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Best decock in your opinion.

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by el Godfather, Aug 27, 2012.

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Best decocker-safety system in your opinion?

  1. H&K usp decocker+saftey with one control

    34 vote(s)
    10.6%
  2. Beretta 92 fs slide mounted

    33 vote(s)
    10.3%
  3. Walther P99 AS

    19 vote(s)
    5.9%
  4. Sig Sauer

    173 vote(s)
    53.9%
  5. Other system. Please state.

    61 vote(s)
    19.0%
  6. Other system of your own creation that is not yet implemented. Please explain.

    1 vote(s)
    0.3%
  1. 9mmforMe

    9mmforMe Member

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    Ruger P95PR15 Decocker...like the single action needed and how it returns to normal position after decocked.
     
  2. Keeterbird

    Keeterbird Member

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    I love the CZ75 BD. Also have a P95 Ruger with decocker and am very comfortable. Have several CZ52 and that is really a bad, bad setup.
     
  3. Kymasabe

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    Sigs is pretty nice but my favorite is the one on my S&W Chiefs Special 9mm CS9. Safety and decocker in one lever, left side of the slide only (non-ambi).
     
  4. MTMilitiaman

    MTMilitiaman Senior Member

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    I am a cocked and locked kinda guy. I don't own one yet but I've been handling a bunch of CZs and I like their system, especially their new Omega system whereby the user can choose between DA/SA with a safety, or DA/SA with a decocker. This system doesn't put it all in one control--if you run a safety you can carry cocked and locked but have no decocker--but that's okay because CZ rightly assumes that if you are interested in cocked and locked carry, you don't really give a rat's wet fart about a decocker.

    IMO, SAO is best. A decent DAO trigger or similar is okay. I don't mind the trigger on my Glocks. If it is going to be a DA/SA, it has to be capable of being carried cocked and locked for me to even consider. I'll never understand you guys with your decockers. It's like people who wear their pants half way down their behind...some fads I will just never understand. I wear my pants on my waste with a belt, and I think two different trigger pulls on the same firearm is B.S, and it's bad for you.
     
  5. Walt Sherrill

    Walt Sherrill Senior Member

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    Seems as though any gun with decocker that ALSO has a firing pin block -- and most newer guns do -- is equally safe. (And if safety isn't the issue, what IS the issue?)

    I find that MOST of the ones that serve as a safety AND decocker can cause problems -- not in function but, under pressure/stress, in the mind of the user.

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    Last edited: Dec 15, 2012
  6. WC145

    WC145 Senior Member

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    I haven't read through all the posts but, IMO, the best system out there is the one on my FNP45 Tactical - it works as a safety and a decocker, I can carry the gun hammer down (DA/SA) safety on or off or cocked and locked, plus I can rack the slide with the safety on. It's the best of all worlds.
     
  7. jon_in_wv

    jon_in_wv Senior Member

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    So you think a Glock is ok in spite of the fact it doesn't have a SAO trigger? Well it just so happens there are many other fine weapons that just so happen to have a DA/SA trigger with a decocker. I think my M&P9C is a great pistol and I love the trigger but by 3913 is slimmer, easier to carry, and shoots great. You honestly think it makes more sense to just ignore that because it doesn't have a SAO trigger? The DA/SA trigger is only a small thing to master and there are a ton of really great pistols that have them. If you are too close minded to appreciate them it doesn't mean the rest of us are just punks with our pants down around our butts. The CZ, Berettas, S&W 3rd Gens, Sigs, etc....have endured for a lot of years I wouldn't call them a fad that only mature people like yourself have outgrown.
     
  8. jon_in_wv

    jon_in_wv Senior Member

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    Did anyone mention the decocker on the H&K P7? A SAO with a decocker. If nothing else, its innovative.
     
  9. 777TRUTH

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    For striker fired Walther.

    There are many for hammer fired but I am partial to CZ.
     
  10. SageMonkey

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    another vote for the CZ
     
  11. ForumSurfer

    ForumSurfer Senior Member

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    I changed my opinion after running 500 rounds through a CPO Sig p226. I like that decocker much better than the CZ I had. The new short reset trigger is also one of the best out of the box triggers I've ran.


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  12. meanmrmustard

    meanmrmustard Senior Member

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    Count me in.
     
  13. gp911

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    Mexican carry + accidental discharge = decocker

    Thanks, I'll be here all week.
     
  14. FIVETWOSEVEN

    FIVETWOSEVEN Senior Member

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    CZ75B, your thumb is the decocker. :D
     
  15. meanmrmustard

    meanmrmustard Senior Member

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    Priceless.
     
  16. U-235

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    I like the de-cocker on my P-226. It is out of the way, easy to manipulated and it only does one thing. I don't like the combined safety/de-cocker on my PPK.
     
  17. Robbins290

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    Agree u-235
     
  18. 45crittergitter

    45crittergitter Senior Member

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    I'm not familiar with many specific makers' systems, but I have a Taurus that I like that is striker fired, can be carried cocked and locked, cocked and unlocked (don't do that), uncocked and locked, or uncocked and unlocked. When fired, it remains cocked. The safety lever on the left side of the frame, goes down for fire, up for safe, and farther up to decock. Pretty much covers all the options.
     
  19. *NOVA*

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    My CZ75 Police finally arrived at my LGS (shipped from Bud's) two weeks ago and my son and I took it to the range last weekend. Sweet shooting piece, I gotta say! I added the OEM's rubber grip pads, but nothing else. Shot Winchester white box ammo and was getting some tight groups.

    Anyway, the BD Police is a full size pistol but not too big for me as my Concealed Carry, OWB, under a jacket, condition 1, decocked.

    And I really like the decocker. It has a firm solid mechanical feel to it as you engage it to lower the hammer in a smooth controlled movement.

    Once the decoker has done its job, the trigger weight in double action is no big deal for me. I figure it will not be noticed in a real self defense scenario.

    Very pleased with this gun. Looks good and shoots great!
     
  20. hak

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    "My own thumb. I trust myself more than any mechanical gizmo. Even when I handle a pistol with a decock lever, I still get control of the hammer before I use it."

    they're not mutually exclusive. i lower using my usp or p30s decocker while also easing it down - the key in using a decocker is your finger is never on the trigger.


    OP, i chose 'other' - the p30s one at the back i like more than my usp one, since it's ambi. i've never decocked my usp by accident, and the downward sweep I like. having it at the rear is nice too.
     
  21. el Godfather

    el Godfather Senior Member

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    Hak... interesting thought- I have seen a couple of times guys de-cocking USP by accident upon firing.

    NOVO... Decocking to half cock in CZ is unique in itself.
     
  22. psyopspec

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    I voted "Other" for the best one being the non-existent. However, if I had to have a DA/SA, I've never had an unsafe experience from using the decocker on an HK, SIG, or Beretta. All work well for their intended (yet unnecessary) purpose.
     
  23. tjd78z

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    Voted other, I like my FNH FNX 40.
     
  24. TennJed

    TennJed Senior Member

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    I am in the minority, but I like the slide mounted. Some really nice guns were made with it. 3rd gen S&Ws, Makarov, Beretta 92, 84,87, storm, desert eagle line, Ruger P series
     
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  25. el Godfather

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    TennJed any particular advantage you see in slide mounted?
     

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