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Best decock in your opinion.

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by el Godfather, Aug 27, 2012.

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Best decocker-safety system in your opinion?

  1. H&K usp decocker+saftey with one control

    34 vote(s)
    10.6%
  2. Beretta 92 fs slide mounted

    33 vote(s)
    10.3%
  3. Walther P99 AS

    19 vote(s)
    5.9%
  4. Sig Sauer

    173 vote(s)
    53.9%
  5. Other system. Please state.

    61 vote(s)
    19.0%
  6. Other system of your own creation that is not yet implemented. Please explain.

    1 vote(s)
    0.3%
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  1. Fiv3r

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    Decockers give me a case of the fits. I KNOW the gun shouldn't go off, but there is just something about working the action of a slide, watching the cartridge click up and load into the chamber, seeing the hammer lock back for a "killing blow", and then moving a lever to watch the hammer snap down hard. It's unnerving to me.

    I have a P89 that I love to shoot, but I don't carry it because (1, it's a brick) I'm just not a fan of DA/SA pistols due to the DC and I really hate multiple pulls. I feel a lot better with a cock and lock set up like on a 1911 or with a striker fired pistol. I'm sure the DC is every bit as safe as the passive safeties on a striker fired gun, but at least I don't have SEE that hammer fall down:neener:
     
  2. David E

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    In their 3rd Generation series with the 4 digit model numbers, if the 3rd digit is a "7", that denotes a frame mounted decocker. The short lived 10mm FBI issue gun, the 1076, is probably the best known, but there were a few others.
     
  3. JTQ

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    Thanks David for filling in my information gap. The 3rd Generation S&W's are in "my era" and I have a 4506, that I bought new when they came out, but I was unaware of the frame mounted decockers.
     
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  4. el Godfather

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    Never too late to make the saftey device a hammer lowering decice as well.
     
  5. ForumSurfer

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    In my opinion and for me, the CZ 75 decocker only variants suit me best.

    I want to keep it simple for repetition sake. Either give me a thumb safety (1911), no manual safety or decocker only with no safety.

    I like it simple. If it decocks and reverts to a long DA pull then I don't need a separate, manual safety. If it is a decocker only, I want that decocker lever to not have much thumb shelf space and mounted so that my thumb won't accidentally ride it and decock it unintentionally.

    On the CZ PCR I had, I actually removed material from it so that I would have very little chance of accidentally hitting the lever. It made it more difficult to activate, but that's how I prefer it when running it.
     
  6. Fishbed77

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    I like the Walther P99AS decocker.

    It's very elegant in design - just a smooth and snag-free push-button that is easy to operate with your thumb, and pretty much impossible to accidentally manipulate (since I am one of the folks that clings to the idea that a DA/SA pistol must always be pointed in a safe direction to de-cock, despite all the internal safeties).

    Also, (perhaps irrationally, perhaps not) decocking a striker seems safer to me than decocking a hammer. Maybe it's just because I can't see a hammer slamming down. :)
     
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  7. 1KPerDay

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    SIG, no question. Perfectly located, and the inertia of the hammer is absorbed by the your thumb as the decocking lever rises to its starting position.

    H&K/Taurus next, though the thumbs-high position can inadvertently decock the gun.

    Beretta type last. Horrible location IMO.
     
  8. brnmuenchow

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    I love the decocker's on my Sig's.
     
  9. EastKY_DO

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    I'm another fan of the Ruger decockers. It's a shame they don't make 'em anymore. I like the one Sig has but it's not easy to manipulate with the left hand and shooters w/ smaller hands / shorter thumbs cannot decock w/o repositioning their grip.
     
  10. Mosbyranger

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    In my opinion I like the H&K decocking system. I also like the system on my Walther PPK/S.
    MR
     
  11. ATLDave

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    I'm with the "my thumbs" crowd.
     
  12. David E

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    You guys citing H&K decockers need to specify if it's the multi-function frame mounted one, or the push-button one at the rear of the slide left of the hammer.
     
  13. Nuclear

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    HK P7 - all you have to do to de-cock it is to release the pressure on the squeeze cocking mechanism.
     
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    I like the HK rear of slide push button.
     
  15. Sergei Mosin

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    I like the Beretta 92 system because it doubles as a positive safety. Just wish it didn't work in the opposite direction of the safeties on my single-action pistols.
     
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    HK rear slide button is pretty slick.
     
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    I love the decock on my Sig. The Beretta isn't bad either (it's a lot like my Walther) but I think the Sig wins as far as ease of use and comfort goes.
     
  19. el Godfather

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    I like the usp type lever decocker with safty. Not the p2k or p30 type push button.
     
  20. WardenWolf

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    My favorite style of safety / decocker? Pull down to fire, push up to safe / decock. In my opinion push to release safeties are retarded, and it blows my mind that so many are done this way. It's a totally unnatural and difficult motion to make, whereas pulling down with your thumb is quite easy.
     
  21. JustinJ

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    I like the HKP2000 decocker. It is an individual tab at the back of the slide. The P2000, however has no safety which kind of sucks as the option of carrying cocked is not available.
     
  22. CZ57

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    CZ. When you decock, the hammer goes to half-cock making the first DA shot a very short stroke of the trigger.;)
     
  23. *NOVA*

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    "CZ. When you decock, the hammer goes to half-cock making the first DA shot a very short stroke of the trigger."

    Exactly! The CZ75 BD will be my next gun purchase and will be my EDC. Condition 1 and safe.
     
  24. Fishslayer

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    There is a 4576. The one I saw is 4566 size with the frame mounted decocker. According to the post I saw they made just less than 1400 of 'em.

    I have a 4536 with 3.5" barrel & frame mounted decocker. I've been told they made about 600 of these. I paid a stupid amount of $$$ for it.:uhoh:

    No idea why S&W didn't pursue these more. It seems like a really good system and SIG's popularity would indicate that people would buy 'em.
     
  25. Deaf Smith

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    Makrov decocker.

    Why?

    Cause to fire you just flip the decocker DOWN, like a 1911, and flip it UP to drop the hammer (like putting a 1911's safety on.)

    Deaf
     
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