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Best decock in your opinion.

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by el Godfather, Aug 27, 2012.

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Best decocker-safety system in your opinion?

  1. H&K usp decocker+saftey with one control

    34 vote(s)
    10.6%
  2. Beretta 92 fs slide mounted

    33 vote(s)
    10.3%
  3. Walther P99 AS

    19 vote(s)
    5.9%
  4. Sig Sauer

    173 vote(s)
    53.9%
  5. Other system. Please state.

    61 vote(s)
    19.0%
  6. Other system of your own creation that is not yet implemented. Please explain.

    1 vote(s)
    0.3%
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  1. 9mmforMe

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    Ruger P95, ambidextrous, easy to manipulate. They did away with the decock only model which is a shame in my opinion, now its a decock into safe position.
     
  2. Okiegunner

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    el Godfather,

    Man you do like some polls!!

    I own both a Sig 2340 (decocker only, no safety) and a Beretta 92 series platform.

    As for this particular poll, I personally lean towards the Beretta.

    Reason: On most (not 92G) 92s the decocker also acts as a defacto safety. To the best of my knowledge, not so with the Sigs. At least not with the 2340, 2309, or the 2022 poly pistols.
     
  3. el Godfather

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    What about H&K decock that has option to turn into safety or just decock? I like the safety option but not default upon decock.
     
  4. TAKtical

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    My finger is the only decocker ive ever needed
     
  5. iblong

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    Im in the CZ decocker only camp.pcr,P-01 ect.
     
  6. el Godfather

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    so many sig votes
    beginning to wonder
     
  7. Deaf Smith

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    Best De-cocker..

    My thumb. All you have to do is thumb back the hammer just a bit, pull the trigger, lower the hammer just a bit more, and then let go of the trigger (remember, trigger NOT hammer) and then lower the hammer all the way.

    Worked fine for me over 40 years.

    Deaf
     
  8. allaroundhunter

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    People like either a TDA gun, or a SAO gun. Trying to fit both into one package does not appeal to most.

    What is there to wonder about?

    Sent from my HTC One X
     
  9. savanahsdad

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    KJB Russian Makarvo 9X18, I guess that would fall under OTHER :neener:
     
  10. guyfromohio

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    Love that Sig decock. I like it so much that I fund myself trying to decock all of my guns.
     
  11. murf

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    tuner1911 got it right. my thumb.

    murf
     
  12. el Godfather

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    ...that the number of people who have experience with H&K pistols.
     
  13. HKGuns

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    I've used both Sig and HK.

    I guess all of the Sig voters have never used the HK de-cocker that is far more ergonomic than the long travel Sig de-cocker. While the Sig is a decent example, the travel required to de-cock is far longer than that of the HK which makes it slower. Also, the Sig de-cocker is far easier to miss with your thumb while the HK is not.
     
  14. 2wheels

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    Interesting, rationalizing the results of the poll by assuming most people who like Sigs have never fired an HK... Maybe many people don't want/need safeties on DA/SA guns? Maybe while some people like the ability to carry their HK cocked and locked, the vast majority of potential buyers could care less about that option? But who knows? Guess someone could start a poll to find out.

    I've used the HK decocker, though I haven't put nearly as many rounds through HKs as I have Sigs.

    My experience is that the Sig decocker is out of the way when I don't need it (firing, reloading, etc.) and easy to access when I do need it (reholstering). It's everything you need and nothing you don't in a DA/SA gun. Never missed it with my thumb and if you're a fraction of a second faster decocking your HK... Good for you...

    As for the HK decocker/safety, aside from the fact that it does something I don't need it to do (function as a safety and allowed cocked+locked carry)... It has nothing over the Sig setup.
     
  15. 5-SHOTS

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    For me the best decockers are the ones on Walther P99 AS, HK P2000 and P30 V3 and CZ 75D because they are in smart and unobstrusive positions. I'm not a fan of decockers that works also as a safety like Beretta 92FS or similar. For me after decocking the gun has to be ready to fire without any further action.
     
  16. oneounceload

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    Either the Walther PP or the HK P7 get my nod for best decocker/safety (yes the P7 is a striker-fired, but it is unique)
     
  17. GBExpat

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    I have never been able get myself to trust a mechanical decocker ... I always have to ease the hammer down with my thumb.
     
  18. rule303

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    To me, it is the one thing that Taurus got absolutely right. The PT92/99/100/101 has the safety/decocker in the perfect location, and seems intuitive to most shooters. Sig runs a close second, but the reach to the decock lever is a stretch, and the travel is a bit long.
     
  19. David E

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    The Taurus and HKs decock in mid string if you're used to a high thumb grip. :eek:
     
  20. jon_in_wv

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    I vote for the decker/safety on the Taurus 92. It allows you to place the pistol on safe or fully decock and place on safe. Its also ambidextrous which is why I place it above the Sigs which is also good but also lacks the option of a safety.
     
  21. Fastcast

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    Beretta 84FS....Not at all like 92FS that so many dislike.

    84FS is frame mounted, ambidextrous, perfect ergos, swipe up for partial decock/safe, swipe down to fire......If the 92FS had the same setup I'd own one.
     
  22. nightal

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    Since I own several Ruger pistols, I like them, because that's what I am used to.
     
  23. wally

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    I think the best DA/SA decocking system was on the Beretta 9000S -- up for cocked and locked "safe" then up past safe to decock. Eliminates the USP potential problem of decocking when taking it off safe carrying cocked and locked.

    I believe the system on the USP was first on the Taurus PT92, I know I have one from the late 80's with it. Like on the USP, the weakness is if you are carrying cocked and locked you can decock under recoil if you let your thumb ride the safety as 1911 shooters often tend to do.

    But overall I'm of the opinion already stated than no decocker is best -- I just can't stand the DA/SA transition.
     
  24. jon_in_wv

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    It certainly take a little more practice to master the DA/SA transition but trigger control and sight picture are important with any weapon. If you have good techniques the DA pistol with a decocker and safety has its merits. SAO and striker fired weapons are more forgiving of poor technique or trigger control but DA is also quite easy to master while allowing a little more security and safety (debatable I know). Recently I've been gravitating from my M&P 9C to a S&W 3913 as my EDC. The 3913 is a superb carry gun regardless of its trigger system. If a good trigger is the only factor to determine what is best then we can all stop at the 1911 and forget the rest. But in reality any weapon is a total system and the trigger is just on part of that system. There are many superb pistols with DA/SA triggers and decockers that you would really be shorting yourself by not giving them a chance. Of those systems, which is really the topic at hand, I like the ergonomics and function of the Taurus best. Its not perfect, as some have stated, but its in a great position and easier to use than the slide mounted safeties, its intuitive, and versatile since you can use the safety and decocker separately. I used to like the decocker of the Sigs but they are a little bulky, its not very handy left handed, and without the safety function it loses a lot of its utility to me.
     
  25. golden

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    I have used most of the systems listed and think the SIG system is the best. I really like to shoot the WALTHER P99, but I do not normally use the decocker button.

    With the SIG pistols, I feel the hammer dropper is the most natural for me.

    Jim
     
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