacity magazine. What is “large capacity magazine”? California defines “large capacity magazine” as any feeding device with the capacity to accept more than ten rounds, but does not include any .22 caliber tube ammunition feeding device.

California Penal Code12020-12040 clearly states…

12020. (a) Any person in this state who does any of the following is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year or in the state prison:

(2) Commencing January 1, 2000, manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives, or lends, any large capacity magazine.
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http://www.thegunsource.com/high-capacity-magazines.aspx

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I am pretty sure the only things that you need on an AR for it to be legal in CA are;

Bullet Button

10rd Mag

Can't be on the banned models list.
 
if ya want bang for the buck, try sks w/o the detachable mag (it'll getya jailed)
Mini 14
Mini30
AR 15
 
Unforgiven is correct.

1. Bullet button
2. 10rd mags

Not sure about the banned list but you can buy and DROS a stripped or complete lower via an FFL and build the upper at your leisure. The lower is registered as a long gun or rifle. the "other" parts are just that...parts. All legit and legal according to Kali.

I would however DROS the lower before 2011 JIC.

FWIW, I would rather stay "legal" as I would prefer to stay away from SS bracelets...and Bubba...

It is just for plinking anyway...
 
"The ultimate CA PC-friendly tactical rifle is the Marlin 1894 in .357 Mag with either a low power scope or red-dot installed."

can you use .38spl in a .357mag lever gun?

however for a tactical rifle i say you sould use .223 or .762 not pistol rounds.

will 30-30 pirce level 2 cavlar?
 
instead of worrying about all the excess 30-06 they felt they had to burn up.
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That was the lamest excuse ever. The Garand required M2 ammo (for it's gas system), which was not what was in the stockpile (intended for the 1903). The only possible advantage that really came from staying with the 3006 was that ammo production lines could stay pretty much unchanged (same dimensions).
 
For under $900, one of the best deals on the market is a Saiga .308 carbine. I'm saving up for one now; they go for about $530 in the local shops. In the standard form, it's totally legal, and actually pretty comfortable to shoot if you don't mind the traditional style stocks.
Other recomendations: for .223, Mini 14, SU-16CA, Saiga .223 and various Ar type "CA neutered" versions. In their standard configurations, M14 type rifles are great, but more expensive. M1 Garand and SKS's are also great guns.
Personally, I like having detachable magazines and prefer the traditional style stock, so I'm saving up for a Saiga .308 and eventually an M1A Scout.

Definitely go to Calguns.net too . They have a ton of good information there and a lot of people who are willing to work with you if you're willing to learn. Some might even offer to let you fire their guns if you're close to where they live. They have a good flow chart to help determine if the gun you want is legal. The laws here are pretty complex, so be sure to do your homework before you buy anything.
 
why not the saiga 7.62 times 39 with 16in barrel?

do they still import the saiga 7.62 times 39 rifle?
how much does it cost?
 
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+1 on Calguns.net.

Magazine lock + 10 round limit is popular. But you're crippled to 10 rounds and fumbling for a tool to drop the mag. A finger press won't do it, the mag lock prevents that. No one in CA top-loads anymore. That's so 2005. BTW if you stick a 30-rounder in a fixed-mag AR-15 you've got what they call in California a "Felony Assault Weapon."

For serious competitors (3-gun, etc.) if you don't mind a bit of a different look there are a few so-called 'featureless' rifle configurations that'll let you use finger-detachable high-caps if you legally own them or can legally borrow. You have to lose the evil features as defined in CA penal code. Most of those are easy, swap the flash hider for a brake, pin that evil collapsible stock, remove the grenade launcher, etc. The pistol grip's a challenge since if you remove it you have to find some way to hold the gun. For the AR-15 I'm partial to the Exile Machine Hammerhead grip since I'm the President / CEO of Exile Machine LLC and the inventor of the Hammerhead grip. It's the only featureless product currently in production that'll let you wrap your hand around the gun.

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Actual Customer Photo. Pinned Stock, Fake Can.

When I lived in California I opted for the M1 Garand and M1 Carbine. I also had a Stag-15 with a bullet button. When I escaped California to move back to Texas I decided to offer Californians another option.

I'm probably the only guy in Texas who owns and shoots a California-legal AR-15. :D

-Mark
Exile Machine LLC
 
ulfrik said:
why not the saiga 7.62 times 39 with 16in barrel?

do they still import the saiga 7.62 times 39 rifle?
how much does it cost?
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We can still get them here in CA. But, at least from what I've seen, the .223 and 7.62x39are about the same price as the .308 model, and IMO it isn't worth it for 7.62x39. I'd take an SKS if I wanted a 7.62x39.

+1 on the Hammerhead grip too. I'll definitely be using one of those when I get an AR
 
i like 7.62x39 and .223 they have less recoil ,are more controleible when rapid fired and you can carry more.

when in .308 i would prefer the 22inch barrel saiga.

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how comfortable is the hammerhead grip?is it as ergonamical as a normal ar15 grip? can you hold the hammerhead ar15 as fluently as a normal rifle?
 
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how comfortable is the hammerhead grip?is it as ergonamical as a normal ar15 grip? can you hold the hammerhead ar15 as fluently as a normal rifle?
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It's like holding a wooden rifle. Check out our customer comments page. We also have a handling page that shows it being fired. We sell Hammerhead into the free states as well as the AWB states for guys who want something different or prefer a wooden rifle hold. It's especially comfortable for tall guys in Type I configuration since it opens up the shooting position (less strain on the neck). I'm 6-5 and I keep my rifle w/Hammerhead in Type I configuration even though I'm in Texas and could have the most evil pistol grip imaginable...

-Mark
 
how much would a hammerhead ar15 cost$?


how and where do you get hi capacity mags in california?
 
how much would a hammerhead ar15 cost$?
how and where do you get hi capacity mags in california?
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Hammerhead Grip is less than 25 bucks delivered. The rest of the rifle's up to you, we don't sell any rifles (not an FFL).

Unless you're a FFL with a high cap permit or a LEO, or the proprietor of an armored car company, you can't get high caps in CA. It's against the law to sell, give, lend, import, or manufacture. If you didn't have them before the ban, best you can do is borrow some from a friend at the range. The friend has to stay close by. That kind of lending is OK.

-Mark
 
how much do the new factory 10 round mini14 mags cost$ these days?


10 round mags are california legal.
why did ruger not make factory 10 round mini14 mags back in the old days???



after doing some research, i guess the best california tactical rifles for under 900$ is the saiga 7.62x39 and the mini14 .223
 
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