Blackwater, local sheriff, machine guns, and the law

[freakshow10mm]

Change hardly occurs unless the limits are pushed.

 

[ctdonath]

Making up law? or understanding it much better than the rest of us, and using that knowledge to their advantage?

Strictly speaking, 922(o) does not completely prohibit private possession of post-'86 MGs - so long as you can get a gov't agency to sign off the paperwork. With the NFA registry being considered confidential tax info, we can't peek at what's going on in there (or can we ... could a FOIA request for the contents, personal identifying info redacted, be viable?); methinks some entries would startle people regarding which & how strings got pulled.

Having spent much time examining the nuances of our favorite laws, I find there's a lot more wiggle room in there than people think there is.

Most people have no idea what the law actually says, and oddly have no respect for those who do.

 

[W.E.G.]

Very few corporations, Blackwater or otherwise, run their business like a girl scout troop.

 

[MD_Willington]

Not the best choice?

The AK-47 would be a poor choice of weapon for a SWAT team, said John Gnagey, executive director of the National Tactical Officers Association, the national organization of SWAT officers.

As a combat weapon, the AK-47 is too large and powerful for SWAT teams, Gnagey said. It is rugged but relatively inaccurate.

"And there's the perception problem," Gnagey said. "Every terrorist attacking the U.S. is armed with AK-47s. "

Most SWAT teams use the H&K MP5 submachine gun or the Bushmaster M4, he said.

The Russian SWAT like OMON teams uses an AK variant. It is the Vityaz aka "Knight". It is based on the "Krinkov" and chambered for 9x19mm

Max has it on his website:

http://world.guns.ru/smg/smg97-e.htm

Cheaper than an MP5 I bet!

 

[brighamr]

"Last year two former Blackwater employees pleaded guilty to federal firearms violations. They were sentenced to probation on the condition that they assist federal investigators."


So, if I work for a govt contractor and break a law, I get probation.

If I'm a mere civilian, the same broken law would make me a felon, cost $200,000 in court fees and fines, and I'd be lucky to be out of prison in 10 years.




And, doesn't it strike anyone as odd that the recent bill posted in legal specifically states "allows transfer of MGs to government contractors". This country continues to fall...

 

[ctdonath]

doesn't it strike anyone as odd

What, you're under the impression that it doesn't strike anyone as odd?

 

[wheelgunslinger]

CTDonath eloquently related:

Making up law? or understanding it much better than the rest of us, and using that knowledge to their advantage?

Strictly speaking, 922(o) does not completely prohibit private possession of post-'86 MGs - so long as you can get a gov't agency to sign off the paperwork. With the NFA registry being considered confidential tax info, we can't peek at what's going on in there (or can we ... could a FOIA request for the contents, personal identifying info redacted, be viable?); methinks some entries would startle people regarding which & how strings got pulled.

Having spent much time examining the nuances of our favorite laws, I find there's a lot more wiggle room in there than people think there is.

Most people have no idea what the law actually says, and oddly have no respect for those who do.

Brilliant conclusions CT. Especially the last statement.

 

[Thin Black Line]

I have a feeling that Bodman has more control over Wackenhut than Condi
has over Blackwater.

 

[freakshow10mm]

(1) Except as provided in paragraph (2), it shall be unlawful for any person to transfer or possess a machinegun.
(2) This subsection does not apply with respect to—
(A) a transfer to or by, or possession by or under the authority of, the United States or any department or agency thereof or a State, or a department, agency, or political subdivision thereof; or
(B) any lawful transfer or lawful possession of a machinegun that was lawfully possessed before the date this subsection takes effect.

That's the key. It is legal for a person to own a machine gun (any machine gun) if the State (or city/town/village/county) or agency/department of the same transfers it to you or you possess it under the authority of said agency/department (which allows LE to possess post 86 MGs).

Say a police department doesn't want their MP5s anymore. They can transfer it to you and it doesn't matter if it's a post 86 MG or not; it complies with 922 (o).

 

[MarcusWendt]

Most people have no idea what the law actually says, and oddly have no respect for those who do.

I have no respect for ANY American company that would use Sharia law to avoid taking responsibility for their own actions of the lack there of. Knowing the law is one thing, twisting it and abusing it is another.

 

[ctdonath]

When you're facing jail time (or worse), you'll likely use any means to stay out - especially if you believe you didn't do anything wrong.

Anyway, that (the Sharia connection) is a red herring to this discussion. Shall that be relocated to APS, while we continue discussing the MG issue here?